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Author Topic: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?  (Read 1028 times)

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Hi,

Planning to make a modern cocktail with a lift up screen/top that will stay at an angle. Had been thinking of just a piano hinge with a stay to prop it up.

However realise of like to be able to slide the bottom of the screen backwards when propped up e.g like it's on a runner. The end result would be a screen that can be propped from horizontal to about 60 degrees and then slid back away from the viewer so it sits further away...

I'm sure there is a sliding hinge or similar that might do this, or even a runner system that could be used with a gas strut but not sure of best approach?

Suggestions welcome...
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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2020, 02:52:16 pm »
They say a picture speaks 1000 words... Found this mock up on a old thread here where someone made an animated version of what I 2as trying to describe in terms of 'sliding back' here:

https://youtu.be/_mcAnIhx8FY


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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2020, 05:48:57 am »
Cocktails are technically an inherently poor design, Once you start swinging that monitor around after service, and put it back where it belongs, there is always a big green blob that needs to be defused, But if you got to move the monitor again, it starts all over...Best of all worlds I would think, would be leave the monitor in position, but remove the two sides not relevant for support.

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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2020, 08:49:11 am »
Yes I have come to a similar conclusion about optimum design - but my reality is the only cab I can build and use in my house is one that doubles as table.... So cocktail it is.

I am reluctantly probably going to opt for an LCD over a CRT, mainly to enable the lifting to be easier and avoid deguassing requirements etc. (I'm aware of the trade off here - I also own an XM29 for use in a future life/house)


I'm considering a (properly 1:1) square monitor to essentially open up all control panels for specific controls instead of horizontal Vs vertical, but that may not work size wise.

One thing I've decided on is I need to be able to raise it - I can't do the neck angle of cocktails easily.

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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2020, 11:44:02 am »
I was not trying to poo cocktails, Its just my observation, and working on them of them, over the years...The flat screen (Imo) Is a good choice...Ond is building a really cool little pac man, with modern lines you should check out.

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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2020, 11:48:13 am »
Thanks I'll check it out - based on other projects I suspect OND's workmanship is a cut above anything I can currently produce....

In the meantime, if anyone has any insight into the type/name of hinge that would allow the lift and slide motion I would be grateful ...

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Re: Cocktail lid/screen lift query - Piano hinge on runners? Sliding hinge?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2020, 12:17:10 pm »
Well it could be done with hydraulic hood hinges off a car, on a carriage that rolls on tracks like a jukebox, But simple is better, and far less problematic, Basically just unlatch the top from the inside, and simply remove it...monitor and all.

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Having a CRT that moves frequently is probably a poor idea, so if you want to be able to do a Transformers design like this I would definitely stick to an LCD. Even candy cabs with easy-to-rotate CRT monitors would not be very fun to have to adjust all the time if you tilted the monitor around almost every time you wanted to play.

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Yes absolutely - Iím going for LCD so I can raise it and have a reasonable size. Iíve got a quality 27Ē CRT stashed away for when I get room/space/time/life to build something bigger and upright.

Iíve got a cocktail kit frame mostly built - much smaller than I realised. Trackballs etc unlikely to squeeze on so probably keep it simple with joystick and spinner.

Itís not designed to angle up so will figure out best approach...