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Zebra:
If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question. I wouldn't have said anything about it if you hadn't asked specifically. We weren't even talking about your project. This thread is to demo the use of Sega or Namco arcade IR guns on a Windows PC. It's a point of interest for other light gun fanatics looking for something of arcade quality to play arcade shooters on an HD TV. Obviously comparison with existing home IR guns is part of that. Talking about your diy project (which I have never seen) is not. You have a thread for that. There is no point of trying to convince me that camera based IR guns don't suck. I've been disappointed too many times. The only way would be to get it into the hands of some independent testers outside the echo chamber. People with similarly high standards (I.e. not guys who play with crosshairs on-screen and think their Aimtrak is arcade quality). People who run real arcade hardware. If you did that, I'd suggest being less sensitive if you want meaningful feedback. You can't expect people to change (or sensor) opinions that are based on real world experiences just because you say "this time's different". There are at least 8 camera based guns on the market and they all disappointed after making bold claims. |
BadMouth:
Opinions differ, but please don't discourage each other or allow yourselves to be discouraged. Light gun progress has been jack ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for the past decade accept for the support programs. We finally have a light gun forum and some people testing new ideas. I'd hate to lose our window into the progress and testing because someone pissed someone else off. |
JayBee:
@Zebra You were just being openly dismissive about people still working on IR cam based solutions, so of course yeah I reacted, the same way you always react when someone tells you those "arcade quality" solutions are expensive and also have tons of issues. And don't tell me not to talk about or criticize something in other places than my thread, you've been doing the exact same thing before :lol I don't mind different opinions, that's the opposite I think it's important to have different point of view to improve each solution. However the thing I don't agree with the "leet" way of seeing it, that everyone without your arbitrary "high standard" are just people playing with crosshair and who love the aimtrak toys (which I don't like either). And that playing with real arcade is the only way of the "true" experts. I don't care about you not liking our work, and you have the right to say you don't like it. Just don't be hateful and dismissive like that with the people using it and working on it. You can hate the technologies, don't spit on people who try to make those tech better. --- Quote from: BadMouth on January 25, 2020, 06:35:26 pm ---Opinions differ, but please don't discourage each other or allow yourselves to be discouraged. Light gun progress has been jack ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for the past decade accept for the support programs. We finally have a light gun forum and some people testing new ideas. I'd hate to lose our window into the progress and testing because someone pissed someone else off. --- End quote --- Don't worry, if I had to be discouraged by anyone I never would have released my 4 leds solution, or I would have kept it for myself, which is what many people probably did already. I'm not doing it for love or gratitude, it's just about providing people with good alternatives to commercial consumer products. |
Zebra:
It seems like you do mind different opinions which explains this little tantrum. Nobody here was talking about your project. We were talking about the existing home gun products that we've seen. People aren't going to stop expressing opinions to stop you getting a sore tushy. Now, please stop derailing the thread. It has nothing to do with your project. Not everything is about you. |
JayBee:
--- Quote from: Zebra on January 28, 2020, 12:19:27 pm ---It seems like you do mind different opinions which explains this little tantrum. Nobody here was talking about your project. We were talking about the existing home gun products that we've seen. People aren't going to stop expressing opinions to stop you getting a sore tushy. Now, please stop derailing the thread. It has nothing to do with your project. Not everything is about you. --- End quote --- Fun how you accuse me of the same behavior you've had all the freaking time in other people posts. Again it's not about your opinion on projects, it's about your hateful judgement about people that don't have the same point of view as you. You've been bitching around in many posts about people using and creating IR solutions, not only about the solutions themselves. Even if I wasn't saying anything at first it got old fast. Just create a better DIY or commercial solution for us if you're not happy instead of complaining everywhere how we are incapable of making true arcade tech, and then we will talk. For the record, I was at first trying to understand your tech to see if I could do a similar tech on a DIY project, but then out of nowhere you started your rant about IR solutions and how people are unable to do a solution you would like them to do because of it. That's clearly not how you will push people to help you on that. But I don't care, you do you, and I will keep doing my stuff for people who care anyway. |
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