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| Zebra:
Check out my new project to use a Sega (type 2) arcade IR gun with a Windows PC for mame. I'm using a HOD4 arcade gun in the video at just 3 feet from the screen: I used 10 led boards around the screen for this test. There is a switch on the I/O board for 10 or 12 so I'll try both and report if it makes any difference. My first impression is that it works really well. There is very little lag. It's accurate even at 3 feet from the screen with no loss of tracking. Accuracy is infinitely adjustable via X Y pots on the BD gun sense board to make crosshairs line up with Iron sights. I was able to play Time Crisis without visible crosshairs on-screen (after a some messing around with pots for calibration). These Sega arcade IR guns output like an analog joystick so connecting it to a PC was very easy with a Uhid nano from Ultimarc. They are awesome devices. I have plans to put a 128mb ram modded Xbox in my cab to use these guns with Chihiro games like Ghost Squad, Virtua Cop 3 and the arcade version of HOD3. More to come. |
| BadMouth:
I'd like to see some gameplay from a standard point and shoot game instead of a mounted gun game where you spray bullets. Looks good though, and 3ft is about right for playing on a cab IMO. Good work! |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on December 21, 2019, 06:48:47 pm ---I'd like to see some gameplay from a standard point and shoot game instead of a mounted gun game where you spray bullets. Looks good though, and 3ft is about right for playing on a cab IMO. Good work! --- End quote --- Great minds think alike (and fools never differ). I'm working on a Time Crisis video with no crosshairs on screen now. The one I shot yesterday of TC1 didn't come out right as the gun covered it's view due to my attempt to film from behind it to show it's accuracy... It's academic for me as I have the USB2Gun with real arcade light guns to play games like TC1. I got the Sega guns for arcades that used their IR gun tech like Hod 3 and 4. I'm not expecting accuracy to match the best real light guns (on light gun games) but I think it can get close with a little time spent on calibration. The info is for others as I'm sure some will want to know if it's a viable option to play light gun games on HD flat screens. The key advantages for me of owning a Type 2 gun set-up instead of an Aimtrak or Wii remote is being able to play at arcade-like distances, precision calibration controls, line of sight accuracy on arcade games that used IR guns and absolute positioning (thanks to it's defined screen edge). And, just as important, this set-up can also be used for real arcade PCBs like all Sega gun games from HOD2 to present day, Time Crisis 4 and 5 as well as all the recent Taito light gun games. I'll post the new Time Crisis video shortly. |
| Howard_Casto:
I tried to search on ebay but came up empty. Do we have a part number or something I can search for? The just led boards (the only things that came up in a search) are around $100 online, but if the circuit is simple enough it might be possible to get some boards made and roll our own. |
| Zebra:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 21, 2019, 07:20:08 pm ---I tried to search on ebay but came up empty. Do we have a part number or something I can search for? The just led boards (the only things that came up in a search) are around $100 online, but if the circuit is simple enough it might be possible to get some boards made and roll our own. --- End quote --- I recommend reading TwistedSymphony's awesome 4 part write up on Sega type 2 gun set ups. It will answer most your questions: http://solid-orange.com/1611 It's an excellent piece of work and even I was able to follow it. On ebay, I found it most productive to search for parts on a game by game basis as there is no consistency in sellers part names. E.g. Try searching for "ghost squad arcade sensors" or "House of the dead 2 arcade led boards" etc. A lot of sellers are parting out cabs so check their other items on ebay if you find one selling one of the parts you need. It's not an economical option in time or money . Expect to pay around $500 for a working set of all the parts you need. I don't think diy is an option for the LED boards. The circuits look too complicated for that. Given their outrageous price new, you'd think there'd be some Chinese knock-offs by now but I couldn't find any working alternatives. You'll make a lot of people happy if you figure it out. |
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