Where do I get "THESE" buttons ?

[SNAAAKE]

 

Anyone ?
What are they called ?

[mahuti]

http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/954002xxxxz.htm

Happ Controls Jumbo Round With Locking Lampholder

[kevin]

They sort of look like Happ jumbo dome illuminated pushbuttons. They're available in the same colors as the picture.





I'm assuming you're looking to build a pop'n'music controller? I've seen others use the flat wico buttons instead of the Happ domes, because they cost significantly less. Not sure how they feel compared to the domed ones, as I haven't had a chance to play pop'n'music yet.

Edit: Looks like I was beaten.

-Kevin

[mahuti]

when looking at the HTMl source for that page, I took a look at the .js file that makes the framless page reload the page with frames.... came across this

"// added 11-14-2k1 by GSM: added a delay cause people were crying about it, customers that is"

Just thought that this touch of humanity left in by a programmer is funny. Usually code is so clinical and stale. It's really shocking when I see any kind of human messages in it.

[SNAAAKE]

26$ a button seems...a lot
Any other place that might be selling these ?
Anyone ?

[RandyT]

26$ a button seems...a lot
Any other place that might be selling these ?
Anyone ?

I don't know who else would be selling these, but these things are HUGE!  Are you sure these are what you are looking for?

I used one for a really weird CP (non arcade related) and couldn't imagine using them for anything other than a "whack a mole" or hand operated "dance" controller.  

Anyway, they are expensive because of their size, the fact that they light up, and most likely the durability engineered into them considering their intended uses.

So what are you thinking of using them for?

RandyT

[Sephroth57]

ive been looking into these too as im builing my own Pop N Music controller. the actual buttons they use are from Coinopexpress.com, but they only sell them 80 of 1 color minimum, and at that bulk only cost 4$ each!  the cheapest place to buy the induvidually is from Betson.com. theyre like 17$ each there and same as the happs one. theyre actually better then the ones on the ransai controller cause theirs dont light up when you hit em.

[Industen]

The ransai controller button don't illuminate when you hit them? You have to ask for the LED mod if you want that option. What I mean to say is that Betson, Coinopexpress, and Happs all have the illumination feature. To bad we couldn't order 20 of each of the 4 colors to equal the 80 min. Then we could all chip in. 320 buttons to have all 4 colors is a bit much. Then again you could buy all white buttons and purchase different colored LED's. Somehow I think it wouldn't look the same though.

[Goz]

These look like they may be close to what you are looking for:

http://www.centsibleamusements.com/product.asp?0=217&1=225&3=101

2" diamet lighted $5.95 ea comes in RED, YELLOW, GREEN

Hope this helps,

[Sephroth57]

yeah ive seen those but the real arcade buttons are 3.8inches. same as the happs/betson ones. pretty much if you want a nice Pop N Music panel you gotta dish out for the premium buttons. you could get wico flat buttons for 4$ each but if im gonna do it im gonna do it right

[chrisindfw]

I am looking for the same thing. I am making a "You Dont Know Jack" Control panel and need big buttons. I was tempted to add a microswitch to a taplight.

[RandyT]

I am looking for the same thing. I am making a "You Dont Know Jack" Control panel and need big buttons. I was tempted to add a microswitch to a taplight.

Now THAT'S a great idea.  Those things can be had for a buck each and you might even be able to use the switching mech already inside, as long as you can defeat the latching.  Probably a molded mechanism that just needs a pin broken off to become a "momentary" switch.

I have a couple around that will get dissected this evening and I'l report back if no-one else beats me to it .

RandyT

[chrisindfw]

Now if only they had taplights in different colors.

[Stingray]

Couldn't you just put colored bulbs in them? Maybe paint the inside of the lens? Where there's a will there's a way. I agree, great idea.

-S

[RandyT]

Now if only they had taplights in different colors.

Depending on the material the dome is made out of, surface dying the plastic with RIT dye might be a viable option.

RandyT

[crashwg]

are they comperable in size to the arcade buttons?

[chrisindfw]

are they comperable in size to the arcade buttons?

The taplight is bigger than the ones on Happs. I do not know the size of the arcade buttons.

[RandyT]

are they comperable in size to the arcade buttons?

The taplight is bigger than the ones on Happs. I do not know the size of the arcade buttons.

There are "mini" ones out there as well.   IIRC, they seemed pretty close to that size.

I'll have to keep my eyes open for them.....

RandyT

[unclet]

When my son was a baby and we had to change him in the middle of the night, we had a plastic domed light which you could simply push on the big domed side and it lit up.   It was like a nightlight.  It looked similiar to what you want.  Think you get them at Target or Walmart or some place similiar.   I gurantee they were not $26 each.    Maybe you could use something like this.    I forget the name of course, so maybe none of this really helps you.

[Jakobud]

When my son was a baby and we had to change him in the middle of the night, we had a plastic domed light which you could simply push on the big domed side and it lit up.   It was like a nightlight.  It looked similiar to what you want.  Think you get them at Target or Walmart or some place similiar.   I gurantee they were not $26 each.    Maybe you could use something like this.    I forget the name of course, so maybe none of this really helps you.

Those are the taplights.

[SNAAAKE]

Anybody actually build a popnmusic panel ?
Any links ?
I am trying to build one but...

ive been looking into these too as im builing my own Pop N Music controller. the actual buttons they use are from Coinopexpress.com, but they only sell them 80 of 1 color minimum, and at that bulk only cost 4$ each!  the cheapest place to buy the induvidually is from Betson.com. theyre like 17$ each there and same as the happs one. theyre actually better then the ones on the ransai controller cause theirs dont light up when you hit em.

How do you know he gets em from coinexpress ?
That ransai dude told me he imports em from hong kong.
You have the link to beton cone style buttons ?
(their site is confusing,cant find)  

[Sasquatch!]

when looking at the HTMl source for that page, I took a look at the .js file that makes the framless page reload the page with frames.... came across this

"// added 11-14-2k1 by GSM: added a delay cause people were crying about it, customers that is"

Just thought that this touch of humanity left in by a programmer is funny. Usually code is so clinical and stale. It's really shocking when I see any kind of human messages in it.

Hahaha.  I think most programmers/webmasters still have a "touch of humanity" when it comes to berating their end users at least.

[RandyT]

I have a couple around that will get dissected this evening and I'l report back if no-one else beats me to it .

Is it bad luck to quote yourself?

Ok, since I didn't see anyone say they did it yet, I pulled one of these apart.  It wasn't easy considering all the protesting that was going on.  I didn't pay alot of attention to it, so I only managed to pick out a few words....emergency, power outage, etc....too many "what ifs" for my tastes.

So, the first thing I did was test out the action.  Seemed pretty good.  Easy to turn on and off.  Pretty reliable actuation (which actually didn't bode well for an easy mod.)  Time to go inside for a look....

I pulled the four tiny philips screws and the thing falls apart in my hands.  Ok, I pick up the pieces and try to forget about the need to put the light shaped puzzle back together at the end of this.

Now I look for the switch.  Nuts!  Its a real switch.  No simple springy pieces of copper or ingenious, easily defeated,  molded latching mechanisms.  Just a nice little quality push-on/push-off switch.

But wait!  I can see a seam!  So I wrecklessly jam my thumbnail into the seam on both sides of the switch and like any mechanism under spring pressure, it too transforms itself into a nearly impossible looking puzzle.  Only this time, it's about 1000 times smaller  

After staring at the parts for about 10 minutes through the illuminated magnifier lamp I use for my electronics work, I start to see how the switch worked.  There was something that looked like a piece of bent wire that moved on a pivot.  Surely this random looking part was responsible for the toggling action of the switch, so out it went.  

Now all I had to do was to get that pencil-lead sized contact back into its holder and aligned with the contacts it slid on previously, while at the same time positioning the spring in it's proper place and snapping the upper body of the switch back in place.

Anyone who has tried this type of stuff probably already knows that you get about 3 chances to put it together.  The first one usually fails miserably and the second one usually involves looking for the parts for about 10-minutes.  By time the third and last attempt is upon you, you have enough experience with the mechanism to get it far enough to get some really good tension on that spring....

Long story longer, I think the spring went in my coffee and the little metal contact went into the cat box..and I'm not going in there looking for it.

So after all the "I told you so's" and promises to replace things fallen victim to my folly, I came to the conclusion that cobbing a real microswitch in there might not be a bad idea.  But seeing that I need to get a replacement light for the wife, I might as well pick up a couple extra and give it another shot.

I'll report back when I find out more......

RandyT

[Industen]

How do you know he gets em from coinexpress

Ransai Thread here:

=http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=79675&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


CoinopExpress
=http://www.coinopexpress.com/products/parts/push_button/Dome_Illuminated_Push_Button_3476.html

You have the link to beton cone style buttons

The Beton ones are in Adobe Arcobat Just click on Pushbuttons and go down a page or two.

[Wienerdog]

when looking at the HTMl source for that page, I took a look at the .js file that makes the framless page reload the page with frames.... came across this

"// added 11-14-2k1 by GSM: added a delay cause people were crying about it, customers that is"

Just thought that this touch of humanity left in by a programmer is funny. Usually code is so clinical and stale. It's really shocking when I see any kind of human messages in it.

Hahaha.  I think most programmers/webmasters still have a "touch of humanity" when it comes to berating their end users at least.

The funny part is that the year is listed as 2k1.  I hope I never reach his level of dork.  Wait, I'm on a programmer on a "build your own arcade controls" website.... crap... I'm too late.

[Goz]

WICO appears to have something really close to this

http://www.wicothesource.com/new2/pages/page86.htm

$9.95 each

model 22-0580-x

according to the price sheet comes in

Red, oRange, Yellow, Green, Blue, White

Size: 3 7/8"

[SNAAAKE]

Oh hey thanks,those wico buttons looks good enough.I will be selling them as well but it will be cheaper then ransai and I will put artwork+plexi.

Another question,how exactly do I light the buttons ?
Does a ps pad draws enough power to light 9 buttons with 5+ ?
Orrr any other way  

[Sephroth57]

nice those wico ones look the same. haha the ransai guy told you he imports them?? HAHAHA what a liar, he makes them himself i know him from the ddrfreak.com message boards. yeah bulk bought the 4$ buttons uses a 5$ PS1 pad, and makes a wood box, and sells them for 250$. i asked him a couple questions about how his controllers were made and he wouldnt even tell me. not that i need his help anyway, was just curious. but yeah that guys a total ripoff.

anyway, thos wico buttons will be what im using, 90$ for buttons is the best we can do with these.

[SNAAAKE]

nice those wico ones look the same. haha the ransai guy told you he imports them?? HAHAHA what a liar, he makes them himself i know him from the ddrfreak.com message boards. yeah bulk bought the 4$ buttons uses a 5$ PS1 pad, and makes a wood box, and sells them for 250$. i asked him a couple questions about how his controllers were made and he wouldnt even tell me. not that i need his help anyway, was just curious. but yeah that guys a total ripoff.

anyway, thos wico buttons will be what im using, 90$ for buttons is the best we can do with these.

Thats why I will be owning his ass for free
Mine will be $200 with lighted buttons and all the jizz  
(no not kidding,it dont look to hard to build.I can build like 5 every sunday lol)

[Industen]

Couldn't you use a cheap power supply and run LED's off of that? Just splice into the 12volt and ground and your done. I'm not an electrician but I do have 10 LED's on my cab doing the same. The only downside is you'd have to plug it in.  


SNAAAKE
If you are going to be building some you can add me to the list...your artwork is excellent!!!!

[Industen]

This will help you out.

Panel Dimensions:

http://www.geocities.com/sabinraijin/Blueprint.txt

The Happs buttons are the EXACT buttons used for Pop n Music in case you wanted to know. Now start busting out some sweet PNM artwork at you are set.

Doesn't look as good IMO, buttons are higher



HAPPS must get these buttons from CoinopExpress. Here is a HAPP built one

[SNAAAKE]

Couldn't you use a cheap power supply and run LED's off of that? Just splice into the 12volt and ground and your done. I'm not an electrician but I do have 10 LED's on my cab doing the same. The only downside is you'd have to plug it in.  


SNAAAKE
If you are going to be building some you can add me to the list...your artwork is excellent!!!!

What exactly are you refering to as "cheap power supply" ?
Atx powersupply
Anyone else have any other ideas about lighting these buttons ?

Yes you get a b.y.o.a.c discount allriiight  

[Industen]

I've used ATX power supplys for lighting. Just buy the cheapo 250watt ones. Go to Pricewatch.com and pick some up for 13 bucks each.

[adonis_minus_20]

Thats why I will be owning his ass for free
Mine will be $200 with lighted buttons and all the jizz  
(no not kidding,it dont look to hard to build.I can build like 5 every sunday lol)

Have you followed up on this idea?  Are you still planning on building these?  At $200 I'm interested.  If you can offer a good quality controller with all those features, and at that price point, you may just have yourself some business.

Jim

[Dave_K.]

This will help you out.

Panel Dimensions:

http://www.geocities.com/sabinraijin/Blueprint.txt

Thanks for the link Industen.  In case anyone actually wants to view this, you need to save this "txt" file as a .jpg locally, and then view.  The author did this so he could serve jpg's out of geocities without the warning msg coming up.

[Dave_K.]

But seeing that I need to get a replacement light for the wife, I might as well pick up a couple extra and give it another shot.

I'll report back when I find out more......

Randy, did you get a chance at taking another look at the tap lights? I believe I have one of these at home somewhere too...have to give it a try myself.  I don't see a problem if the dome is bigger than whats in the arcade (unless you want to be "authentic").  If anything, this makes it easier to hit/play.

[RandyT]

Randy, did you get a chance at taking another look at the tap lights? I believe I have one of these at home somewhere too...have to give it a try myself.  I don't see a problem if the dome is bigger than whats in the arcade (unless you want to be "authentic").  If anything, this makes it easier to hit/play.

I did pick up another to experiment on, but haven't gotten around to putting the pain to it.

I kind of got dis-enchanted with it when I could no longer find the mini touch lamps at the local dollar store.  

I'll give it another look this weekend, but these would be some awfully big buttons .

RandyT

[Dave_K.]

I was able to successfully take apart my taplight.  I'm guessing there may be several versions (ranging from cheap to expensive).  Mine had 4 screws to remove (easy).  The dome and outer ring seperated from the bottom.  3 springs in the bottom stayed in place due to small glue already applied to the holes (cool and easy!).  Onto the switch...same as described by Randy...a single square push button switch.  I used two very small flat head screwdrivers and pride it open.  Just like Randy, it virtually exploded into 6 pieces.  The bottom which has the connctions, the switch, a spring, and two very very small copper contacts.  I was successfull in removing the latch (small stape like wire in the midde)..very easily.  Trying to put everything back together was a b!tch, but possible.  I put batteries back in it and now it now functions as a momentary switch....only the light stays on, and turns off when I press down (need to simply resolder the switch).


I'm a little concerned the construction of the light is cheap and the switch will fail after the abuse I've seen some kids give those Pop'N Music machines.  But I guess for $.50 a pop ($1 for a package of 2) it could be worth a try  

[crashwg]

I've seen mini taplights before, are they any closer to the size of the real ones than the normal sized taplights, 'cuz if I recall correctly, the big ones are like 6" or something...

[Dave_K.]

I've seen mini taplights before, are they any closer to the size of the real ones than the normal sized taplights, 'cuz if I recall correctly, the big ones are like 6" or something...

The taplights are about 1 inch larger in diameter (4.5" v.s. 3.2" of the happs one). [the dome part that is]