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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2019, 07:45:11 pm »
Thoughts, suggestions, comments?
I'm honestly disappointed in the conduct here. I expected better.

Seems about par for new members not agreeing with the feedback given.  Nice of you to drop by. Good luck to you.

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New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2019, 07:54:16 pm »

I'm honestly disappointed in the conduct here. I expected better.

This makes me kind of sad because I wish the forums were more active and we can be hard on first timers but I assure you we are all trying to give you good advice because we've made similar mistakes in the past.  The most common one is trying to build a cabinet that plays "everything".  The one you posted is freaking gigantic.  The trackball in the middle is 3" in diameter for scale.  It's way too big.  There are too many control schemes to cover everything.  I mean you can't even play Q*bert and Pac-Man properly on the same cabinet without sacrificing and they both use 4-way joysticks.  The widescreen monitor will barely be used (and look horrible for 3:4 games, which will get a ton of play).  The button layout is so confusing - I've been playing arcade games for 35 years and it would take me an hour to figure out everything - imagine someone coming over who has no idea.  Simplicity is often overlooked but it is critical to a well-functioning cabinet.  If there was an optimal design, trust me we would point you to it. 

Browse the Project Announcement forum.  Check out the Hall of Fame thread that is stickied.  Read and then read some more.  There are so many inspirational projects that accomplish a lot of what you want to do but in a way more streamlined manner.  People can be harsh here because harsh criticism will make for a better end result.  If you want to be praised no matter what you build then the r/cade subreddit will suit you better - they love almost any POS cabinet over there that someone slaps together in a weekend.  If you stick around here you will learn a ton I promise.    :cheers:

I have nothing to add, I just wanted to re-post this  because it makes me want to weep tears of joy. This OG gets it.
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2019, 08:44:26 pm »
I think the design objective is limited by the single trackball, you need at least two to get good coverage.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2019, 10:49:23 am »
Yeah. What do any of the people here know about building arcade cabinets? Don't listen to any of them. Everyone will enjoy wading through a list of 20000 games. Oh and all of those joysticks and spinners and buttons will be super intuitive.

There is a reason PL1 and Titch posted what they did. Listen to the arcade control guys and not your woodworking buddy. Listen to the woodworking guy when you need some furniture built.

Odd since I literally took PL1's suggestions down to the two IPacs and Andy Warne's suggestions on managing the spinners and track ball. So where exactly am I disregarding their input?

Some members here can't help but over-react. That said, I suggest you more strongly consider the advice of the members who are not threatened by an actual dialogue, and look into cutting down more on that CP. I don't expect calling your design a "museum peice" is going to console you much when you actually try to use it and discover that it's not even an optimal all-in-one.
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2019, 10:53:56 am »
I knew you would show up to stalk me sooner or later. I told you a million times I am flattered, but not interested.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2019, 11:01:45 am »
You know everything sounds harsher when you just read it in text.  When I met a lot of these guys in person last week everyone was nice.  Just remember....friends don't let friends build 4 independent pedestals. :)

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2019, 11:02:57 am »
But then again part of me wants to see the photos of you and 3 friends each with their own pedestal playing a game.  Go for it!

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2019, 11:18:33 am »
Shame.

Shame on all of you for trying to keep someone from wasting money on stupid ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2019, 11:19:34 am »
Whats that old saying about taking a Horse to water??  :banghead:

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2019, 11:22:39 am »
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't keep it from building a ---smurfy--- cab. Or something like that.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2019, 11:24:55 am »
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't keep it from building a ---smurfy--- cab. Or something like that.

Yeah think it was out of that Sunset riders game.

If I remember right it was a 4 player game with 2 buttons per player?  :dunno :dunno

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2019, 11:36:22 am »
You know everything sounds harsher when you just read it in text.
Agreed. But text communication does not excuse saying something that is objectively not true. And you don't help Mike by covering for his dishonesty this way.

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When I met a lot of these guys in person last week everyone was nice.
I'm sure this is news to no-one. Who doesn't expect that Mike's act would fall apart in real life? I'm also sure the OP can also find real-life character witnesses who would dispute Mike's characterization of him. Heck, I can show you people who down-right love me , mean old Drake. So what? Don't we all already just assume somebody we don't like on the internet isn't 100% evil? But any random blathering will do to distract from Mike's specific dishonest statements in this thread, right?

Back on track: OP points out how he took some advice, yet Mike said he "disregards" advice and "knows it all". Cowards that they are, Mike and his fan club will say anything to distract from this, but they ain't helping him or the community.
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2019, 11:53:34 am »
Where was I dishonest?
I really am not attracted to you. I am sorry you cannot accept the truth.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2019, 12:23:10 pm »
Drake that's two times you've stuck your nose into my posts like you think I'm talking to you.  I've already decided you have nothing of value to me in that brain so let's make a deal.  I won't talk to you and you don't talk to me.


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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2019, 12:24:15 pm »
And also Drake. Nobody thinks you are mean. Just pathetic.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2019, 01:04:37 pm »
OP, take any advice from Drake with many large grains of salt. The guy is useless and is only here to hit on Mike A. No means no, Drake. No means no.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2019, 02:41:10 pm »
At least he doesn't have a boner for me anymore.
If you are helping someone and expecting something in return, you are doing business not kindness.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2019, 02:43:26 pm »
I'm sure he still has a half-chub for you.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2019, 02:46:58 pm »
* Malenko blushes
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2019, 09:52:03 pm »
There’s a Mike A fan club?  Where do I sign up?!  :lol

But seriously Drake, no means No!
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2019, 09:59:50 pm »
The line forms in the rear.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2019, 10:40:43 pm »
The line forms in the rear.

Tell the players, make it understood
It ain't no good if there's too much wood
Make sure you know before you go
The dance floor bro-hoe ratio
Five to one is a brodeo
Tell Steve and Mike it's time to go
Wait outside all night to find
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2019, 10:28:30 am »
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore

This is a very under utilized feature. It does not work with Tapatalk as far as I know, and it also doesnt work when the person you ignore gets quoted.
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2019, 10:30:58 am »
I knew you only had eyes for me. Even when you address other members you always circle back to me. I didn't know you lived close by. I am going to have to start closing my bedroom curtains at night.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2019, 11:00:21 am »
Let me know when the next party is Mike.

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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2019, 06:02:05 pm »
so its been a long time since i been around, but i have been a member here for a longer time still. I am in the process of building an arcade for my wedding. yes im weird but i do find it fun to play some games with the people i grew up playing arcade games with since we all dont get to hang out as much with life. specially with me being a truck driver im never home. My point is even with the all the people i expect to show up im still building only a 4 player cab or ped with 2 players with 6 action buttons and 2 players with 4 action buttons. possibly a track ball. and two light guns. cause after the wedding it will be in my place for my use and i wont have that many people over at one time to play again. My suggestion to you is if you want to build the cab like you have described the best advice i say if modular control panels. Build one with just the sticks and buttons then the other with the track ball and spinners. make it so you can disconnect them easily to swap them out. you could use an ipac4 for the first one and perhaps a usb hub for the second one that way you only have one cord going to the pc. I had been playing with a raspberry pi 3b+ as a possible choice for my cab but ruled it out as being under powered for KI and the light guns.
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Re: New Build need suggestions for part
« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2019, 05:16:24 pm »
@Drake: don't like does not mean dislike. Language, yo.


@MikeA: similar - had eyes only....    Only had (or has) eyes, no.... Not yet. Soon, perhaps.

Tell the players, make it understood
It ain't no good if there's too much wood
Make sure you know before you go
The dance floor bro-hoe ratio
Five to one is a brodeo
Tell Steve and Mike it's time to go
Wait outside all night to find
Twenty dudes in a conga line

Oh. I feel all tingly.
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