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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2019, 03:23:22 pm »
Nice work, it's looking good.  Do you have a render/drawing of what it will look like when finished?

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2019, 04:37:50 pm »
Thanks Arroyo, I've been having fun following your project as well!

Other than a few sketches, I don't have a decent render. Mostly I saw the image of the Vigolix, took a 6' board, sawed it in half diagonally, and went from there.

In some it's cool to be winging it, because it will be a little bit different in design. On the other hand it's a headache, not having a plan.

I'd say the bottom half of the machine is all worked out right now, but I'm not completely sure how tall it's going to be. I'm waiting to get some other parts cut up and then will fit them together to see whether I want to trim some off the top or not.

I should have a decent pic of it standing by the next update or two.


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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2019, 10:39:11 am »
Looking great so far. Solid work. Can't wait to see the next pics!

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2019, 01:19:46 pm »
Thanks Vigo! Your Vigolix was a big inspiration in designing the cab, even though it won't turn out the same. I probably would have built another Lusid inspired cabinet if I hadn't stumbled across yours and Delusional's threads.

It's been fun veering off the path a bit. I aimed for something practical but also was easily recognizable as an arcade machine. I think I'll hit that mark.

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2019, 01:33:41 pm »
Thanks, gingecko! That's what this place is about. Take something and evolve it to the next level. I can't wait to see how you evolve what I built! So far it looks very promising!  :cheers:

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2019, 11:51:22 am »
Going to share the last few pics before heading into the weekend (where I always hope I will get a ton of work done!).

Original plan was to add 2 intake fans on the bottom and 2 fans up top to vent out the hot air. My original cab was pretty warm, but it also had a larger/older computer and a giant monitor. Unfortunately, I found out there wasn't enough room to mount the two 120mm fans on the bottom rear panel. so I opted for just vents. Should probably be okay. I'll add a screen/filter behind them at some point.



I came up with a little jig for the router, to keep things neat. It was pretty fun, just remove a board from the bottom before each cut, to slide the router down. I then placed the whole thing on top of the rear panel as a guide. Probably better ways to do this, but it worked out all right and I might use it again for the top panel.



The next part I started hacking away at, was the rear/hatch door. It was too hot last night, and I was tired, so procrastination happened. I want a longer piece of framing to go down the side, but ran out of that wood, so instead of working I made a trip to the store. This weekend I hope to get the frame bits done (and magnets installed), door handle, and possibly a key lock. I'd love to get both top and bottom panels done, but will see.



Also on the agenda is finishing up the control panel box, speaker panel, and marquee dimensions.

@Vigo, thanks! I just hope it's "evolve" and not "devolve", haha!

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2019, 01:49:04 pm »
Nice jig and execution with it.  Good work Gingecko.

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2019, 11:48:53 am »
Oh yea, I was supposed to update the weekend before last, right?! Well, things are slow, as usual. I'm making progress, but also getting antsy about getting the damned garage organized again after I get done with woodworking. At the same time, stressing out and trying to take my time to make sure I don't screw up.

The weekend before last, was another hot one. I had seen the Emerson Straight Edge clamp from Arroyo's thread and nearly bought one...but I really like how easy my sawboard is to use. Make your line, clamp the sawboard on top and run the saw over the sawboard. But maybe I could modify it with clamps underneath?!

Exhibit A:


Exhibit B:


The clamps have 'star knobs' that I can unscrew/adjust. In theory, it was a great idea (I had seen something similar somewhere online, I'm sure) but in practice...the clamps sometimes got in the way of lining up the board on the sawhorses and took just as much time to clamp down as the clutch clamps I normally use. I've finally figured out the sweet spot where I need to place the board/sawboard on the sawhorse to get it clamped nicely. A little late in the game, but oh well. Worth a try I guess.

My main struggle that weekend was the bottom rear door. I had spent a good deal of time routing out space for magnets in the framing pieces and the door. I spent most of that Saturday morning building a jig that I thought was going to make it all perfect. Then turned out, I didn't have enough depth. The sun was baking down, and I needed to eat...so I grumpily waited until the evening. Finally finished, but after checking it out, turns out the thin magnets were too weak.

So I ordered more magnets, more cutting, and eventually ended up with this:





Doors are definitely a weak point for me, but at least this one will be better than the one on my first cabinet. Which wasn't even flush:



I'll have another door up top, but I'm hoping all the sweat I put into the first one, will make the second much easier.

I've pretty much been building from the floor up. And then will decide the final height of the side pieces on the cab. So next steps were Control Panel and Speaker panel. I'm close to done on the CP.

I made an angled cut to align the sides of the CP using the jig saw. I was pretty amazed that I guessed the angle correctly and it ended up that snug.





I basically re-cut all the control panel boards and tested angles and whatnot on scraps as I went. The top board got a 3/8" roundover (thank YouTube for the correct sized bit to use!) that turned out super sweet. Unfortunately I must have been too excited, wet my pants, and forgot to take pics.

For the CP, I have one cut to make on the top board as it's too long right now. I erred on the side of over-cutting everything after a number of mistakes. The top is just about perfect, so I'm going to have to be extra careful when cutting out the trackball, button/joy holes.

Then I'll try to trim the top edge of the front CP face, so the top panel will sit snug across the sides and front. That seems to be a really tricky angle to get right, so I'll have to test on quite a few scraps first.


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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2019, 11:57:56 am »
You should look at how the back side of many original arcade cabinets are built. They have a really simple and easy door solution. It is just one large slab held in place with a barrel lock.

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2019, 12:20:53 pm »
You should look at how the back side of many original arcade cabinets are built. They have a really simple and easy door solution. It is just one large slab held in place with a barrel lock.

Yea, on the first cab I had no clue. Searching for images of 'rear access Arcade' didn't yield very helpful results. ;)

Image searches are better now than back then, and I've got a vague idea how the Arcade doors look. But I guess the "problems" I was trying to solve were: "How to keep the door tight/secure but also make it easily removable without too much wear and tear?". Also, try to keep it looking more or less like an arcade machine. Obviously failing on that last part.

I had thought about using a barrel lock, and using pins/dowels to push fit the door into place. I figured that's more friction though and would eventually wear out either the pins or the holes. So, I over-complicated the damned thing. Best to listen to that little voice in your head when it starts saying "This doesn't look right...".

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2019, 05:22:04 pm »
Work feels like it's moving along a bit. I test cut the angle for the top of the control panel last night on a piece of scrap. Looks like I got it right, and hopefully will make the last of the cuts for the control panel tonight. (Don't screw it up!!)

The other day, I put together the hole saw to work on the speaker panel. Ends up looking like a Jack Kirby comic book gadget:



The speaker panel came together fairly well, with only a minor setback. I still need to figure out a smarter way to guide the router. I keep rigging stuff up, and then find it out doesn't work. Last night I basically just clamped a couple boards to make an L shape, where I could. Did each speaker corner, one at a time, then flipped them around to do the other sides. I should try and make some sort of adjustable U-shaped contraption for this stuff. I'm probably near the end of routing out patterns though.





The speakers will get strapped in there with some velcro straps and hardware. Still trying to decide on volume control and where to place it. I'm not sure it would look very good on the speaker panel, but I also don't want it to get confused with the spinner, if I put it on the control panel.

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2019, 06:37:59 pm »
That drill is way to clean. You need to drop it a few times. Maybe drag it behind your car.

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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2019, 10:59:04 am »
That drill is way to clean. You need to drop it a few times. Maybe drag it behind your car.

Haha, thanks Mike!

Picked that one up on sale. My old drill's battery isn't holding a charge much these days and a corded drill is really nice when drilling out a whole bunch of button holes.

I've started to dub this project the "Money Pit" though. Thinking it wouldn't cost much to build, when I already have some controls....was damned naive. On the plus side, I'll have a lot of tools and materials for other projects.

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2019, 11:46:29 am »
Well, another weekend down. Feel like I got a fair amount accomplished and getting closer to getting out of the woodworking stage. Good news for me at least.

One man blocking/assembly, while my helper is away




Closer




Late Night, Saturday Night






Sunday morning, tear it back apart to trim the rounded top off.



Got that done, cut another small access door in the upper part. Added some vents, and glued a strip up top to close the height gap.

Thought I was all done with the router, but looks like the fans I wanted to install don't have enough clearance. So I'm probably going to route out a spot for them tonight.

I also need to figure out how to get the front of the control panel attached. I had stupidly drilled into the 'end grain' when attaching the sides to the bottom of the control panel, and of course some splitting started to happen. I could try drilling bigger pilot holes, but I just don't trust it not to split. Problem is, there isn't much room on the inside of the control panel for support pieces to attach to. Maybe I'll just try making some dowels and gluing it together.

After that, it's figuring out the final arrangement on the control panel top. Drilling all them holes, and then move on to Bondo and sanding.

[Edit] Feel like I'm learning/re-learning a ton lately. If I ever make another cab, so many things I would do differently the next time around. But I'm sure there are other new/old mistakes I would still make. Such is life.
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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2019, 12:12:27 pm »
Damn man, it's really coming together.  That's an interesting shape, and I see now the Vigolix inspiration.  I don't think I commented on it before but those are some are some sweet doors and vents.  Keep it up!

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Re: Xanitron - A Return
« Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 03:47:43 pm »
Thanks Arroyo, it turned out much different than what I thought it would. But I think it will work in the long run.

Well, sometimes things go great, like the other night. Sometimes they just go south...

I started off thinking I would saw a metal rod that I had planned to use to extend the volume knob. Throw it in a vice. Hacksaw. Nope. Dremel cutting tool. Nope. Jigsaw with metal blade?! Nope. Crap.

Ok, what else can I work on instead? Cut the holes for the fans on the back panel....line up the fans and filter, get out the hole saws. 5", too big. 4", too small. Grumble, grumble. Order a 4.5" one online...not happening tonight.

What else? Cut hole for Vandal Switch. Should be easy enough...except the nut is stuck. About 15 minutes later, finally get that unscrewed. Drill a hole into the MDF with a forstner bit. All smooth and good, a little too small. Sand out just enough room to get the switch in there. Hmmm, need to route out space for the nut. Dremel that out. Screw it in. Looking good. Now...just take it out so I can paint someday. NOT coming out. Damned threads must be stripped or something, because it does not want to unscrew all the way. Can get a turn left/right but then it gets stuck hard. WD-40, no go. Frustration sets in, and out comes the chisel. Maybe I can break the switch to get it out. Durh, MDF gives way before metal does.



Instead of making any progress, I just added more gluing, Bondo, and sanding time. Sucks, but sometimes that's how it goes. Luckily, not all the time.