Arcade1up Clearance Sale

[yotsuya]

Is “spicy old crusty farts” not too harsh?

[yotsuya]

You are too defensive in your old age. I know you're not the only one in this thread that wants justification for your purchase decision. And that's fine.   But I'm not going to stop informing people my opinion on their quality. Nor am I going to stop chuckling every time I see another member sinks even more money into these things.

Getting older is a ---smurfette---... no lie there.  I'm not looking for justification, and if I was, I don't need it from here. I don't mind opinions, what I do mind is mob mentality and the insults that come with that sometimes accompany that opinion. I thought it was harsh.

That is rich coming from you. 

I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.

[jennifer]

Well, if you want to get down to brass tacks,... Yes Jenn would build her own, But it should also be mentioned I have built a few games over the years and have quite an elaborate workbench  (IMO)...I do however believe these games do not deserve all the hate either, they do serve a purpose, kind of like the Barbie jeep.

[yotsuya]

they do serve a purpose, kind of like the Barbie jeep.

I totally agree with you there. I’m also 99.9% sure owners of said Barbie Jeeps don’t frequent 4x4 forums pretending they are the real thing. They understand they are toys.

[yotsuya]

BTW, don’t let my use of the word “toy” trigger any ill feelings. They are sold and classified as such.

[DrakeTungsten]

Yots, why does it have to be "any more"?  Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.

[yotsuya]

Yots, why does it have to be "any more"?  Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.

No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.

[ark_ader]

Yots, why does it have to be "any more"?  Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.

No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.

It won't go away.  There is Saint's Project Arcade book.  Crammed with all the details of building your arcade cabinets.  Perhaps you should buy a copy, to give you peace of mind, and to reflect in your 90's when wood becomes the value of gold, how you wasted your time building what you could have bought for $150 at gamestop.

[Malenko]

I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.

X2 is also consistent.

[yotsuya]

Yots, why does it have to be "any more"?  Maybe it's just "sometimes", and is "sometimes" all that bad? You sound like you feel betrayed.

No, I don’t care what others do. But I learned a lot from great build techniques and documentation, and that’s a shame if that goes away.

It won't go away.  There is Saint's Project Arcade book.  Crammed with all the details of building your arcade cabinets.  Perhaps you should buy a copy, to give you peace of mind, and to reflect in your 90's when wood becomes the value of gold, how you wasted your time building what you could have bought for $150 at gamestop.

I did buy a copy. None of the stuff I learned came from it, but rather projects that builders crates and documented here. The book itself is unfortunately outdated - In fact, I bought it more to throw a few bucks Saint’s way than anything else.

Trust me, I’ll have no regrets I didn’t spend a cent on these. Why would I when I have a room full of real machines.

You know it brings me joy? Taking them to ZapCon and sharing them with people.

[yotsuya]

I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.

X2 is also consistent.

Damn. If I wuz Lew, I’d threaten to pull a MikeA on yer face for that one....

[DGP]

This thread needs a shutdown, or is it a wall...

     



 
 

[jennifer]

Relax Yots...Nobody's getting bumped by Game stop, Even if they came out with something more traditional it's still at best be a pathetic collection (for an adult), with virtually no return on investment. That's probibally why there so small anyway, less profit in shipping big.

[yotsuya]

Relax Yots...Nobody's getting bumped by Game stop, Even if they came out with something more traditional it's still at best be a pathetic collection (for an adult), with virtually no return on investment. That's probibally why there so small anyway, less profit in shipping big.

Baby, I’m relaxed. I’m so chill you could store a side of beef inside me.

[negative1]

the Atari 12-1 deluxe with the riser $280 at best buy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-12-in-1-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-atari-graphics/6288355.p?skuId=6288355

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[leapinlew]

I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.

X2 is also consistent.

way below the belt...

[saint]

Thanks yots! It *is* 14 years old at this point

The book itself is unfortunately outdated - In fact, I bought it more to throw a few bucks Saint’s way than anything else.

[saint]

My 2 bits...

Mame led me to Dave's Videogame Classics, and a thread about building an arcade control panel.

Which led me to opening up BYOAC.

Which led me to buying my first real arcade machines (DK, Gyruss, and Kangaroo) and fulfilled a childhood fantasy.

Which led me to writing Project Arcade.

Which led me to building my first full cabinet (I'd only ever played with bits and pieces and half-finished projects until then).

Which finally led me to this thread

....

If I were just starting now, I'd probably buy one of these machines from Walmart. I suspect from there I'd get disappointed at the build quality as the artwork rubbed off, which very likely would lead me to thinking about tweaking or building my own.

Which might bring me here.

...

I'm all about whatever makes people happy as long as I don't think they're getting ripped off, and I think these cabinets are probably OK regardless of the price as they do what they advertise they'll do. As a gateway drug to the hobby I think they're fine. I probably wouldn't buy one now knowing what I know, because I have the means to do something better. But if I didn't have the time or inclination to help someone with their own, I might steer them towards one of these.

And if they drop to $100 or so I might pick one up to hack.

[Malenko]

I may not agree with Lew sometimes, but he’s consistent so I respect that.

X2 is also consistent.

way below the belt...

I don't see the benefit of not being able to grow; not sure how that is considered hitting below the belt.  I agree with Saint's take on the A1Ups, and I have an autographed copy of his book

[Gilrock]

I almost bought one and I'm capable of building my own.  I had been out of the hobby busy in another hobby and I was shopping for a Christmas present for my son.  I ran into these in Walmart and they looked great on the box but they did not have one on display.  I thought it might be cool for him to have in his dorm room.  What bothered me was it only having 2 games.  I almost bought it because I'm an impulsive buyer but I decided I'd drive back home and do some research on whether I could get MAME running on it.  I found it was possible but I talked myself out of getting one and decided to build a bartop for him.  So I found plans and got a RetroPie bartop up and running in 4 days.  It did end up costing me more to build the bartop but I've got 64 popular MAME games, Dragon's Lair I and II, Space Ace, as well as some NES and Sega Genesis games running on it.  What the Arcade1Up has done is renewed my interest in the hobby.  I've now backed off my other hobby and I'm back finishing my full size arcade.  Little did I know the beating I avoided by not making the purchase.

[Malenko]

Well Im glad it brought you back, I'm diggin your Vpin build.

[FrizzleFried]

Saint...

Did you ever finish that project that had you building what "appeared" to be train tracks around the top part of your walls some number of years back?

If so... please point me toward the thread.  I'd love to see the result.

PS: I am still right most of the time. 

[Osirus23]

I ran into these in Walmart and they looked great on the box but they did not have one on display.

When I first went to check them out I couldn't find the display at first. I honestly didn't know I was looking for something waist-high. Didn't help that the demo was nowhere near where the actual cabinets for sale were.

[RandyT]

This forum is one of the few places I wouldn't expect to see complaints about the height of these units, at least with regard to it being a "showstopper" for them.  It takes nearly nothing to build and finish a box to make them any height you want them to be. 

When I ordered mine, it was for testing purposes with a special TurboTwist2 offering specifically developed for them, but at the same time, I knew I was going to build my own base for the unit.  Also, after reading about the panel artwork issue, I knew I had a few options:  complain to the company and get an plastic overlay (I hate overlays), spray it with a can of clear lacquer or laminate it with some of the clear PSA vinyl I just happen to have here.  I chose the latter, but any of those three are simple solutions and a good idea for a panel anyway, if you want it to look nice long-term. 

I'd also like to note that with a good, specialized spinner control, the stock games play very decently.  But with a little tweak of the settings (requires the USB mod) Tempest and Major Havoc play as well on this unit as they do on my full-sized cabinet.  With the leaf-buttons, the other games play great as well.  These are mods nearly anyone can do, and it's a good learning process for those with an interest for the hobby.  Just doing the things I outlined above (successfully) will prepare people with just about as much knowledge as they would need to do a scratch build.  And if they fail at those things or find that they cost too much, well, it's probably a good indicator that a different hobby might be a better choice for them.

[pumpkinpie]

Welcome Pumpkin. We got some spicy old crusty farts who have some very rigid ideas. I may just build up a A1Up just to get them to shutup, but they'll just claim it's a waste of money. Can't really win.

If you like your machine, good for you. I like mine and plan on doing some work to it. The build quality on them needs some re-enforcing for heavy user, but they are good. They are scratching the itch for a lot of folks and coming to BYOAC is a good move if you plan on doing some mods to yours. .

Thanks Lew - no worries, lord knows i have been a crusty old fart at times !

I think the machine is ok at stock but should be much better once i get it modded the way i want.  I am trying to sell the board, monitor and possibly the control panel which will help keep the costs low.

If i can sell those then the cabinet with artwork would have costed $50 or less which i cant complain about.

For the record, dude has been here for over a year, and has a full-sized cabinet posted. So your welcoming and defending him as a new member makes you look like an ass.  We can be asses together, Lew. <holds hands>

unfortunately i had to sell that as my girlfriends son moved back in with us and i lost any available free space that i had which is partly why i am keeping and modding the A1up for now.

i know in the future that i will want a full cab so i will always be on the lookout for another, or i may end up building my own

[negative1]

ok, since I have near mint blasteroids, and never thought about modding it.
(let alone play it, it gets a yearly play a few times)... the only issues I ever had
were:

1) new power supply replaced when I bought it, by an arcade technician
2) removing the control panel (with whatever security screws they had on there), and oiling the 2nd spinner

that's it... since 1997. not bad for 22 years of owning it..

so that leads to : inducted by fire with an arcade 1up machine


TOP 10 things I think I learned from owning an arcade 1up, but was too lazy to do before I got it.
(including owning 2 non-working cocktail cabinets):
============================================================
1   learned about JST connectors and wiring (while replacing the stock joystick, with an arcade quality one)

2  learning about .187 inch connectors and 5 pin harness, and wiring them up correctly to the encoder (part of joystick replacement)

3  learned about LCD monitor controller, and wiring up connectors

4  had to relearn how to solder connectors and wires (for USB and UART hack) [did it before when I was ex-electrical engineer in college]

5  learned about making an LCD marquee, and getting software and hardware to work with it, [researching digital picture frames,
media players, and media sticks]

6 learning about zero delay USB encoders, buttons and joystick wiring

7 learning about how the stock board software custom MAME programs can be altered, and run with reconfiguring ROMS and interfacing
with external USB drives, and detecting issues with altering ROMS

8 mounting alternate control panels, external controls, external consoles, and interfacing with stock board

9 relearning everything that is needed to get an actual arcade spinner/dial to interface, encoder wheels, trackballs, rollers, and configuring
them to work correctly with those games

10 learning about acrylics, vinyl, and other materials used to replace all the artwork, control panels, protecting them, and what areas get
wear and tear (although I have yet to see any signs of it on my cabinet, or my friends)


not too bad a lesson for $100, which is what I paid for it.

I agree, that if people can't mod this, then forget about anything bigger or more complicated,
every other person on reddit has issues with pi and setting up image, setting up controllers, etc, etc, etc..

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[jennifer]

My top 10 learning list in building cabs can All be found in Saints book.... Outdated whatever,   , It is timeless and should be reprinted with gold ink..... And then mailed out to everyone here who thinks some W/mart CNC is a viable substitute for craftsmanship. 

[negative1]

the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.

i don't own any drills, or any power tools.

would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.

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[Nephasth]

the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.

i don't own any drills, or any power tools.

would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.

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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?

Buy some tools! Jesus,

[negative1]

the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.

i don't own any drills, or any power tools.

would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.

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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?

Buy some tools! Jesus,

well i might have to now. but the thing is, it's not worth it for the
few times i would use them.

also, i'm cheap, so i'll probably just borrow them from a friend.

i'm waiting on a cocktail cabinet kit, but i'm sure i will have to do extensive
drilling for the controls.

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[leapinlew]

the only tools i own are screwdrivers, pliers, wrenches, a hand saw, and a hammer.

i don't own any drills, or any power tools.

would have to borrow or rent them, if i ever had to do anything more
than doing a straight cut.

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Do you keep them in the kitchen junk drawer?

Buy some tools! Jesus,

Gonna have to agree with getting some tools. At a minimum, everyone should have a power drill of some sort. Putting in curtains, to building an arcade cabinet, it's essential. $15 at Harbor Freights for a variable speed corded drill.

[jennifer]

Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS  AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404

[leapinlew]

Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS  AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404

And in my opinion, a tool investment should be made depending on it's anticipated usage. I lose screwdrivers left and right, I'm going to buy the middle of the road set of screwdrivers and not a super expensive set. My heat gun is a cheapy from Harbor Freights. I've used it a couple times in the last 5 years. No reason to spend a lot of money. I bought a cheap router, and after a few arcade games, I upgraded to a better router. Same with my jigsaw. Cheapie clamps do the job for me. It just depends on the tool and how much you use it. You can go broke buying all the tools at the best quality.

Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.

[negative1]

The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------

The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.

It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.

===============================================
tst_galx          Galaxian Test ROM                                           
gghost            Goalie Ghost                                                 
alpha1v           Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)               
ldrun2            Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back                 
kyustrkr          Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker                         
bgaregganv        Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)                                                                         
slipstrm          Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)                                 
slipstrmh         Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)                               
demofist          Demolish Fist                                               
finalizr          Finalizer - Super Transformation   

=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]

Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.





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[Howard_Casto]

Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS  AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404

Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.

I dunno.  For most tools I would agree, but I've got two craftsman cordless drills and they are easily the most useful tools I've ever owned.  Makes other drills, especially other cordless drills, look like wet dog turds.  I do agree about having a wired backup though. 

[leapinlew]

Harbor freight is not investing in ones future, Tools IMO should be of quality and pay it forward for a lifetime....Jennifer just bought on of these (and its still on sale boys better hurry!) and let me tell you IT IS  AWESOME! https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-benchtop-spindle-sander-model-708404

Yeah, there are better drills out there, but if you don't have a drill at all, and money is tight, this would be good enough to get an idea. And besides, I think everyone should have a corded drill backup for when the battery is not charged or dead.

I dunno.  For most tools I would agree, but I've got two craftsman cordless drills and they are easily the most useful tools I've ever owned.  Makes other drills, especially other cordless drills, look like wet dog turds.  I do agree about having a wired backup though.

Cordless drills - so many options....

I had a 9.6v Black and Decker that was my absolute favorite. It was light weight and had enough umph to do all the basics I needed it for. The lightweight was key for me. I couldn't build a deck with it, but I could hang curtains, pictures and other overhead tasks without getting tired quickly. My Dewalt has more torque and options, but it's heavier and if my B&D didn't die, I would use the B&D over the Dewalt despite the Dewalt being "better" in almost every way other than price and weight.

To each their own. We can agree that a cordless drill is an awesome tool to have, but my main point was the dude should at least own a drill as it's the most used tool for many folks.

[negative1]

well, i don't drink (much)



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[ark_ader]

The Stock Asteroids boards supports these games:
[Note: Forget to include Asteroids Deluxe which is
on the board]
==============================================
Street fighter 2 : CE
------------------------

The video showings it booting, the roms, the dipswitches,
and mapping input screens.

It works great for me, with a fighting stick attached.

===============================================
tst_galx          Galaxian Test ROM                                           
gghost            Goalie Ghost                                                 
alpha1v           Alpha One (Vision Electronics / Kyle Hodgetts)               
ldrun2            Lode Runner II - The Bungeling Strikes Back                 
kyustrkr          Last Striker / Kyuukyoku no Striker                         
bgaregganv        Battle Garegga - New Version (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Mar 2
1996)                                                                         
slipstrm          Slip Stream (950515 Brazil)                                 
slipstrmh         Slip Stream (950515 Hispanic)                               
demofist          Demolish Fist                                               
finalizr          Finalizer - Super Transformation   

=================================
Video also shows the following games:
1) Alpha one - side scrolling shooter
2) Load Runner 2 - horizontal puzzle action game
3) Battle garegga - vertical scrolling shooter
4) Finalizer - vertical scrolling shooter
5) Goalie Ghost - horizontal sports game
6) Last striker - horizontal sports game
7) Slipstream - Racing game [but runs at about 70% speed]

Demolish Fist is a modern 3d side scrolling game, that does
not run at all. Very graphic intensive.


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This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable.  All the ROMS are licensed.  So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised.  Makes that $299 more worth the money.

[JDFan]

This makes the 1Up Arcade even more collectable.  All the ROMS are licensed.  So not only do you get a cabinet, but more ROMS than advertised.  Makes that $299 more worth the money.

Actually those hidden games may/may not be licensed - could be they were trying to get licensing and couldn't so they never included them in the final production - but were just too lazy/late to remove them from the production run of the boards figuring no one could access them any way - So not necessarily licensed !

[Nephasth]

Newflash, nobody gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about licensing.