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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2018, 02:28:57 pm »
The chip is more than enough for PSX as it is. People always fall into this belief that PSX emulation requires significantly faster hardware. It's 1993 tech.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2018, 09:25:17 pm »
Yeah, it started as an add-on for the snes.  The N64 was a more powerful machine and I think because they were of the same generation people assume it takes a lot to run either one. 

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #82 on: November 28, 2018, 01:06:46 pm »
Some less than impressive benchmarks are out.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-playstation-classic-emulation-first-look

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What's baffling is the inclusion of PAL versions at all, particularly when the vast majority of the PAL titles in this list were actually developed in Japan or the United States. So what's the problem here? Well, these days all console systems run at 60Hz - a format accepted by HDTVs the world over.
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 Side-by-side with the NTSC equivalents, PAL versions are generally slow and plodding and don't properly represent a US or Japanese developer's original vision.

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/11/28/playstation_classic_torn_down_benchmarked

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Remarkably, even the NTSC games have issues. You can see that with the performance snapshot of R4 Ridge Racer Type 4 embedded below. Original hardware runs this title locked at 30fps with perfect frame-pacing - a new frame is delivered every two screen refreshes without fail. Running under emulation on the PlayStation Classic, not only are frames delivered with 'blips' adding some stutter, but there also appear to be performance dips too - which do not occur in the game running on original hardware.


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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2018, 09:57:59 pm »
So you apparently plug in a USB keyboard and hit escape to get to an emulator menu on these things...
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #84 on: December 05, 2018, 10:33:12 am »
Supposedly not all keyboards work for that. I think I read that Logitech and Corsair are known to work, but other brands might not. Hopefully more information comes out this week as other users try theirs to see what other keyboards are compatible.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #85 on: December 07, 2018, 12:08:59 pm »
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/12/05/playstation-classic-datamine-seems-to-reveal-36-rejected-games

Interesting article about 36 games being tested on the PS Mini but not included.  I just hope everyone works together to make it hackable just like the other mini systems.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2018, 09:18:01 am »

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2018, 09:36:18 am »
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2018, 10:32:03 am »
Is there any actual content on that website?

Take a shot every time there's a quotation mark.
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2018, 03:51:01 pm »
Is there any actual content on that website?
Take a shot every time there's a quotation mark.

Plus the moderator of that page was 5 when the original came out....seeeewwwwwww......

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2018, 04:30:06 pm »
I just hope everyone works together to make it hackable just like the other mini systems.
http://www.psx-place.com/threads/playstationclassic-released-hacked-everything-you-need-to-know.21581/

Is there any actual content on that website?

After I posted that, I was like, "Why did I do that?"

Here's a better article ABOUT the hack, but not a how-to (though some of the links may getcha there)

https://kotaku.com/its-mad-easy-to-hack-the-playstation-classic-1831022885 (yes, I know....Kotaku....ugh)

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2018, 05:51:07 pm »
I like how ETA Prime has a better solution for $35.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2018, 08:13:40 am »
I like how ETA Prime has a better solution for $35.



ETA Prime is my go to for console and small form factor reviews.  He's almost got me convinced to retire my pi and pick up a Nvidia Shield for all my emulator needs.  A $140 price tag isnt bad either.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2018, 08:56:27 am »
Mr. Mario has a great video on YT for how to hack this console using a program called BleemSync. It looks like we're getting pretty darn close to a Hakchi quality solution for this system. FWIW this guy has many great videos for modding consoles. I've used his techniques for quite a few of my systems. Highly recommended.  :cheers:


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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2018, 09:42:34 am »
Mr. Mario has a great video on YT for how to hack this console using a program called BleemSync. It looks like we're getting pretty darn close to a Hakchi quality solution for this system. FWIW this guy has many great videos for modding consoles. I've used his techniques for quite a few of my systems. Highly recommended.  :cheers:



Well... damn. 
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2018, 10:44:17 pm »
Well... damn.

Didn't take very long, huh? I like the fact that it's essentially a "dual boot" system and you're not really modifying the console itself. All you have to do is take the USB stick out, cycle the power on the system, and things are back to stock.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2018, 10:40:02 am »
FYI Best Buy has these now for regular price ($99.99), buy you get a $25 e-gift card with purchase. So if you do a lot of shopping there, it's like getting the console for $75.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2018, 08:54:59 pm »
$75 at Amazon plus $25 gift card back....
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2018, 10:58:51 pm »
$75 at Amazon plus $25 gift card back....

Wow! That was a way better deal than BB. Looks like they must have sold out pretty quick. I don't see them listed there any longer...

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2018, 06:51:20 am »

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2018, 07:58:48 am »
They're now only £50 on Amazon UK. That's probably cheaper than a Pi3 once you factor in the case and controllers, and the spec of the SOC is very similar.

So, I'd say they're definitely worth considering for people willing to hack them.
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2018, 11:45:46 am »
If you buy from Wal-Mart with Google Express, you can knock another $12 off it.  We're getting into tempted territory because from what I'm reading, it's already emulating other systems better than the S/NES Classics....
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #102 on: December 28, 2018, 10:41:37 pm »
If you buy from Wal-Mart with Google Express, you can knock another $12 off it.  We're getting into tempted territory because from what I'm reading, it's already emulating other systems better than the S/NES Classics....

Really? What I've read is that the NES/SNES Classics even do a better job running PSX games than this does. Haven't used one though.

Best Buy has a freaking pile of these things on the shelf for $60.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #103 on: December 31, 2018, 08:13:50 pm »
If you buy from Wal-Mart with Google Express, you can knock another $12 off it.  We're getting into tempted territory because from what I'm reading, it's already emulating other systems better than the S/NES Classics....

Really? What I've read is that the NES/SNES Classics even do a better job running PSX games than this does. Haven't used one though.

Best Buy has a freaking pile of these things on the shelf for $60.



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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #104 on: December 31, 2018, 09:02:37 pm »
If you buy from Wal-Mart with Google Express, you can knock another $12 off it.  We're getting into tempted territory because from what I'm reading, it's already emulating other systems better than the S/NES Classics....
Got a link?

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2019, 01:36:40 pm »
Express.google.com

Promo code NEWYEAR19

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2019, 01:41:46 pm »
Express.google.com

Promo code NEWYEAR19

Verified working today

Looks like they only have it from Best Buy not Walmart - but same pricing ! ( so if searching through Walmart it doesn't show in search.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #107 on: January 20, 2019, 04:56:16 pm »
They are about to release BleemSync 1.0 which will be a real game changer for the PS Classic. Essentially it will be as hackable as the Nintendo Classic machines. Here’s a good video that outlines the features:


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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #108 on: February 12, 2019, 11:50:00 am »
Is there a price point that is the sweet spot for these?  I see they are now down to $40 at Wal-Mart.  From the reviews, it seems they are worth about 20, if that. 

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #109 on: February 12, 2019, 02:54:46 pm »
Is there a price point that is the sweet spot for these?  I see they are now down to $40 at Wal-Mart.  From the reviews, it seems they are worth about 20, if that. 

Yeah, $20 is where I'm at. I already have a ton of better ways to play these games.
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #110 on: February 12, 2019, 03:54:53 pm »
I finally put my hands on one in a Think Geek store.


In a shop full of cheap junk, it stood out as particularly cheap junk.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #111 on: February 13, 2019, 05:51:12 am »
Good to know.  Sounds like 5 dollars or less is only thing worth the gamble.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #112 on: February 13, 2019, 07:07:45 am »
Surely these things are worth at least $40? People didn't hesitate to spend $60-$70 for the Nintendo minis. They were pretty nice out of the box (except for the ultra short cords on the controllers), but were way better once they were hacked. The PS Classic isn't so great out of the box, but with the hacking tools that are available now you can pretty much put any game on there and can modify the system much to the extent of what can be done with the Nintendo consoles. You get some nice USB controllers (and can get a 8Bitdo receiver to use DS controllers if you want), HDMI output, plus a pretty robust SOC in a very nice miniaturized shell. I guess I'm kind of surprised that people wouldn't want this thing for $40. I feel like that's a steal relative to the original $100 price tag.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #113 on: February 13, 2019, 09:48:54 am »
Been emulated to death and it's a generation that didn't age well.

Controllers felt smaller than the originals but it's been a good 10 years since I touched originals. 
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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #114 on: February 13, 2019, 10:19:24 am »
I guess I'm kind of surprised that people wouldn't want this thing for $40. I feel like that's a steal relative to the original $100 price tag.

Just another thing to collect dust. I was excited about the SNES Classic when I got it and modded it. Now it just sits there.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #115 on: February 13, 2019, 11:06:06 am »
I was excited about the SNES Classic when I got it and modded it. Now it just sits there.

This is pretty much everything I buy anymore tbh.

Also, the $100 original price was absurd, and probably why these things sold with the speed of molasses.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #116 on: February 13, 2019, 12:26:11 pm »
While I agree that some games look terrible now (mostly the 3D ones), I am still amazed at how big of a leap the PS games were compared to the 16 bit stuff. I remember seeing FFVII for the first time and just being in disbelief at how awesome it looked. And some of the 2D games like Castlevania SOTN are both amazing visually and have phenomenal soundtracks. I'm playing through that one right now and just keep thinking how much I wish they would come out with another Castlevania game in that exact same style for one of the new consoles. I may be a little biased on the PS since it was the console that got me back into gaming after I got out of it in HS and the first part of college, but aren't these mini systems more about nostalgia then being phenomenal gaming machines anyway?

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #117 on: February 13, 2019, 12:31:36 pm »
aren't these mini systems more about nostalgia then being phenomenal gaming machines anyway?

That only gets you so far. At the end of the day, it's supposed to be an enjoyable gaming experience, which the PS Classic has mostly failed at.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #118 on: February 13, 2019, 12:37:23 pm »
Sony's also been much better about discounting games, backwards compatibility, and making the games available digitally on newer platforms... so there's no unmet thirst here.

I paid ~$30 for the AtGames Genesis Flashback thing, and that came with 2 wireless controllers and shipped with a decent library.

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Re: Playstation Classic coming December 2018
« Reply #119 on: February 13, 2019, 02:10:39 pm »
I do agree that Sony botched this one big time. If they had put better games in the lineup and used their own emulation I think people would have gladly paid full price for it. Thankfully there are folks dedicated enough to put out free tools to hack it which make it a considerably better experience. It was a money grab and now Sony is paying the price for that. With the way these consoles are dropping in price, I doubt they will look to putting out a PS2 mini.

As far as the ATGames Genesis goes, those things are still selling for $79.99 in most places. I would have thought they'd be down to $30 or $40 by now with the bad reviews they've had, especially considering that Sega is coming out with another mini system soon...