Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news


  

Author Topic: 3d printed LS-30 replacement handle for the Happ Rotary Joystick  (Read 182 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

PL1

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 6833
  • 2013 UCA Awardee
3d printed LS-30 replacement handle for the Happ Rotary Joystick
« on: September 10, 2018, 08:01:51 pm »
Do you want the look and feel of an LS-30 handle for your Happ Rotary Joystick?



If so, this is the thread for you. :)

All 3D printed parts in this project are easy to customise by changing the related variable(s) in OpenSCAD.

The code is extensively commented to make it easy to understand, modify, and reuse.

Original LS-30 handle next to the printed version.



Special thanks to 8BitMonk for loaning me an LS-30 handle.  :cheers:

---------------
Tools:
- 3d printer
- Drill press
- 4mm and 5mm drill bits
- Calipers (preferably metric)
- Allen wrenches
- Metal saw or cutting bit
- Files

Hardware:
- 10mm shaft (~105-125mm per stick, depending on panel thickness)
https://www.amazon.com/500mm-Cylinder-Linear-Optical-Accuracy/dp/B01N7RXCOQ/

- 20x10x10 shaft collar
https://www.amazon.com/SC45CS10-Carbon-Steel-Collars-Outsize/dp/B074BV3GYH/

- 5mm-0.80 x 10mm metric setscrew
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/fasteners-fastener-accessories/screws/specialty-screws-accessories/5mm-0-80-x-10mm-metric-socket-set-screws-1-pcs/p-1444440045536-c-8938.htm

- 3D print-coating epoxy (optional)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PFXK4JY/

- Threaded inserts for mounting the joystick in a wood panel
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70&products_id=317

Software:
- OpenSCAD
http://www.openscad.org/

- Inkscape (optional)
https://inkscape.org/en/

- Inkscape to OpenSCAD converter plugin (optional)
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:24808

Files:
The following files are in the Happ_LS30_Handle_Files.zip file attached at the bottom of this post.
- LS30_Handle.scad
- LS30_Setscrew_Cover.scad
- LS30_Shaft_Cover.scad
- LS30_Test_Print.scad
- SNK_Logo.dxf
- SNK_Logo.svg
- Inkscape to DXF Directions.txt

------------------
LS-30 handle measurements

8BitMonk provided the clearance measurements and panel thickness from his Ikari Warriors cab.   :applaud:   :notworthy:

Most of the remaining handle measurements were straight-forward.

The difficult part was measuring the tiny curve on the vertical edges of the octagon.

Most fillet gauges are designed to measure a curve where the faces are at 90 degrees.



To measure the curve on an octagon where the faces are at 135 degrees, I designed some small octagonal fillet gauges.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2924356



Happ Rotary measurements

Once again, the measurements were pretty straight-forward.



The 38mm distance from the actuator/coupler (P/N 96-1012-00) setscrew hole to the base of the pivot cone (P/N 96-1302-00) is a critical distance to ensure that the actuator is at the right height to engage the microswitches *and* keep the right tension on the centering spring.

To match that distance, the replacement handle and shaft cover has to stop the pivot cone where the shoulder on the original shaft (P/N 95-1274-00) did.



The top of the pivot cone is 2.5mm below the top of the joystick body.



Fabricating the shaft
1. Make a horizontal mark at 4.2mm for the first hole.

One way to do that is to paint part of the shaft with a Sharpie, set your calipers to 4.2 mm, barely rest one jaw on the end, and roll the shaft so the tip of the other jaw leaves a scratch.

 

Drill a 4mm hole, 4mm deep, 4.2mm from the end of the shaft.

2. Measure and mark the distance from the center of the first hole to the center of the shaft collar setscrew.

That distance = 55mm + the estimated shaft cover height from this list:

-- 19.7mm shaft cover for a metal panel
(15.6mm above + 1.6mm panel + 2.5mm under)
-- 37.2mm shaft cover for 3/4" MDF
(15.6mm above + 19.1mm panel + 2.5mm under)
-- 34mm for a 5/8" wood panel
-- 30.8mm for a 1/2" wood panel

If you plan on using threaded inserts like the ones from GGG to mount your joystick, you may want to add an extra mm for the flange.



For a 3/4" MDF panel with GGG-style threaded inserts, there should be 93.2mm (55mm + 37.2mm + 1mm) between the centers of the holes.

3. Drill a 5mm hole or grind a 5mm flat ~2mm deep for the shaft collar setscrew
- Must be deep enough for the setscrew to be flush with the handle and shallow enough for the setscrew to transfer torque to the shaft
- Go an extra mm deeper if you want to cover the setscrew hole with LS30_Setscrew_Cover.scad.

4. The distance between the bottom edge of the 4mm hole (step 1) and the top of the setscrew flat/hole (step 3) minus 59.5mm (60.5mm if you're using GGG-style inserts) = the actual printed shaft cover height
- This ensures the correct amount of joystick spring tension

5. Cut the top of the shaft 24-25mm from center of the shaft collar set screw hole/flat



6. When the handle is assembled, there should be 38mm from the base of the pivot cone to the center of the 4mm screw hole



-------------
Test print for hardware fit

LS30_Test_Print.scad allows you to check if your Shaft Collar, Set Screw, and Shaft will work with the following variables:
-- ShaftDiameter
-- ShaftCollarHeight
-- ShaftCollarOuterDiameter
-- SetScrewDiameter

Open the file in OpenSCAD.

Make any desired changes to the variables on lines 17 thru 22.
- There must be a ";" after the variable.
-- Think of it like the game "Simon Says".  No ";" = not saying "Simon says" = don't do it.
- "//" indicates a comment or disabled code.

Preview
(toolbar icon or F5)
- If there is a syntax error like a missing ";", preview will crash and flag the next line of code

Render
(toolbar icon or F6)
- Prepares the object for export.

Export as STL
(toolbar icon or File -- Export -- Export as STL . . .)

Print the .STL file

----------
Print parts:
- Handle
- Shaft cover
- Setscrew cover (optional)
- Ikari Warriors dust washer (optional + you might want to paint it)

Like before, open the .scad file, change variables as desired, preview, render, export as .STL, and print the .STL file.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=370937



---------
Assemble the handle:
- Insert and tighten the setscrew so it is completely inside the shaft collar.



- Align setscrew/hole and insert the shaft collar into the handle.



- Loosen the setscrew through the setscrew hole in the handle.
-- If the hole is tight enough to engage the threads on the setscrew, you want it to cut threads from the inside out.
- Insert the shaft into the shaft collar and handle.
- Tighten the setscrew.
- Hold the setscrew cover by the stem to test-fit the cover thickness.

 You may need to sand it or print a thicker cover. (optional)



- Insert the setscrew cover. (optional)
- Apply print smoothing epoxy to the handle, shaft cover, and dust washer.  Allow to cure fully.  (optional)
- Install shaft cover.
- Install dust washer.
- Install pivot cone with the narrow side toward the handle.



- Insert the handle into the body of the joystick.
- Brace the handle against the tabletop and press down on the body to expose the setscrew hole.
- Put the arm loop over the post and place the actuator/coupler on the shaft.
- Align the hole/setscrew and tighten.

-------------
Rotary encoder options:

- KADE miniArcade 2.0 firmware (rotary + keyboard buttons, two sticks)
-- Runs on your choice of 32u4 AVRs
--- MattairTech MT-DB-U4
--- Arduino Leonardo Micro
--- Arduino Leonardo Pro Micro has some pins/ports not connected so it can only handle one joystick

- GGG GP-Wiz40 (rotary + gamepad buttons, two sticks)

- Ultimarc Rotary encoder board (rotary only, you'll need a separate encoder for the buttons and joystick microswitches, fixed keystroke outputs, two sticks)

- Ultimarc U-HID (rotary + keyboard or gamepad buttons)
-- Need to wire 4 diodes to convert the 12-position rotary switch into a quadrature (mouse) waveform.

- KADE miniArcade firmware (original)
-- Minimus AVRs are hard to find

-------------
Mechanical Rotary Joystick Games:
    Battle Field (Japanese version of Time Soldiers)
    Bermuda Triangle
    Dogou Souken a.k.a. Dogosoken (Japanese version of Victory Road)
    Downtown
    Gondomania
    Guerilla War
    Guevara (Japanese version of Guerrilla War)
    Heavy Barrel
    Ikari III - The Rescue (This is the only rotary game that uses three player buttons.)
    Ikari Warriors
    Jackal (Japanese version of Top Gunner)
    Makyou Senshi (Japanese version of Gondomania)
    Midnight Resistance
    SAR - Search And Rescue
    T.N.K. III
    Time Soldiers
    Top Gunner (bootleg)
    Victory Road
    World Wars

-------------
MAME Settings for Mechanical Rotary Joysticks

For mechanical rotary games:

Input (this Game) menu

    Positional Analog to none

Analog Control menu

    Positional Digital Speed = 0
    Positional Sensitivity = 100


Scott
« Last Edit: September 10, 2018, 08:04:17 pm by PL1 »

lilshawn

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6128
  • I break stuff...then fix it...sometimes
Re: 3d printed LS-30 replacement handle for the Happ Rotary Joystick
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 08:16:03 pm »
One of these days I'll get myself a 3D printer... in the last 10 years i can think of at least 50 things I could have just printed out.

Nice work  :cheers:

PL1

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 6833
  • 2013 UCA Awardee
Re: 3d printed LS-30 replacement handle for the Happ Rotary Joystick
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 08:21:51 pm »
One of these days I'll get myself a 3D printer... in the last 10 years i can think of at least 50 things I could have just printed out.

Nice work  :cheers:
Thanks.   :cheers:

Once you get a 3d printer, you'll magically find lots of uses for it.   :lol


Scott

barrymossel

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 372
  • Spectrum
    • forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,157647.0.html
Re: 3d printed LS-30 replacement handle for the Happ Rotary Joystick
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 06:42:07 am »
One of these days I'll get myself a 3D printer... in the last 10 years i can think of at least 50 things I could have just printed out.

Nice work  :cheers:
I just got myself a Creality Eden-3 printer for about $175 and it works like a charm. Really love it.

  
 

Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31