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Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« on: July 18, 2018, 01:00:12 pm »
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/mod-kit-for-nes-controller

So they have drop in replacement pcb's for original snes, nes and 6-button Genesis controllers that have Bluetooth and rechargable batteries. I think they look pretty awesome. What do you guys think?
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2018, 01:08:40 pm »
For $20, I think you're better off spend $25 and getting an SN30.


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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2018, 01:49:42 pm »
Are they at least as good as the original controllers?
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2018, 02:04:32 pm »
I think this is a brilliant move by 8BitDo. I would prefer to have original controllers converted to bluetooth versus having their aftermarket ones. If they can come out with these drop in PCBs (and receivers) for the earlier Sega consoles like the Master System, Genesis, and Saturn and also for the NEC consoles like PC Engine, Turbo Grafx, and Super Grafx I think they could make a ton of money. For the NEC systems, the controllers are almost all identical. That should make it even more compelling for them...

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 02:18:33 pm »
For $20, I think you're better off spend $25 and getting an SN30.

Esp seeing that the $20 is just for the PCB for the controller and does not include the bluetooth dongle for the connection. SO you need to also buy a $20 dongle device.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 02:20:39 pm »
Are they at least as good as the original controllers?
They are. Especially after the buttons are broken-in more, softening the silicone pads so the buttons are a bit more mushy like your old controllers.  I can't remember how my SNES controllers felt when they were brand new, but I've been using my SN30's a lot lately, mainly for Switch and I've got one that's broken-in pretty nicely and feels very close to my originals.

They are perfect for Octopath Traveller...I'm getting my old Final Fantasy feels here!



I think this is a brilliant move by 8BitDo. I would prefer to have original controllers converted to bluetooth versus having their aftermarket ones. If they can come out with these drop in PCBs (and receivers) for the earlier Sega consoles like the Master System, Genesis, and Saturn and also for the NEC consoles like PC Engine, Turbo Grafx, and Super Grafx I think they could make a ton of money. For the NEC systems, the controllers are almost all identical. That should make it even more compelling for them...
Personally I wouldn't want to do this to my original controllers.  But to do this to the Classic Mini controllers is fine in my books. But still, for a $20 DIY board, I think that's still a bit too expensive.
I think if they knocked down the price by $5 it would be worth it more.

For $20, I think you're better off spend $25 and getting an SN30.
^this.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2018, 03:02:46 pm »
I don't even remember when/how/why I ended up with an SN30 but I regret not taking it out of the drawer sooner.  Works great with my Pi Zero and now I ponder the money I spent on all those HDMI mini consoles.   :P

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 03:14:50 pm »
For $20, I think you're better off spend $25 and getting an SN30.

Esp seeing that the $20 is just for the PCB for the controller and does not include the bluetooth dongle for the connection. SO you need to also buy a $20 dongle device.

Yeah, I would have to buy the dongle. I may buy a couple of Snes pcb's and a Genesis pcb, especially since the latter has partially shorted out wires. I also like that the controllers can do x-input and d-input. I have a bunch of USB converters, but the wires are a PITA.
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2018, 03:16:18 pm »
Thinking about this more, I wouldn't mind doing this mod to an NES Classic Mini controller.

The 8bitdo Bluetooth NES controllers has additional buttons on it (basically making it an SNES controller), which was disappointing because I would have rather a bluetooth controller that is only 2-buttons like the original NES.  With this mod, you can take the NES Classic Mini controller with the proper buttons and upgrade it.

But, I'm curious on how charging works too. Does it connect to that plastic nub that fills the cord hole?

Edit:  Found my answer on their Facebook page:

Quote from: 8bitdo
There is no need to unscrew anything. If you take a look at the LED tube, there is tiny little whole in the centre which functions as the USB port for the special USB cable we provide you with for charging
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2018, 03:25:31 pm »
I got a generic "wireless gamepad" snes clone from amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BDCW923/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's pretty much an 8bitdo, and should probably work with the 8bit dongles as it's a generic hid gamepad.  As-is it works for the snes/nes classic and the pc.  It feels fairly identical to a real snes pad except the select and start buttons oddly aren't rounded on the top.  I like the fact that they mapped the buttons on the pc like a xb360 controller, so start and select work properly for most games.  Keep in mind I bought this when it was 14 bucks though.

I like the idea of the pcbs on jankly, busted up gamepads, but I wouldn't use them on my good stuff.  Honestly what kills the 8bitdo stuff is the fact that they don't include the dongle with the purchase of a gamepad. 

opt2not:  For the nes classic just go to allied express.... you'll find wireless gamepads that are identical to the nes gamepad (except for the Nintendo logo) for 12 bucks.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2018, 03:47:15 pm »
From the videos 8BitDo has on their website, the old PCB pops out of the controller and the new one slips in. There is no modification of the controller whatsoever. Given the fact that nothing gets "hacked up" in the process, I wouldn't mind doing this mod in any of my gamepads. It could all be reversed at any time. I do agree that the price seems a little high. I'm sure the rechargeable battery and "proprietary" charging cable add a lot to the cost. I have a feeling these things will end up on eBay for a lot cheaper like most of 8BitDos controllers.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 05:01:03 pm »
I got a generic "wireless gamepad" snes clone from amazon

If that thing actually works with both the SNES Classic and a PC then it's got more functionality than the 8bitdo controllers. 

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2018, 08:16:10 pm »
Yeah it works great.  Beat Mega Man X with it a couple of weeks ago.  You just have to pair it when switching for pc to console and you just press down + start for that. 

Btw for the 8bitdo fans I saw the dongles for $12 on amazon this morning.  Isn't that kind of cheap?

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2018, 08:49:32 pm »
Btw for the 8bitdo fans I saw the dongles for $12 on amazon this morning.  Isn't that kind of cheap?
That's for the classic mini dongle.  The NES (original) dongle is still $20...

Anyway, I was able to pick up a NES classic mini controller for $10 on ebay. Brand new, official controller. Went to the 8bitdo site to grab the Mod Kit for NES, proceeded to check-out and noticed these are shipping from China!  Great.  That means if you want it in any reasonable shipping time, it'll cost you $20+.  :timebomb: But 7-15 business days for China E-packet shipping is $3.99.

Looks like I'll be waiting to do this mod for a little while then. But at the end of the day, to get a new controller with the proper amount of buttons, that has the Nintendo branding, and bluetooth connectivity is going to cost me $33.98.   That doesn't include the NES dongle!

Yes, the aliexpress clones are much cheaper, but honestly I always try to avoid purchasing Chinese clones whenever I can.

EDIT:   I can grab the NES dongle on ebay for $10.  Again, shipping from China.
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2018, 07:13:30 am »
Opt, let us know what you think of the kit and the installation process once the slow boat from the far east arrives. I've got the 4 button (N30?) controller that looks like a NES gamepad and might consider selling that and picking up this kit instead. Like you said, it would be nice to have a controller with the proper buttons and the Nintendo logo on it. Definitely would look and feel more authentic.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2018, 11:54:30 am »
I love my N30 Pro for my Pi.  They work well but get uncomfortable after 3+ hours of play.  I'm considering upgrading to SN30 Pro G Classic Edition.  Looks like it will work better for extended play on N64 and PSX games.  Just bums me they don't have a NES color scheme.  Just a Famicom, Super Famicon, and SNES color scheme.  Might be able to mod the buttons and what not.

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 02:57:57 pm »
Received my kit yesterday, surprisingly fast! Just about 2 weeks for the cheapest shipping from China.

Comes with the PCB, a screwdriver for taking apart your controller, a USB charge cable that has a custom plug, and an easy to follow instruction sheet.


I went with a brand-new NES Classic controller, rather an modding my old original. Some familiar looking parts in here:


Installation is easy, drop-in, took no more than 5 mins.
The custom usb charging nub/port fills the hole in the shell that was for the controller's cable, acts is both a connection port and an LED indicator.


Functionally the controller is the same as my SN30, from selecting modes on power-up, syncing, and powering off. I played a bunch of Salamander, Gradius II, and Mega Man 2 in the few hours I had for testing it, and I didn't feel any lag.  I did have to update the firmware on my NES Retro Receiver to get it to synchronize with the controller. So if you guys are using this on original hardware make sure your Receiver is updated.

Next I'll see how it feels on the Switch, I've been playing a bunch of Pocket Rumble lately and it's a 2-button fighter that would be perfect with an NES controller. I usually prefer an arcade stick when playing fighting games, but this game was built with a pad in mind.

Overall I'm really happy with this kit!

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2018, 09:59:42 am »
Thanks for the write-up Opt. Looks like a pretty cool piece of kit. Hopefully they make these for other controllers and also make receivers for systems like the Genesis/PC Engine/etc. There’s definitely market out there...

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2018, 10:20:34 pm »
Wow, that looks really neat. Thanks for sharing, opt2not.
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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2018, 02:49:33 am »
I don't even remember when/how/why I ended up with an SN30

Bruh  :'(

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Re: Bluetooth mod kit for original controllers from 8bitdo
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2018, 04:32:57 am »
Great write up opt.

I emailed 8bitdo the other day asking if they will be doing neo geo controller replacements anytime soon and they said they would pass my request onto the dev team.

They seem to be giving retro gamers what they need so ime quietly hopeful!

  
 

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