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« on: August 01, 2017, 09:38:10 pm »
Well its time to start writing up my progress on this project.

Everything documented here wouldn't be possible without this forum...I've never used many of the power tools i purchased and I'm the type of guy who will bleed when I pick up a power tool.

I started ordering parts months ago and now I'm waiting on the final two pieces (I hope)...
A wheel, yes I purchased one and not a pair by mistake and its on a slow boat from China...Thanks amazon
Side art - Phoenix Arcade just did a run and I got a set on order without the TM to be "correct" with the earliest Nintendo builds.

Buttons, coin mechs, bezel retainer, monitor upper & lower support, etc from Mike's Arcade...basically everything from his Nintendo catalog
Marquee, control panel overlay and Bezel as well from Mike's.
I was extremely happy to learn he did a run of DK control panels (after i ordered all the artwork) luckily he sells them with or without the artwork!

Got a repro coin door from The Arcade Shop.

And now it begins taking the Gaetan 1.1 plans to staples to print out at full size for tracing the sides onto some 1/2 in MDF.


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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2017, 09:40:06 pm »
Cutting out the MFD wasn't bad but, next time I'll probably use birch plywood.

Never used a router but time to learn...Used a bearing bit to make a copy of the first.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2017, 09:42:09 pm »
Opps....nothing a little bondo can't fix

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2017, 09:43:41 pm »
Next up is the base...I used ChanceKJ's YouTube video for reference.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2017, 09:50:03 pm »
Using Gaetan's PDF's was a great start but I found his DWG file of more value when referencing specific measurements and digging deeper into the plans.
I used a free reader called DraftSight along with the classicarcadecabinets.com website and the ton of pictures out there to figure out what I'm doing.

The Classic Arcade Cabinets website is AWESOME, plans for a ton of cabs as well as helpful tips on using the DraftSight software.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2017, 09:57:13 pm »
Yesterday, I finished cutting all of the wood.
No pictures...just a bunch of rectangles.

Today was the tough day...routing.

The coin door was cut with a jig saw
The speaker panel wasn't as bad as i thought it would be but thanks to bondo it only took me three tries to get it right.

The monitor supports were cut from 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch birch ply
The bottom was cut from 3/4 inch birch ply
Everything else was from the left over 1/2 inch MDF

The hardest part was the support for the control panel/bezel.
I used 1/2 inch birch laminated together with 3/4 inch birch.
Let it sit over night then used a bearing bit to clean it up.

I'm actually quite surprised that I was able to route this piece...had to stare at it in my driveway for a long time before i figured out how to build a jig to route the control panel side at the funky angle.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2017, 10:05:07 pm »
Took the liberty of adding 3 button holes on the board that goes between the speaker panel and the coin door.
I'll be using black Nintendo buttons that will eventually be programed for something in mame...
The inside of the cabinet will be built to handle all original parts if I'm lucky enough to find them.

Even built a coin box out of 1/2 birch ply that i had left over...
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2017, 10:11:14 pm »
That's it for today...

This week I will be taking the time to dry fit everything...keep my fingers crossed that I wont need to cut or route anything else.

After its dry fit, i will be painting and laminating...more pictures then but basically the inside will be laminated black and the outside will be laminated Radar Scope red.
For all the Nintendo freaks out there (I am one) 1/2 inch MDF + 1/32 on both sides will get me to the magic thickness these were originally.
White 9/16th inch flat T-molding and slot cutter arrived last week...I probably cut the slots before laminating.

https://www.topcabinethardware.com/top-cabinet-hardware/product/4696-s1027t-4x8-v3
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Re: It's On Like Donkey Kong
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2017, 01:37:36 am »
Love it!  :cheers:

Especially the cleverness with the wood thickness.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Added to the Build list on the sticky...
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,144583.0.html

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2017, 12:58:55 pm »
Let me know if you have any questions.

Cuz Chance is the only one who has built a DK cb on here....

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2017, 01:16:33 pm »
no :P just offering help.

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2017, 02:34:13 pm »
Let me know if you have any questions.

Cuz Chance is the only one who has built a DK cb on here....

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2017, 02:35:21 pm »
Let me know if you have any questions.

Cuz Chance is the only one who has built a DK cb on here....
Chance gotta Chance.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2017, 07:32:22 pm »

For all the Nintendo freaks out there (I am one) 1/2 inch MDF + 1/32 on both sides will get me to the magic thickness these were originally.


Nice.   :cheers:

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 10:57:57 pm »
Hit a snag today that will delay the project by a week...After I posted yesterday, i refreshed my CL searches and this came up...

Mario Brothers
75 miles away but it was funny the reaction when he saw my car.
Similar to when i get our Christmas tree last year...your going to put this into a Porsche?

Yep...
Its not in great shape but something to dork with for a while

What do you think? Its all there but, I don't think its a Sanyo 20EZ in there.
The game sound is fine but, there is no background music...not sure if there ever was but I'll dig in this week and see whats up

Enjoy,
Ron


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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2017, 10:59:14 pm »
and he threw in a monitor that's been sitting in his garage for years


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Re: It's On Like Donkey Kong
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 11:27:10 pm »
Can't Kick it can ya :dunno

   

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 02:47:24 am »
Nice find! Congrats:)

Thats most definitely a 20EZ inside the cab. Missing its flyback cage, which must be why the little red/brown video inverter board is up on the side wall and not mounted on the monitor frame. The other monitor is a WG. Or.. well, parts of one.

The obvious shows that it looks like you're missing the bezel, lower bezel bracket, and some place down the line someone put black t-moulding on to replace the white. Easy fixes. Same with that control panel, im betting the joysticks could use a cleaning (we have a video for that on the channel), (why is EVERY Mario Bros PAK CPO cut right like that and chipping away??... so odd). I'd be curious to know if it has 3 bolt holes or 5 on the sides. 3 and it started life as a Popeye, 5 and it was a DK, My money is on 5. (Unless i missed something obvious in the pictures, but its late here and i'm viewing them on my phone. :) ).

All in all it looks like its in decent shape. The plywood cabs always seemed to hold up better then the particle board ones. As mentioned before, the Gaetan plans are derived from my plywood DK so everything on your scratch build should line up very close to this new one. Mind you we did just find some crazy differences between the plywood and particle board cabs. Once that even i haven't noticed living with one of each sitting side by side for the better part of 2 years. So i wouldn't be surprised.

Whats really interesting to me is the red area on the side of the power supply. I cant tell in the picture but is that painted? Or does it look like it was made from scrap of a red DK/Radarscope cab?
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Re: It's On Like Donkey Kong
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 03:02:10 am »
Theres no consistent music playing in game. Just the odd little gingle before levels and mixed in the tutorial screens.

https://youtu.be/ly8DofqCuOs
(I think that video is from mame)

If you are still thinking you have sound issues check this out.

https://youtu.be/cX9t-GhD6qU

Im in no way a PCB tech, but if need be i can crack open my Mario Bros and compare my known good board set.

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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 04:21:14 pm »
After cleaning it today, its not in that bad of shape.

Yep, its got the EZ with pac man burn in

marquee is cracked but not too noticable
missing side art, bezel, lower bezel retainer, & service switch.
needs:
new black cardboard
cp overlay
a few buttons

all easily fixed...not bad overall for 34 years old

probably going to move it inside and let the kids run it for a while before i work on the cabinet.
Ordered a high score save kit already

@Chance...its orange scrap from DKJ...What color buttons were in this? The interwebs pictures are all over the place
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 06:39:09 pm »
https://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=PBSET-TMA

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2017, 03:49:21 pm »
Ready to try laminating the inside of the cab

In theory, the painters tape will be cut away leaving fresh wood for junction points

Added a few alignment holes for the other side



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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2017, 09:10:06 pm »
Bit off more than I can chew tonight

Lessons learned:
When cutting laminate, put painters tape over the cut line and cut thru the middle...without, you can easily tear it.
I used heavy duty kitchen scissors.

Also, it's thin but still too thick to do complex cuts, I went back and took off the tape everywhere except where the blocking will be.

I don't know if the blocking will get a strong adhesion to the laminate so I am still going to try and trim

I have not glued yet so if anyone has experience on whether or not to trim the blocking areas let me know...I plan on glueing in the am

Thanks
Ron


Pic with less trimming Area



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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 01:40:12 pm »
So the tape was a good idea but had to cut with my router. Simply traced the blocking onto the laminate with pencil.
I wanted a bit of wiggle room so I used a 1/4 bit and routed thru my lines to give me 1/8 all the way around.

The tape aided in letting me pull off the laminate that wasn't needed then I cleaned up by 1/64 freehand with the router.

I see the value of a cnc setup now...wish I had access to one



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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2017, 04:33:35 pm »
Laminating is done and assembly begins

Pro tip...when laminating I found it easier to do the edges first then the tops...the edges come out much nicer



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