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What default port assignments would you prefer for Mapper?

Set the ports to blank.  That will prompt users to either assign ports or load a mapping (.DAT) file.
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Make mapping (.DAT) files and pinout images for the Arduino boards.
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Both of the above.
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Doesn't matter.  It's easy to load a .DAT file and/or reassign ports.
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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #120 on: April 28, 2020, 12:28:49 am »
I regret to inform you that the Arduino Pro Nano uses a 328P processor, not a 32u4 processor -- 328P boards won't work with this firmware.

Sorry, got the names mixed up, I did order the Pro Micro  :applaud:

Thanks for the explanation. I will use blank.dat and have it recognize as a HID keyboard in that case!

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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #121 on: May 19, 2020, 08:29:14 pm »
I got given two original Kades off a mate.
Those old Minimus boards and the Loader program are great.   ;D



Are these encoders still supported and is there a website that doesn't ask me to install malware before going to it?
The official KADE site is now at http://www.kadevice.tk. (It was .com, then .net, and now it's .tk.  ::) )
- If it changes domain again, I'll update the URL in the KADE-compatible AVR vendors list thread linked in my sig.

It's not what you'd call an active site, but all of the old pages/threads/posts are still available.
- Pretty sure that the new account signup process got broken when Bruno moved the site to the new domain or updated the forum software.
- Your best bet to get questions answered is to ask here on BYOAC.

Download the Loader program at http://www.kadevice.tk/loader/setup.zip.

You can find the quickstart guide at http://www.kadevice.tk/kade-miniarcade/quickstart-guide/index.html.

Also can I connect a trackball and spinner to them?
You can connect a trackball for use with the XBox firmware or a trackball and spinner for use with the two trackball-specific firmwares, BUT I would advise against it due to major problems with backspin if you're using medium to high resolution encoder wheels.

Optical controls are the one thing that KADE encoders attempted, but didn't do well.   :embarassed:

You'd be far better off using an Opti-Wiz 3 from GGG or StefanBurger's Illuminated Spinner firmware (Firmware .hex file here on Thingiverse) on a Pro Micro.


Scott

Thanks for the help.  I managed to program the Kade but I have been given a two Player Mortal Kombat 1Up cabinet from a mate.

I want to put my old Xbox in the cabinet and I saw that the Kade can control it.  One side is for Xbox and the other player side is for PC for Single Player.

Can I use the four remaining inputs from the Player two joystick so I can play games like Robotron and Crazy Climber, as I do so now with the xbox controller using the analogue sticks, or is Kade just a single use programmed encoder or do I need to enable something special to get the analogue controls to work?  Like the Shift Function?  Currently I have B7-10 for Analogue Stick Right and the other setup for DPAD,  I'm hoping that will work.

Does the Kade allow me to use LED buttons and is there a way to animate them?

Can I hot swap between the Xbox and PC controls if I add the other Kade for Player two? I have two zero delay encoders for the PC side (two players) and two Kades for the Xbox (two players) by using the volume controls on the Arcade 1UP to select between paired encoders (using a a 4pdt switch)  One player (sharing the two player joystick) is the default option and would like to swap between Xbox and PC without having to program them every time.  I know they are both USB and was hoping there was a hybrid function.  Similar to hacking a PC keyboard for the PC controls and using a Xbox PS2 Keyboard and Mouse adapter.  Obviously I cannot have both machines on at the same time, but they are voice controlled via Alexa and smart plugs. Its been a bloody nightmare wiring this all up.

Thanks.

I just had a thought:  would it be easier to have each Kade programmed for Xbox and PC respectively and wire it up for 6 buttons and 2 joys for each set, and do away with the zero delay encoders? What is the limit for inputs on this Kade?

p.s.  What if I use the PSX firmware option and wire up both Xbox and PC to use the analogue controls?  Will that work instead?
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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #122 on: May 22, 2020, 10:23:34 am »
Does the Kade allow me to use LED buttons and is there a way to animate them?
You'll need a separate LED controller board to animate the LEDs.

The "LED Sequence (Demonstration)" firmware is as far as Jon ventured into LED controller firmwares with the old Minimus boards.


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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #123 on: November 02, 2020, 07:56:04 pm »
Hey guys,

very excited getting this flashed onto a Pro Micro. One question:
I have a Astro City control panel I want to wire up, which in total would be 24 buttons. I don't fully understand how to wire the shift function to access additional buttons - or is this not possible with the Pro Micro?

Thanks,
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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #124 on: November 02, 2020, 09:59:12 pm »
I have a Astro City control panel I want to wire up, which in total would be 24 buttons. I don't fully understand how to wire the shift function to access additional buttons - or is this not possible with the Pro Micro?
The Pro Micro has 17 regular inputs plus the shift input so a total of 24 buttons isn't impossible however a setup with joy + 6 buttons for 2 players needs 20 regular (unshifted) joystick and player button inputs.
- Consider either using two Pro Micros or a 32u4 AVR with 20 (or more) regular inputs. (Teensy 2.0, Arduino Micro, Adafruit ItsyBitsy, etc.)

The User Guide covers shifted functions on pages 3, 10, and 11.

Port D7 (32u4 pin 27) is the input you use to access the shifted functions.

You can do that with either a dedicated shift button or by using diodes with dedicated admin buttons.

With a dedicated shift button, you'll press shift and another button to output the shifted function.



If you use diodes, you only need to press one button to output the shifted function.
- Pressing "P1 Start" button (yellow) triggers the shift and "P1B1" (red) inputs.



If possible, try to limit shifted functions to admin buttons -- less chance of accidently triggering an unintended shifted function during 2-player gameplay.
i.e. P1 Coin as a shifted function of P1 Start and Exit as a shifted function of Pause.


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Re: KADE miniArcade 2.0 beta release
« Reply #125 on: November 03, 2020, 02:08:11 pm »
Awesome, thats helpful thanks! I will just get a second Micro Pro for Player 2, that makes it easy..