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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2017, 11:32:05 am »
Here a marquee thought - check out Nephasth's Two-Headed Beast. It has a marquee box that you could fab as an add-on. 
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2017, 11:37:50 am »
You could weld an eye hook to the top.

Get a long chain and have yourself a nice battleship anchor that plays Galaga.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2017, 01:07:29 pm »
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You could weld an eye hook to the top. Get a long chain and have yourself a nice battleship anchor that plays Galaga.

You already got your shot in. No need to turn the screws more.
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2017, 01:54:46 pm »
Let's face it - BYOAC can be quite harsh and there are 1 or 2 that get a kick from laying the boot in. Others are just of the persuasion to "tell it like it is" and some read between the lines and are a bit more mindful with their comments. I've found myself on the wrong side of 1 or 2 nefarious characters over the years and I just have to remind myself "there's always ****s."

I think the majority of cutting comments are a playful ribbing rather than hateful venom. Mind you there's always the 1%.

Personally, I was stuck by the uniqueness of an all metal cab (cue someone producing a BYOAC link from 1976 entitled "The Pleasure Machine") so kudos for that and bet it took some work. But I, too, wasn't a fan of the aesthetic.

Next time - get the whole of BYOAC to agree a contracted and signed (in blood) final brief before starting a build. The ---smurfs--- can't moan then...

Now where's me fridge magnet?
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2017, 02:07:13 pm »
If it was a passion project I wouldn't be harsh at all. He is trying to make a quick buck with the smallest effort possible. There is a big difference. This isn't going in his living room.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2017, 02:18:13 pm »
If it was a passion project I wouldn't be harsh at all. He is trying to make a quick buck with the smallest effort possible. There is a big difference. This isn't going in his living room.

You are right and wrong on both accounts. It is not going into my living but it is going in my man cave with my multicade. Secondly there is no such thing as a quick buck on a project like this. There was a lot of hours put into 3D models ,creating sheet metal flat , programming the laser to burn them, setting up and running all the bends through the press brake, pressing all the hardware in, welding the corners, grinding, spot welding, and assembly after powder coat. This is a passion project , but I think it maybe unique enough to set it apart from other cabinets.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2017, 02:23:28 pm »
Yerp - I also get the 'quick buck' thing. There's a fine line between capitalisers and passionate suppliers. If you're just knocking off crap to make easy money then I wouldn't even dignify their posts with a response. Are we sure that's what this guy was looking to do, however? Maybe I should read closer, but I wonder if he was just entertaining the ridiculous fantasy that some of us occasionally fall prey to occasionally "hey I could give up my day job and become an arcade machine building artisan." I am just as guilty, although, after being 4 years in on my first cab, I'd be very hungry.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #87 on: March 31, 2017, 02:35:26 pm »
What got me is the first suggestion was to radius the edges. His immediate reaction was that it was going to cost extra money. I save my verbal arrows for people like this guy. He already had a bunch of these monstrosities lined up like robot invaders from an anime video. He wasn't asking for suggestions, he was fishing for customers.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2017, 02:43:53 pm »
What got me is the first suggestion was to radius the edges. His immediate reaction was that it was going to cost extra money. I save my verbal arrows for people like this guy. He already had a bunch of these monstrosities lined up like robot invaders from an anime video. He wasn't asking for suggestions, he was fishing for customers.

I had three units. One was for me , one was for the guy who was helping me, and the other is what we call in fabrication as a setup part. The setup part is the first part through each operation to help tweak the machine. Cost is a concern if I choose to sell my idea to others, and not as a replacement to my day job. Just for fun money. So if you still want to hate then keep drinking your Haterade and keep hating. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2017, 02:47:00 pm »
If it was a passion project I wouldn't be harsh at all. He is trying to make a quick buck with the smallest effort possible. There is a big difference. This isn't going in his living room.

You are right and wrong on both accounts. It is not going into my living but it is going in my man cave with my multicade. Secondly there is no such thing as a quick buck on a project like this. There was a lot of hours put into 3D models ,creating sheet metal flat , programming the laser to burn them, setting up and running all the bends through the press brake, pressing all the hardware in, welding the corners, grinding, spot welding, and assembly after powder coat. This is a passion project , but I think it maybe unique enough to set it apart from other cabinets.


That's how it always goes...with anything.  A lot of people can't see beyond what's simply in front of them and recognize the amount of thought and work it takes to make what they are looking at.  That said, people are unique in that not everybody else digs what everybody else does.  Your design has kind of a utilitarian European look to it....like IKEA would make it.  Some people would like that. 

You posses metal skills that many of us don't have here, and are doing something unique and different.  Not sure I've ever seen an all metal arcade cabinet scratch build on this board....because working with that material is a whole different animal that requires a whole different skill set.   Definitely much harder than wood or fiberglass. 

I work in autobody, I know some incredible metal fabricators....guys that can make complete reproduction 1930s Ford fenders from a flat sheet of metal....by hand; boggles my mind.

So I give you credit for being innovative for sure and definitely keep pushing through your design and I look forward to seeing what you come up with! 


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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2017, 02:49:40 pm »
If it was a passion project I wouldn't be harsh at all. He is trying to make a quick buck with the smallest effort possible. There is a big difference. This isn't going in his living room.

You are right and wrong on both accounts. It is not going into my living but it is going in my man cave with my multicade. Secondly there is no such thing as a quick buck on a project like this. There was a lot of hours put into 3D models ,creating sheet metal flat , programming the laser to burn them, setting up and running all the bends through the press brake, pressing all the hardware in, welding the corners, grinding, spot welding, and assembly after powder coat. This is a passion project , but I think it maybe unique enough to set it apart from other cabinets.


That's how it always goes...with anything.  A lot of people can't see beyond what's simply in front of them and recognize the amount of thought and work it takes to make what they are looking at.  That said, people are unique in that not everybody else digs what everybody else does.  Your design has kind of a utilitarian European look to it....like IKEA would make it.  Some people would like that. 

You posses metal skills that many of us don't have here, and are doing something unique and different.  Not sure I've ever seen an all metal arcade cabinet scratch build on this board....because working with that material is a whole different animal that requires a whole different skill set.   Definitely much harder than wood or fiberglass. 

I work in autobody, I know some incredible metal fabricators....guys that can make complete reproduction 1930s Ford fenders from a flat sheet of metal....by hand; boggles my mind.

So I give you credit for being innovative for sure and definitely keep pushing through your design and I look forward to seeing what you come up with!

Thanks for the encouragement

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2017, 02:52:50 pm »
he was fishing for customers.

I hate it when people come on this board and try to sell me arcade stuff.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2017, 03:12:26 pm »
I don't mind salesmen. Just be upfront about it. I guess people think I was too harsh. Try pitching an idea in an actual business environment some time. I will lay off this thread because I respect the opinions of a bunch of the people that posted here.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2017, 06:01:03 pm »
I don't mind salesmen. Just be upfront about it. I guess people think I was too harsh. Try pitching an idea in an actual business environment some time. I will lay off this thread because I respect the opinions of a bunch of the people that posted here.
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #94 on: March 31, 2017, 09:15:24 pm »
Why did I not open this thread when I noticed it earlier???  I now have to live with never having seen this, now legendary, cabinet?  C'mon bro, post a pic for the latecomers.   :cheers:

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #95 on: March 31, 2017, 11:10:05 pm »
I think it's actually a clever marketing scheme to build buzz. I think Mike A is astroturfing.
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2017, 04:47:13 am »
Yeah. This fella works for Nintendo.

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« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2017, 08:46:56 am »
I heard he worked for Sega.
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #98 on: April 01, 2017, 09:52:13 am »
To be honest, an all metal cab isn't 100% practical (and I'm all for metal). A metal/wood hybrid cab would be the way to go to achieve some fantastic aesthetics.
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2017, 10:54:05 am »
I heard he worked for Sega.

Both as bad as each other:



To be honest, an all metal cab isn't 100% practical (and I'm all for metal). A metal/wood hybrid cab would be the way to go to achieve some fantastic aesthetics.

Agreed. You get some quality hardwood trim mixed with some brushed aluminium or brass - cool beans.

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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #100 on: April 01, 2017, 11:03:18 am »
Props for the poll - and hell yeah dude - post them pictures.  I am sure you put a lot of time an effort into this, and frankly, who the fudgesickle cares if folks rip on your design?  Trying something new is never a guarantee of success, quite the contrary.  Gotta break 'dem eggs to make an omelette :)

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« Reply #101 on: April 01, 2017, 11:04:28 am »
I heard he worked for Sega.

Both as bad as each other:



To be honest, an all metal cab isn't 100% practical (and I'm all for metal). A metal/wood hybrid cab would be the way to go to achieve some fantastic aesthetics.

Agreed. You get some quality hardwood trim mixed with some brushed aluminium or brass - cool beans.
What I really want to do for my mancave unit is get a wrap done to make it look like a terminal PC out of Fallout 4 or a Blue and yellow Vault-Tec theme but I am not sure how to go about that process.

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« Reply #102 on: April 01, 2017, 11:31:30 am »
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but I am not sure how to go about that process.

Scrounge some parts for the monitor and keyboard. Take really good measurements of 'em. Draw up a plan. If you can do that... you can figure out the rest as you go. The art of the start... gotta start somewhere, and paper's cheap. I've always found that as soon as I just start getting things down on paper, I start figuring out what else I'll need to do. I write up a plan, take notes as I figure stuff out.
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« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2017, 06:46:15 pm »
Props for the poll - and hell yeah dude - post them pictures.  I am sure you put a lot of time an effort into this, and frankly, who the fudgesickle cares if folks rip on your design?  Trying something new is never a guarantee of success, quite the contrary.  Gotta break 'dem eggs to make an omelette :)

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« Reply #104 on: April 01, 2017, 07:53:31 pm »
Paint 'em up like this and sell 'em to dudes who want 'em for their "man caves"...
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Re: New Cabinet - All Metal Design
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2017, 10:03:28 pm »
Is it me or is the OP totally ignoring the good advice given on this thread......

I mean the majority has spoken on the original design, mr. horse style.





I'm just not understanding the logic here, if you say it took a ton of man hours to make this, at a low cost, this means you over-engineered a box my man.

I would of taken and fabricated the appropriate profile, and engineered something worth posting.  The problem here is you took the hobby element and made it a business.  A hobbyist tends put the expense piece secondary as the primary protocol is to take a vision and make is a reality.

TBH sir, if you stuck in the mud hole on this one due to funds, put it out there, Corybee was selling his slop for hundreds and thousands of dollars.  He did get better with time and started building some cool stuff.  There is no sweet talking this up bro, it's slop with the potential of being something cool.

Instead of pitching a product, you should of as stated before, posted the build pics, showing your craftsmanship with metal, and at that point, folks would appreciate this more behind what you actually did.

People learn from your experience and then the slop box wouldn't of taken such a hit.   :soapbox:

I'm kinda seeing that you didn't want help, you wanted verbal support that this idea was golden.

I hope you can pull it off, if you decide to move forward.
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