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Author Topic: Anyone got Golden Tee Four complete to work with i3-6100 (is it just a dream)?  (Read 2291 times)

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Just built a new computer just for mame and used an i3-6100 with a GTC950 graphic card and was hoping to run Golden Tee Four complete. But when I did a search everyone is saying you need  a top of the line i7 or you are out of luck. Is this true, anyone have a different experience? :dunno

Why can I run a Pc game at 100% but cant run a mame golf game? :banghead:
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the reason is simple in its answer but complex at the same time.
gt-complete along with all of the green/red its-gamming boards ran 2 processers
1 ran the front end
1 ran the back end
how I mean this is , why the answer is simple and complex
1 front end would do all of the normal house keeping (bios-ram-security)
1-back end would run the real world stuff (hard drive /controls/video out/audio out) all of them sub systems
the pair hand shanked a lot , plus there is very little ram used in the green/red board
so it is very micro intentesive

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Why can I run a Pc game at 100% but cant run a mame golf game? :banghead:

why do I need an overclocked 5hz CPU to play wii games, when the Wii has a crappy 750 mhz CPU?!?!

It's because you are asking a computer with a simple instruction set (PC), to do something a complex instruction set computer does (GT hardware). A complex instruction CPU has custom instructions to do multiple complex operations by just saying one command. (like load this data from this memory spot, do some math to it... and then write it back.) This command can take several times more cycles to complete on a SI CPU not including the wasted cycles waiting for a slower bus.

this is what an emulator does. it takes those simple commands and blows them out into their individual commands and applies those individual commands to the CPU it it native language to get the work done.

it's like having a mould for bricks to make a castle. the GT compete computer has a mould that does whole walls at a time....A PC has a mould that does one brick. so you have to mould one brick many many times over to build the castle. thus needing a crapton of horsepower to make up for the many many times more operations you must do to accomplish the same task.

in a nutshell, the game is highly optimised for the hardware it runs on. trying to convert it on the fly to run on some other random hardware takes a pile of extra work. The advantage of Complex instruction set CPUs being, that you don't need a super expensive high speed CPU to make your game work. The disadvantage being, that you are limited by what your CPU can actually do without redesigning the CPU with additional commands.

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Change the monitor resolution dip switch to low if you haven't already.  It will be much less demanding. It runs just about perfect on my i5-3550 which certainly isn't top of the line.

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golden tee still has sound stutter and video codic problems at lesser cpu power

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I checked and my i3 6100 is 11% faster than a i5 3550 for single thread applications. Is Golden tee four complete a single thread application on mame? ???
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if this will up-load it may help u understand

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now understand R. Belmont
dose a very good job of explaining the path for the micros. even though he tends to lean to a "slave"
it is truly a micro . and if read the full pdf on it (hard to find) but I have it
that sub chip is very busy.. just as Shawn explained

now with mame we can as we call it "ram" up.
this takes care of a few problems..
but in short the higher the pony power the better

btw before anyone thinks about slamming me these 2 micros are true 64bit>>>true<<<

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...simple instruction set (PC), to do something a complex instruction set computer does (GT hardware).

PCs are CISC. Older GT Fore's VR4310 is MIPS, which would be RISC (Reduced Instruction Set). That contradicts your application of the labels to the explanation.

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in a nutshell, the game is highly optimised for the hardware it runs on. trying to convert it on the fly to run on some other random hardware takes a pile of extra work.

Agreed. That's certainly part of it. Another piece is that the PC has cover all of the functions and interconnections of the support chips, which the game's CPU isn't handling at all.

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The advantage of Complex instruction set CPUs being, that you don't need a super expensive high speed CPU to make your game work. The disadvantage being, that you are limited by what your CPU can actually do without redesigning the CPU with additional commands.

CISC gains efficiency through coordination and preparation (gourmet kitchen). RISC gets it from simplicity of execution (dollar menu).