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Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« on: October 09, 2016, 10:43:37 pm »
I purchased a used cocktail cabinet with two of these PS2 encoders.  I haven't been able to identify them, or figure out how to program them.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated.



The text on the chip is:
    CY7C63513-PVC
    C  02  PHI  0405
    CYP605362

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Re: Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 03:21:01 am »
Looks like a mini PAC from Ultimarc.

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Re: Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 04:32:50 am »
Welcome aboard, Strydyr.   ;D

Here are some diagrams and pinouts that you may find useful.   :cheers:

Looks like your encoders are really old Mini-Pacs, before the USB and ALT-Rom jumpers were added, but I think the rest of the info should be good.

Mini-Pac




Mini - Pac Wiring Guide

By Mayhem


40 Pin Connector x = polarizing Key
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-- 0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 --
-- x  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 --
________________________________________________________________

40 Pin Connector numbered - X = polarizing Key

_________________________________________________________________
-- 2  4  6  8  10 12 14 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 --
-- X  3  5  7  9  11 13 15 17 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 37 39 --
_________________________________________________________________


Connector Pin 40, Ground 1 (Optical Only)
[Not used] Pin 39
Trackball X TX1 Pin 38
Trackball X Ground 1 (Power harness)
Trackball X +5v 1 (Power harness)
Trackball X TX2 Pin 37
Trackball Y TY1 Pin 36
Trackball Y Ground 2 (Power harness)
Trackball Y +5v 2 (Power harness)
Trackball Y TY2 Pin 35
Spinner data Pin 34
Spinner data Pin 33
Spinner Ground 3 (Power harness)
Spinner +5v 3 (Power harness)
Top Colour Group Mouse Left Grey Pin 32
Mouse Right Purple Pin 31
Coin-P1 Black Pin 30
Coin-P2 White Pin 29
Start-P1 Red Pin 28
Start-P2 Brown Pin 27
P1 Left Yellow Pin 26
P1 Right Orange Pin 25
P1 Up Blue Pin 24
P1 Down Green Pin 23
P1 Switch 1 Grey Pin 22
P1 Switch 2 Purple Pin 21
P1 Switch 3 Black Pin 20
P1 Switch 4 White Pin 19
P1 Switch 5 Red Pin 18
P1 Switch 6 Brown Pin 17
P2 Left Yellow Pin 16
P2 Right Orange Pin 15
P2 Up Blue Pin 14
P2 Down Green Pin 13
P2 Switch 1 Grey Pin 12
P2 Switch 2 Purple Pin 11
P2 Switch 3 Black Pin 10
P2 Switch 4 White Pin 9
P2 Switch 5 Red Pin 8
P2 Switch 6 Brown Pin 7
P1 Switch 7 Yellow Pin 6
P1 Switch 8 Orange Pin 5
P2 Switch 7 Blue Pin 4
P2 Switch 8 Green Pin 3
Ground Grey Pin 2
Polarizing “Key” Pin (not used) Pin 1

10 Pin Connector x = polarizing Key

___________________
-- 0  0  0  0  0 --
-- x  0  0  0  0 --
___________________

10 Pin Connector numbered - X = polarizing Key

____________________
-- 2  4  6  8  10 --
-- x  3  5  7  9  --
____________________

X  = polarizing Key
2  = +5 Volts (3)
3  =
4  =
5  = Ground (3)
6  = Ground (2)
7  = +5 Volts (2)
8  = +5 Volts (1)
9  =
10 =


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Re: Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 06:58:49 am »
Thank you both!

I guess these aren't programmable... am I correct in thinking that they should be sending keystrokes without additional software?  If I open notepad and go through all of the buttons on the cabinet, no characters appear.

The only encoder I've had first-hand experience with is the Hagstrom KE72, and these obviously were built with a different goal in mind.





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Re: Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 07:11:06 am »
am I correct in thinking that they should be sending keystrokes without additional software?

I'm feeling a bit foolish... it looks like the problem was with the PS2 port on the computer.

The identification and diagram are extremely helpful, though.

Thanks again!

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Re: Help Needed Identifying a Keyboard Encoder
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 07:20:46 am »
Glad to assist.   :cheers:


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