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Re: Pixel Playcade - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #200 on: November 04, 2016, 08:46:21 pm »
Have you considered using a thinner stock mdf and laminating some 1/4" or 1/8" ply to each side extending past the edges rather than milling your T-molding groove?


Interesting build!  looking forward to seeing more.

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Re: Pixel Playcade - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #201 on: November 05, 2016, 03:58:56 am »
when i first started i did but it wouldve cost more to get 3 parts cut to make up each side.

Now since i need to cut 2 per side and a slot it might be worth looking into.

still i think cutting 2 sheets the way i mentioned before will offer more protection and be cheaper

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Re: Pixel Playcade - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #202 on: November 05, 2016, 07:20:17 am »
Monolith's a rubbish name. What muppet suggested that!?

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Re: Pixel Playcade - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #203 on: November 05, 2016, 08:55:05 am »
Monolith's a rubbish name. What muppet suggested that!?

lol thanks mate. full credits to the whoever that guy is.

posts and credits updated

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #204 on: November 05, 2016, 12:25:43 pm »
Nice one. Do I get a prize?  ::)

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #205 on: November 05, 2016, 12:46:41 pm »
Pixel Play Castle!

A new title reigns over Monolith.

Or..  I have to say it..

Castle PlaySkull.

#nailedit!!!

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #206 on: November 05, 2016, 03:40:00 pm »
This cabinet is the Kim Kardashian of new builds. People are clearly talking about it, but no one's really sure why.
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #207 on: November 05, 2016, 03:40:18 pm »
Oh, there should be a smiley after that post.
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #208 on: November 05, 2016, 05:55:30 pm »
This cabinet is the Kim Kardashian of new builds. People are clearly talking about it, but no one's really sure why.

aw you just want to see photos of my wood bits lol. coming soon.

im participating in a retro gamers market here in my city. ive got a lot to prepare for that and I've had a lot on this week, which has limited my time to work on this build. but every free moment i have is going into this. i will get the wood cut within the next 2 weeks because im hating how long it already has been since i started this build. no matter what the sate of the designs ill get it cut soon and make ammendments as i need them later

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #209 on: November 05, 2016, 06:20:47 pm »

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #210 on: November 06, 2016, 10:20:27 pm »
I think we need a poll to determine the date sawdust will fly.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #211 on: November 07, 2016, 03:08:50 am »
Im not sure we do. Lets take a vote on it...

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #212 on: November 07, 2016, 06:02:22 am »
Let's table that discussion and reconvene in two weeks.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #213 on: November 07, 2016, 06:38:36 am »
So i have some good news...

Ive finally finished the designs today (while at work, If my boss is reading this please dont fire me). I say finished but are they ever really ever going to be finished? who knows. But they are good enough to be cut!! I worked on them whenever i could and added the changes from the prototypes and finished off the control panel.



i know right. what a mess. Didnt end up prototyping the pele ring solution for the joysticks so i ended up using ChanceKJ solution used on Flyn's Arcade. Also sent out emails to the guys that are going to cnc it to find out how they need the files for some of the trickier bits to machine. Got an answer almost right away so tomorrow or later today ill sort that out. Good thing its pay day is in 2 days... just in time.

there are still some lingering issues but i can work them out later including where to put the mounted usb ports and where to put the control pod for the audio. Im using the logitech Z533 and it has a nice control pod that i think ill just mount on the underside of the control panel somewhere so its out of sight



I also suspect that the cables that come with the Z533 might not be long enough to place the speakers and control pod where i want them.

So i figure ill deal with these issues when the come up. I'd rather not cut wired or mod them but i may have to, there's always a solution
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 07:08:11 am by chito »

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #214 on: November 07, 2016, 07:27:32 am »
Are the cnc guys gonna post some pics?

In all seriousness, kudos for going the 3rd party cnc route. Couldn't think of anything more anxiety provoking than signing off on a 'final' car file.

I wouldn't worry about extending audio cables... Will be a cinch.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #215 on: November 07, 2016, 08:35:53 am »
yeah you want to make sure you got it right. If i had one at home maybe I could cut the pieces out as i needed them and make amendments as i go. well the good thing about cad (dxf) files is that the cab now becomes reproducible, can be easily adjusted for any wood thickness, highly accurate and easily changed.

so whats next

Artwork update
So ive searched and collected many samples for a mood board. But the more I look at the cab the more i think it looks better as just plain black. I will however, create a control panel overlay and will definitely create a logo (which has its own mood board).

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #216 on: November 07, 2016, 01:10:29 pm »
A Black Polished Granite veneer?

Guess "monolith" restricts your colour palette a bit.. You can use black, black or black.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2016, 11:49:02 am »
If it ever floods in your area, you can tip the cabinet on its back, and use the control panel for a hydrofoil wing. You'd be the envy of the whole block.
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #218 on: November 23, 2016, 09:55:31 pm »
Update

So its been about 2 weeks since the last post. Thought I would update on the status of this build.

CNC wood cutting
The service who is cutting out the wood for this build, have told me that they are swamped being the end of year and all. In order to get a more accurate quote without the backwards and forwards, he wants me to come into his workshop and go through the build and options available to me.

This delay suits me as I need to get the artwork sorted at the same time as the cut so I can apply the art while I build it.

Artwork
So it was hard to come up with artwork when this build looks a lot like the monolith from 2001: a space odyssey, which was just a plain black slab. But It feels really lazy to just leave as a plain black slab. So I searched and searched around for ideas. I remembered that there are ancient monoliths in Bolivia at a site called Tiawanaku (tiahuanaco). They contain imaginary and are devoted to the sun god INTI.



Seeing as how this will light up and be bright like the sun lol i thought its a good angle. So i spent quite a lot of time (more than i should've) on some concepts. Artwork on the control panel and side is by El-Grimlock.





Anyway ill will try out some other ideas as well but this is all I've got for now. Its a start.

Trip
The fact that the CNC workshop is swamped and that I don't have the artwork ready (which I don't want to rush) along with the fact that I have a holiday in late Jan/Feb that I haven't saved enough for, means ill have to park this build for a bit. I'll be taking my time working on the art till I'm ready to throw money at this build again.

I've already spent about $2.5K on the following
MAME CDs
TV stand
ipac ultimate
keybaord + mouse
Mame HD
Arcade Cab (need to sell)
Cab delivery 
ultimate wiring 
Microcoin QL
speakers
55" TV
Infrared toy
LEDs 5V 5050
LEDS 12V 5050
Camlock
t-moulding samples
Acrylic tube
Groovy gear - test parts
Arcade Paradise - test parts

Still need to Pay for which i estimate at another ($1.5k)
Cnc + materials
Artwork print
buttons + joysticks
t-moulding

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #219 on: November 23, 2016, 10:21:05 pm »
Holy crap. 4k?
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #220 on: November 23, 2016, 10:31:36 pm »

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #221 on: November 23, 2016, 10:34:48 pm »
6 pages no wood, and 4K worth of parts.....


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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #222 on: November 23, 2016, 11:20:07 pm »
Holy crap. 4k?

There's a reason the project name is "go for broke". I knew it would cost a bit. just keep in mind that it's not US dollars. converted its about $2950 USD. Also some products just cost differently in AUS compared to US, for example, the iphone 7 plus is $1,269 AUD where in the US its $769 USD. converted it should be $1043 AUD but its not.

one of the things that was hugely expensive was the delivery from Paradise Arcade. it was like $50 delivery for a button and a few wires.

All hobbies cost money, and im enjoying the process.. i dont mind the cost (it was anticipated, although not this much lol), as long as it doesn't get in the way of other plans. And atm I need to save for my holiday.


6 pages no wood, and 4K worth of parts.....
I know, Im really keen to get the wood and start putting it together. guess it will have to wait for a bit now

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #223 on: November 23, 2016, 11:21:20 pm »
I DO forget you're in Australia, bro.
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #224 on: November 24, 2016, 12:37:21 am »
I DO forget you're in Australia, bro.

The Microcoin QL should have been a giveaway he's not from North America. The Microcoin QL is an Australian made acceptor.


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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #225 on: November 24, 2016, 06:18:05 am »
I like the artwork. The only thing for me is the colour of the fascias. I'm not sure 'sandstone' matches the other artwork. I wouldn't worry too much about the colour - your Aztec (?) symbols relay the idea of that sufficiently enough without having to make it obvious via 'sandstone' Dunno why, but I'd go with a dark reddish/brown/maroon for the fascia. However, I am a man and thus, do not do colour.

Alternatively, you could spend another $4000 and commission a sculptor to carve it out of sandstone for you? That'd save a little on the CNC costs?

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #226 on: November 24, 2016, 08:21:48 am »
oh yeah it totally clashes. its just the artwork came like that, i did some basic edits to make it fit. It was just enough to see if that design could work (final version would have more coordinated colours). The artist who made those images does take commissions so getting something that matched the style and colours would be do-able

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #227 on: November 24, 2016, 09:01:13 pm »
6 pages no wood, and 4K worth of parts.....
To be fair, most of those pages are telling chito that he's wrong.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #228 on: November 25, 2016, 07:30:26 am »
To be fair, most of those people know their stuff.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #229 on: November 25, 2016, 09:30:48 am »
So a few people have expressed their concerns.. its too tall, dont use LEDs like that, cut wood! etc lol. Some of these are technical and some a matter of taste.

If I don't know something I put my hand up and ask for advice. And so far I feel I've got the technical challenges sorted out. I know there will be more once I start putting it together, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Not sure what exactly I'm "wrong" about but if its a question of taste then that's subjective and per each individual to decide. I'm doing something new/not often done here so of course it's going to skew some people and that's cool.

Once this is done and up and running, I know it will look great (maybe not in my apartment though lol). If it wasn't for the holiday I have coming up, I would've had the building part well underway by now. I think that's when people will really see.

I like the artwork. The only thing for me is the colour of the fascias. I'm not sure 'sandstone' matches the other artwork. I wouldn't worry too much about the colour - your Aztec (?) symbols relay the idea of that sufficiently enough without having to make it obvious via 'sandstone' Dunno why, but I'd go with a dark reddish/brown/maroon for the fascia. However, I am a man and thus, do not do colour.

The stone colour was to make it look more ancient monolithic I guess. I edited the colours so the dont clash as much for an updated version of this first concept. looks a little lifeless but I think ill leave this concept there for now and start on some other ideas



And as you said, the symbols are enough to convey "ancient monolith" and had a mood board already for the next concept. I was going to move away from the "accurate" stone colours and just make it look cooler and more like an arcade/game. The following are samples (from Darksiders II concept art) I collected for what I'll go for as a 2nd concept. That is, still ancient stone monolith but way more stylised.



Im also collecting samples for a 3 concept which will be more like ancient meets futuristic... examples would be the temples of Juno in assassins creed, the towers and structures in Halo 4

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #230 on: November 25, 2016, 11:27:50 am »
I think this is going to be awesome.... I can't wait to see this thing together!
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« Reply #231 on: November 25, 2016, 11:31:36 am »
I think this is an amitious undertaking, I hope he pulls it off.  I wouldn't say this is new, cause others before this build have built monsters as well.

If you have the jack, the time, and the patience to get into this hobby, then go all out if you want too.  However the softies should know the cardinal rule, dont post your project if you dont want people to comment.

Once you post your skin better get thick quick.  I respect this man's ambition, do i agree with everything no, but I'm not looking for Mr. Chito to give a rat's ass either.

Think of this as pessimistic / optimistic members that will bring every flaw every and or accomplishment to the table so the builder can see the big picture through multiple suggestions.  Threads like this work in your favor if you ignore the jokes, (and yes they are jokes) glean the good stuff and continue down your own build path.

So for sure your gonna get more 110th page, no wood, too big, why? comments, thing is we keep coming back to see what you've posted, so you must be doing something right.

Now for the comment....

WAIT?  YOUR PUTTING THIS THING IN AN APARTMENT??? WHYYYYYYYYY, YOU WONT BE ABLE TO ENJOY SOUND OF THIS BEAST YOUR NEIGHBORS WONT HAVE IT   :whap
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #232 on: November 25, 2016, 03:25:08 pm »
I'm digging that new beige artwork because its more cohesive across the entire cabinet and makes the lit molding really pop! Some of that concept art is really cool.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #233 on: November 25, 2016, 03:55:45 pm »
Ah - see, this is where personal taste comes in.. I hate the beige - I'd drop it entirely - it looks too much like a hospital from 1972 (specifically - in 1973 they added brown stripes).

However, I am digging the neo-aztecian images below that sea of beige - I'd say go for gold and be bold - slap those badboys onto you facia and sidepanel art. It looks like your display's going to be a hotch-potch anyway, so any worries about clashing is out the window. Those characters/icons turned into vectors and printed in ultra hi-def vinyl would look awesome.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #234 on: November 26, 2016, 03:50:41 am »
Sorry my bad, that price actually included a LAI cabinet I bought (that im trying to sell). so take off $560.

So some items were expensive and sure i could've gone for cheaper parts, but I decided i would go all out for this build. Big Tv, 4 player, wow factor.

For example, the coin mech: sure I could've gone for a basic mechanical $20 coin mech. But instead, I decided on the Microcoin QL which is an electronic coin validator that can take up to 6 different coins/tokens. It also can be programmed to pulse a credit every 60 cents or 2 credits for $1 which is the way it was in AUS when I was growing up and I wanted that. I also have an older microcoin S6 which can do more.

PS here is a vid by Johns Arcade where he visits Raw Trills, the only company left making commercial arcade machines in the US. You'll notice that a lot of the newer games are vertical, have LED t-moulding and lots of lights. he also does a tour of 257 arcade


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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #235 on: November 26, 2016, 07:04:47 am »
I didn't see any arcade games at Raw Thrills, just redemption machines and some kiddie rides pretending to be arcade racing games.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #236 on: November 26, 2016, 12:43:06 pm »
Wow, good thing I don't collect newer Raw Thrills games....
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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #237 on: November 26, 2016, 01:36:31 pm »
I called my cabinet Monolith because it's all black and imposing, like the thing in 2001 Space Odyssey. So good name choice!

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #238 on: November 26, 2016, 01:53:11 pm »
This too started out as a large black imposing object. However, my money's on it finishing as a pink mini bartop called Tim.

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Re: Monolith - 55inch vertical screen - project name "go for broke"
« Reply #239 on: November 26, 2016, 02:34:08 pm »
This too started out as a large black imposing object. However, my money's on it finishing as a pink mini bartop called Tim.

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