Scratch *Fight Like A Girl* MVC Clone

[nanoflower]

Here we go!

I contacted Martijn a while back as I kinda fell in love with his Scratch Slim MVC build.
He was kind enough to share his Sketchup files with me and I've been fine tuning them for some time now (this was before he decided to publish them in his thread)

The most obvious change I made was to shorten the cab - I'm not too tall so I cut it down to 181 cm

This is my first attempt at building an arcade, so hopefully everything will go as smooth as possible.

[nanoflower]

I went to the local print store where my friend work and had the plans printed out in 1:1
The basic idea was to create a routing template that would double as a "hard copy" build plan.


I spray glued the plans to a sheet of 16 mm MDF


I decided to check if my plunge saw was square before rushing in; all looks a-ok


Ready to rock 'n' roll kids






I was asleep at the wheel and managed to cut a piece of one of my benches
Oh well lesson learned.

[nordemoniac]

I guess you've just discovered Googles changes from Picasa. Your pictures are not visible for other people unfortunately, only yourself... All I can see are "Forbidden" symbols. If you have any older pictures where you copied the links through Picasa, they should be working fine. But the new Google Photo sharing system is horrible, and you can't get larger versions of the photos either by copying the image URL like earlier.

I can highly recommend Imgur, they even have a button for "copy paste" on IMG URL's. 
It will save you a lot of the hassle with posting on forums.

[nanoflower]

(...) Your pictures are not visible for other people unfortunately, only yourself... All I can see are "Forbidden" symbols (...)

I can highly recommend Imgur (...)

Thanks man, I did not see that one coming. I have now uploaded my images to Imgur as suggested - I love that site by the way; an easy place to kill 20 minutes-ish 
Hopefully everything is better now?

[nordemoniac]

The first post is OK, still not showing up on second?

[n3wt0n]

Just a suggestion... why not post images to THIS site??? That way when **insert current popular image site** shuts itself down your images will still be here.

[nanoflower]

The first post is OK, still not showing up on second?

Not sure what happened, the links should be good now - not soo smooth a start after all 

[PL1]

I can highly recommend Imgur, they even have a button for "copy paste" on IMG URL's. 

Well, technically, you are right -- you can recommend that.   

It's bad advice for the long-term, but you can recommend it.   

It will save you a lot of the hassle with posting on forums.

So . . . save a few seconds now and who cares about the poor schmuck trying to follow and learn from the thread several years from now?   

At a minimum, please upload any "can't-understand-and/or-duplicate-the-build-without-it" photos to BYOAC.

There have been a number of *previously* well-documented projects like Knievel's classic Woody build that are now much harder to follow and appreciate.   
The Woody thread doesn't even have a finished pic of that beautiful build any more.   


Scott

[Martijn]

Your off to a good start Nano! That cutting template saves a lot of pencil time

I use google photos to upload pictures directly from my iPhone to google. its very easy to use.
My projects where lost as well, but i fixed them all

[nordemoniac]

I can highly recommend Imgur, they even have a button for "copy paste" on IMG URL's. 

Well, technically, you are right -- you can recommend that.   

It's bad advice for the long-term, but you can recommend it.   

It will save you a lot of the hassle with posting on forums.

So . . . save a few seconds now and who cares about the poor schmuck trying to follow and learn from the thread several years from now?   

At a minimum, please upload any "can't-understand-and/or-duplicate-the-build-without-it" photos to BYOAC.

There have been a number of *previously* well-documented projects like Knievel's classic Woody build that are now much harder to follow and appreciate.   
The Woody thread doesn't even have a finished pic of that beautiful build any more.   


Scott

But that's because people delete their photos right? I have been using picasa before, and they are still there. Much simpler with imgur account.
But I do see your point, I just find it a bit easier than updating the dedicated picture thread here. Sorry about that.

[PL1]

But that's because people delete their photos right?

Not always.

IIRC in Knievel's case, he changed hosting companies for his build website.

Apparently it was an incomplete migration to a different server URL.   

I think you can still find some of the pictures from his old site on the Internet Wayback Machine, but AFAIK he hasn't taken the time to recover/re-up the pics and hasn't fixed the links.

I agree with your convenience argument for large galleries, but if you're taking the time to document a build, it makes sense IMHO to take a few seconds extra to "bullet-proof" the important images.

Just picture the position you'd be in if several years from now when you have hundreds (thousands?) more posts than you have now and then imgur goes belly-up. 

How long would it take to fix all of those posts?  Would you be willing to expend the effort?


Scott

[nordemoniac]

True... But if the forum got an update in the future, pictures would be embedded with the posts.
IMHO that's the best option for the future of this site...
 

[nanoflower]

Your off to a good start Nano! That cutting template saves a lot of pencil time

I use google photos to upload pictures directly from my iPhone to google. its very easy to use.
My projects where lost as well, but i fixed them all

Thanks Martijn, that means a lot. The cutting template really is a good idea, as you say it saves you from a lot of pencil work.
The lines and angles are dead straight so hopefully everything will come together nicely when the time comes 

I sawed out a couple of rough profiles, and left some excess material for my router to chew on.


Used carpet tape to stick the template and the rough cuts together and then fired up the router




The result: two identical sides.


Time to router out the t-molding slots - that little ninja shurriken bit is actually kind of scary




Added some t-molding to protect the corners, thank for shipping that my way rablack97 

[PL1]

I can highly recommend Imgur, they even have a button for "copy paste" on IMG URL's. 

True... But if the forum got an update in the future, pictures would be embedded with the posts.
IMHO that's the best option for the future of this site...
 

If you're linking from another server (i.e. imgur), the picture is not embedded with the post, only the URL.

If you don't think that can cause problems, check the Paradise Arcade Shop links and pics in my early posts.

They reorganized their site and broke thousands upon thousands of BYOAC thread links to their products and pics.

If you want to say, "I prefer linking to imgur because it's easier to use", that is your preference and people are free to agree or disagree as they see fit.

If you want to assert that image links to imgur URLs are "the best option for the future of this site", I think that you are ignoring clear evidence to the contrary.

If you meant to say that it would be great if uploading pics to BYOAC was as easy as drag-and-drop or pasting links from imgur then I agree wholeheartedly.   


Scott

[nordemoniac]

What I meant was that the only thing missing on this forum is the ability to set the attachment inline, that way it could be uploaded directly to the posts.
I didn't mean embedded from Imgur.

Atm you have to post pictures to one thread, and link to that from the posts to get them inline.
Instead of just attaching the pictures and putting them inline directly.

If you upload in the post, you end up having all the pictures at the bottom. If you then use the links from them, they are posted twice in the same post.

[PL1]

Very true.   

Inline pic posting is a feature from phpBB (the software used for the KADE Foums) that would be great in SMF. [/thread derail]   


Scott

[Malenko]

If you want to say, "I prefer linking to imgur because it's easier to use", that is your preference and people are free to agree or disagree as they see fit.

Man, if only there were some way to message some one privately, instead of crapping up what is otherwise a nice build thread.

Good work so far Nano, you gonna use your tools to cut a new slab for the bench?
Have you decided on an art direction?

[nanoflower]

Man, if only there were some way to message some one privately, instead of crapping up what is otherwise a nice build thread.

Good work so far Nano, you gonna use your tools to cut a new slab for the bench?
Have you decided on an art direction?

Thank you
Naw, the accidental cut was made on the 'inch' side of the bench and since I use metrics it not a biggie 

I' still trying to figure out a name for the cab and some matching artwork.
The slim design has some limitations to it. Every game character or image I've tested basically get cropped when upscaled
The images has to be tall and slender in order for them to fit, so I guess that's why Martijn chose C.Viper and Ironman for his.

I like fighting games, and initially I was planning to theme it up accordingly

At this point I'm open to suggestions, so if anyone has an idea for a name (pls no 'cade' or 'retro') and a theme it would be most welcome

[nordemoniac]

How did you cut the boards? You have very nice and sharp inner angles, I find that a bit difficult to do.

[nanoflower]

How did you cut the boards? You have very nice and sharp inner angles, I find that a bit difficult to do.

It is not possible to cut sharp inner corners with a plunge saw unless the material you are sawing in is very thin.
The circular blade will missing a bit on the bottom, the thicker the board the more it will stop short.

The trick is to plunge the saw to it's max. depth and then stop your cut as close to the end of the line as possible - It is easy to over cut, so be careful

If you are making a long cut then you'll have to remove the excess wood to prevent it from snapping. I recommend you use a good fine toothed hand saw for that job (I used a Japan saw)
Now you make your second cut and remove the wood just like before.

Then remove the rest using a nice razor sharp and plane chisel
If you take a close look at the second picture you can make out a triangular outline; that is where the MDF I removed used to sit.

[nordemoniac]

Excellent! Thank you for that!! Really helpful 

[nordemoniac]

I' still trying to figure out a name for the cab and some matching artwork.
I like fighting games, and initially I was planning to theme it up accordingly

At this point I'm open to suggestions, so if anyone has an idea for a name (pls no 'cade' or 'retro') and a theme it would be most welcome

How about "RetroCade"? 

As you like fighters, how about "Time To Kill"? (See the double entendre here? )

As the cabinet is slim, you'd either want art that keeps it simple, and highlights it, otherwise you could go with zoomed in pictures, and just cut them. The shape of the cabinet could make it cool!

F.ex. something like this. Maybe a poor choice of artwork, but you get the point.

[Malenko]

Test your Fight!

[Martijn]

Beat 'm up Paradise/Vault/Arch

[vwalbridge]

Thunder dome
Thunder cage
Thunder cat
Thunder blunder

[harveybirdman]

Round 1 Fight
Final Round
Just Push Buttons
Medium Kick
Learn to Block

[thomas_surles]

Ass whooper IV
Nut puncher
Gore lords.

[Martijn]

 

[CaptainTweed]

TATAKAI
Japanese for battle/fight.

[nanoflower]

Thanks for the input guys, you've given me something to think about

I had some laminate sent to me at work, and our receptionist was kind enough to sign for it. I almost crapped my pants when I saw the condition it was in - it was completely mauled.
The receptionist calmed me down and told me that the delivery company was made aware of the problem, and that the damage had been noted on the delivery receipt for insurance reasons.

I called up the store that sent it to me, and told them about the problem. They replaced it, no charge or any fuzz and they didn't even want the battered laminate back.
I decided to inspect the broken laminate, and it turned out that some of it could still be used (sorry forgot to take a pic of the sheets)


The laminate was cut rough using a Dremel tool, but it took for ever and the cutting disc wore down faster than I liked.
A pair of kitchen scissors is the way to go about this. Be sure to leave plenty of overhang as aligning the laminate and MDF can be a tricky.


The laminate and MDF was glued together using some spray on contact cement, and pressed together using regular rolling pin and a lot of bodyweight.
The edges was flush trimmed with the router, and then I went over it again using a j-roller




The laminate really looks good


The inner corners was cleaned using a fresh Stanley knife blade, I took my time as I didn't want it to chip.
I was not sure how to do this, but it worked out great 

[nanoflower]

I spend a few hours messing with Photoshop and I finally decided what to call this project 
This is a very rough mock up and it needs to be hauled through Illustrator to get it nice and crisp

What do you think guys?

[Laythe]

Hah, nice.  I like that art.     

[Martijn]

good start at the art.  any more characters found in that style?

and maybe a little more color.

[nanoflower]

good start at the art.  any more characters found in that style?

and maybe a little more color.

No sadly I didn't find other characters in that style, so I'll probably just slap Chun Li on both sides.
The cab will be standing in my living room, so I need to tone the artwork down a notch due to the Wife Approval Factor... *sigh*

[yotsuya]

[nanoflower]

Haha yea totally 

[sabreerbasAlpha]

Some good progress, keep it up. Its coming on nicely :applaud:Love the T-Shirts also.

[nanoflower]

I cut out the battons for both the profiles using my 1:1 template as a reference


After having cleaned up I decided to go annoy my friend at the print shop again.
I had my control panel and my lower back panel printed out. They prints are mirrored as I'll be glueing these templates to the insides of my MDF

[rablack97]

Added some t-molding to protect the corners, thank for shipping that my way rablack97 

Man that was some time ago, glad you got it and using it now, build looks great. 

[nanoflower]

Man that was some time ago, glad you got it and using it now, build looks great. 

Thanks, and yea it's been a while - where did you get it initially? It has a much nicer red than some of the samples I got from t-molding.com