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A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« on: May 05, 2016, 05:16:36 pm »
Is the nut on leg levelers just to cinch down after you've got them to the desired height and take pressure off the thread? I notice some have them and some don't. Do they always remain on the outside of the cab, not inside? Are levelers ever tightened down from the top, iside cabe, with a bolt and/or washer?
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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 06:27:09 pm »
They go on the outside of the cab.  They are essentially there as "spacers" so that you can't over-tighten them and then not be able to unscrew them.  Think about it, if they weren't there, you'd screw it in all the way, then if you need to unscrew them, it would be difficult to get your finger under there.

Other than that, the nut serves no purpose.  If you were to unscrew the leveler and then have the nut up against the cab tight, you'd still be able to twist the leveler counter-clock-wise and it would loosen the bolt.  I usually have the nut sitting flush with the bottom of the leveler on mine.  Then I can reach under and adjust them as needed.

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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2016, 06:42:56 pm »
They go on the outside of the cab.  They are essentially there as "spacers" so that you can't over-tighten them and then not be able to unscrew them.  Think about it, if they weren't there, you'd screw it in all the way, then if you need to unscrew them, it would be difficult to get your finger under there.

Other than that, the nut serves no purpose.  If you were to unscrew the leveler and then have the nut up against the cab tight, you'd still be able to twist the leveler counter-clock-wise and it would loosen the bolt.  I usually have the nut sitting flush with the bottom of the leveler on mine.  Then I can reach under and adjust them as needed.

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You obviously know nothing about hardware. The nut is there as a lock nut. Once the leveler is adjusted to the desired height, the nut is tightened up against the cab so the leveler maintains its position. Serves no purpose, pfft...

I forgot, a strange craze developed in my absence, here's a youtube video for your viewing pleasure:
https://youtu.be/R3w2XWOwYS8?list=PLbpmyI7qPQjVa1fV-flKR2JEUcbcXYZQN

« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 06:56:28 pm by Nephasth »
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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2016, 07:24:25 pm »
Actually I do, thank you very much.  Obviously you know nothing about couth and being polite.   :soapbox:

(Or posting links to embedded Youtube vids)  :-P  (j/k)
http://youtu.be/zoRJKzSURqQ?t=422

In this video example there are NO nuts used.  They are not really necessary in home use.  The goal is to easily reach under the cab and adjust it if necessary.  Who wants to reach under and adjust their nuts all the time?   :laugh2:  If you tighten that bolt, you will be able to raise the cabinet it by unscrewing it, but you won't be able to lower the cabinet without loosening the nut first.  (You won't be able to do either with a lock washer, but the one you showed does not have one).

But really:  Lighten up dude!  We all do things differently and the ultimate go is to help each other out in the community.  No need to become crass and poo-poo on each others' efforts.

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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 07:38:46 pm »
Some people do live up to their namesakes.  ::)

Please use the nuts like Neph mentioned.  It's the proper way of installing legs and it locks the height you want your cabinet to stand at.
Without that locking nut, over time you'll have to re-adjust the legs because of little movements and cabinet vibrations during gameplay that will cause the legs to unscrew.

Take a gander at Bob Bob's site on how to properly install legs:  http://www.therealbobroberts.net/ll.html
(and don't believe everything you watch on the youtubez)

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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 07:44:16 pm »
Never claimed they were a necessity. But they do have a purpose, and it's not to be a ---smurfing--- spacer. If you move a machine by sliding it, the leveler will most likely come out of adjustment, requiring re-adjustment, hence the lock nut. Leg levelers are a fairly common piece of hardware, and surprisingly (for some), are found on a variety of equipment.



I apologize I hurt your feel-bads. I should have posted something more appropriate:
They are essentially there as "spacers" so that you can't over-tighten them and then not be able to unscrew them.


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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 08:05:03 pm »
Some people do live up to their namesakes.  ::)

Please use the nuts like Neph mentioned.  It's the proper way of installing legs and it locks the height you want your cabinet to stand at.
Without that locking nut, over time you'll have to re-adjust the legs because of little movements and cabinet vibrations during gameplay that will cause the legs to unscrew.

Take a gander at Bob Bob's site on how to properly install legs:  http://www.therealbobroberts.net/ll.html
(and don't believe everything you watch on the youtubez)
Now there's a proper answer.  Thank you opt!
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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 10:14:06 am »
Thanks for the reply's, that's how I thought they worked but wasn't sure. I ended up using a washer to make sure it doesn't dig into the wood as well.

I've also seen versions that have the nut permanently welded to the bottom by the foot (presumably as a spacer?) or with no lockdown nut included which adds to the confusion as to what's proper.
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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 10:32:28 am »
The nut welded to the foot is so you can get a wrench in and adjust easily without lifting the cabinet. I've seen that kind of foot on heavyset things like washing machines a lot.


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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 11:40:32 pm »
No matter what the design it doesn't seem to work, 98 percent of all machines I have ever acquired have had every single leveler cranked to the very bottom.
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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2016, 02:24:05 pm »
No matter what the design it doesn't seem to work, 98 percent of all machines I have ever acquired have had every single leveler cranked to the very bottom.

Ain't that the truth. Well at least one of them on every game I have bought. Some of them I can't even break loose. I have a Lock-On that has one spinning in the wood and can't get loose.

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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2016, 09:05:56 pm »
Yes this is correct they are there because over time the leveler becomes almost rust welded or corroded the nut allows you to still raise the machine as needed when that time comes. ;) I've seen this condition many times and thanked whoever put the nut on there some levelers the round part easily breaks or spins freely so you need this nut trust me it is very common!

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Re: A (stupid?) question about leg levelers
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2016, 10:17:20 pm »
That nut, if properly used as shown by Nephasth, also gives you a fighting chance of breaking the leveler loose should it ever get rusted in place.  Otherwise you're breaking off the foot and getting ready for a bad time.

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