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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #920 on: October 10, 2019, 10:36:40 pm »
Sure, man, itís great but there are only very narrow times I feel comfortable playing it.  I donít like being that disconnected from my surroundings.  Doors locked, family home, sober, cell phone in pocket on vibrate.... then Iím relaxed enough.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #921 on: October 16, 2019, 01:48:04 am »
Spent $40 for the new oculus studios game Asgardís Wrath. Playing on the index the game takes like 10 frikin minutes to load and then it runs like sht on a 1080 ti. This is the entire reason why VR has not caught on, unoptimized bull that just pisses you off the entire time. Submitted a refund; the games graphics look good but who cares if it won't run correctly.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #922 on: October 16, 2019, 06:07:41 pm »
From what I have read, Asgard's Wrath takes a big performance hit when using Revive to get it running on the Index / Vive.  I can't fault them for not optimizing for a platform it's not made for.  But I can fault them for their Oculus platform exclusive BS.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #923 on: October 16, 2019, 11:40:40 pm »
Anyone played Box VR?  Looks fun but itís $21.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #924 on: October 24, 2019, 03:43:33 pm »
https://futurism.com/the-byte/new-microsoft-tech-dreamwalker-vr

As seen in Vernor Vinge's Rainbow's End (2006)
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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #925 on: October 24, 2019, 06:40:14 pm »
Anyone played Box VR?  Looks fun but itís $21.
Yes I have, it's an ok cardio game. You will sweat for sure if you stick with it.

Sure, man, itís great but there are only very narrow times I feel comfortable playing it.  I donít like being that disconnected from my surroundings.  Doors locked, family home, sober, cell phone in pocket on vibrate.... then Iím relaxed enough.

In what sense? Is it actually too immersive for you? Horrors for sure are for me! Even Skyrim gives me hibie-jibies sometimes! It was so unsettling when I returned to mansion in Solthsteim and I think the bug in the game caused the mannequins to shift forward! Creepy as hell! Or when I teleported and thought I left Neloth behind me, just to enter and him being already inside! Total freak out as to who's in my mansion!

Can't wait for the future (hope VR won't die)

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #926 on: November 03, 2019, 11:05:40 am »
Curious who  after all "those" years still using their VR on a consistent basis?

As the thread starter, I suppose I should probably chime in here.

My VR usage has dropped precipitously over the last year.  While there have been a few contributing factors, I think the single biggest reason is that I want something new.

I still have the original Vive I've had since launch. And while I still think VR is the coolest technology to come along in ages, I've reached a point where the shortcomings of the original Vive headset are becoming less tolerable. This is especially knowing there are newer headsets on the market with upgraded visuals, more interesting controllers, and so on.

It seems every single new headset while moving forwards in some respects also seem to be a step backwards in others. I don't see a clear upgrade for me from the current hardware availability.

Just considering the current options:

  • Microsoft-based "Mixed Reality" headsets - Tracking fidelity that is not as good as Valve's lighthouse setup.
  • Rift S - Seems a huge step backwards in terms of specs (only 80 Hz display? single display with no h/w IPD adjustment? seriously?).
  • Valve Index - Reported controller issues and not available in Canada.
  • Vive Pro - Reported audio issues and most people who own one say it's only a marginal upgrade over the original Vive.
  • Vive Cosmos - Reported inside-out tracking not as reliable as external lighthouses. Though at least does offer the alternative faceplate to be usable with the lighthouses.
  • Pimax headsets - Questionable build quality/ergonomics.

What I originally wanted was to be able to go to a 3x Lighthouse 2.0 tracking set up with ideally the best current SteamVR headset. Had it not been for the audio issues and lack of a headphone jack on the Vive Pro, I probably would have bought one of those already.

Then there's the Valve Index, but it's not available in Canada and I can't be bothered to jump through a bunch of hoops just to get one.

The strongest contender right now seems like the Vive Cosmos, since I can get the Lighthouse-tracking faceplate to use the base station tracking and original Vive controllers, but still get the upgraded display and ergonomics. I do wish it had bigger FOV though.

So that's where I'm at. I want something new but I don't quite know where to go. Everything seems like a compromise.
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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #927 on: November 04, 2019, 08:49:36 pm »
I use my VR as much as I use my arcades....

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #928 on: November 04, 2019, 11:15:30 pm »
I am kind of in the same boat; Honestly I kind of wish I just bought a Rift S over an Index as blasphemous as that sounds over a hardware perspective. The only thing that was holding it back was the tracking but it sounds like they have it fixed. The problem is VR is not just hardware it is = part software and Oculus has Steam beat so hard right now.  These fukinf index controllers are not maped properly to half the sht you try to play.  It takes steam almost 2 minutes to open...Why? I have no idea it is mind boggling, than takes almost 2 minutes for the VR app to open through steam than it takes almost that long for the steam game to load. That is a hell of a lot of VR friction. Do you know how long it takes the oculus app which is combined with the VR app to open? Like 4 seconds even the games seem to load up faster through the oculus app.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #929 on: November 05, 2019, 10:07:03 pm »
I am kind of in the same boat; Honestly I kind of wish I just bought a Rift S over an Index as blasphemous as that sounds over a hardware perspective. The only thing that was holding it back was the tracking but it sounds like they have it fixed. The problem is VR is not just hardware it is = part software and Oculus has Steam beat so hard right now.

Good point about the software side.

That's what so frustrating. I just wish there was a way to merge all the best bits from each current implementation into a single ideal. Instead, it's a matter of trade-offs.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #930 on: November 06, 2019, 07:34:13 am »
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That's what so frustrating. I just wish there was a way to merge all the best bits from each current implementation into a single ideal. Instead, it's a matter of trade-offs.

That quote sums up almost every project I have ever worked on. ;D

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #931 on: November 08, 2019, 10:41:02 pm »
anyone play pistol whip? Finally something good. I had to buy it on oculus for the Quest cross buy and just hope it worked through revive on the index. I am happy to say I was not getting any shudder not even a single drooped frame at any time with out even any downgraded resolution. That's all I ask for in VR.

There was this drawing music video you can download for free called "Show it 2 Me" which I always thought was cool, even though there was no game play you can just dance around while you travel down a road and things pop out with the beat. Pistol whip is basically that but you shoot the things that pop out.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #932 on: December 10, 2019, 08:43:30 pm »
Apparently I've been under a rock for the past few weeks, because this happened: Half-Life: Alyx is a full-length VR prequel coming in 2020, and Valve Index owners get it free

There is also news of a Left 4 Dead VR game in the works. Not that VR needed more zombie games, mind you...

Also, Valve Index now availables in Canada! Just pulled the trigger on an order which will allegedly ship some time in January 2020.
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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #933 on: December 10, 2019, 10:19:09 pm »
Ace Combat on PSVR is pretty cool.  First person Afterburner.

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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #934 on: December 12, 2019, 12:16:01 am »
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Apparently I've been under a rock for the past few weeks, because this happened: Half-Life: Alyx is a full-length VR prequel coming in 2020, and Valve Index owners get it free

There is also news of a Left 4 Dead VR game in the works. Not that VR needed more zombie games, mind you...

Also, Valve Index now availables in Canada! Just pulled the trigger on an order which will allegedly ship some time in January 2020.

I have always thought since the very beginning of VR they should recreate this left for dead portal scen in VR. Funny thing is boneworks just came out and the graphics look surprisingly similar. It would be an easy thing now to create this in the boneworks engine and steel all the sound effects.


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Re: I have now tried Virtual Reality and it is amazing
« Reply #935 on: December 14, 2019, 06:48:28 pm »
anyone play pistol whip? Finally something good. I had to buy it on oculus for the Quest cross buy and just hope it worked through revive on the index. I am happy to say I was not getting any shudder not even a single drooped frame at any time with out even any downgraded resolution. That's all I ask for in VR.

There was this drawing music video you can download for free called "Show it 2 Me" which I always thought was cool, even though there was no game play you can just dance around while you travel down a road and things pop out with the beat. Pistol whip is basically that but you shoot the things that pop out.
The game is a lot of fun and a lot of leg work out for me. Dual guns and aim assist off = frenzy shootout!