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Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« on: October 22, 2015, 09:20:39 am »
Hi!

I use a lot of emulators in their native resolutions in my system with crt_emu drivers: nes, snes, sega megadrive, psx, pcsx2, c64, amiga and of course groovymame. Since due to a ddraw bug in windows 7 I cannot use these old emulators in their native lower resolutions I am forced to to use a terrible Windows Vista as my emulating OS. Why? Because ddraw bug is not present in Windows Vista plus it gives a huge performance boost via DirectX10 plugins for pcsx2 and dolphin emulation. Also I have all x64 bit drivers for my hardware.

My question is this: has anything changed during past year, some fix or anything to allow ddraw to work in low resolutions in Windows 7, 8, 8.1 and 10?

Please let me know because Vista is terrible sluggish even on my superfast ssd and 8gigs of ram.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 01:11:36 pm »
This is a MS Windows bug and still exists in recent versions 8/8.1, haven't tested 10. GroovyMAME has a specific implementation to workaround this bug in W7. Other emulators don't. Anyway, you won't be able to use ddraw emulators with W8 and above because ddraw performance is terrible on those systems, at least with ATI cards.
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 01:15:46 pm »
Thank you for your reply! Windows Vista it is then....   :-[ :-[ :-[
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 01:17:16 pm »
Don't you have any better modern alternative for your ddraw emulators?

(Vista sucks)
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 01:20:47 pm »
You mean something like retroarch? I never managed to get it to work in native resolutions.

Is there anything else I could try?
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 01:33:28 pm »
Retroarch can work with native resolutions. You could solve most of your W7 issues if you set your desktop to a progressive mode, instead of interlaced. It's interlaced/progressive switching what fails.

MAME has a pretty decent emulation of many console systems already, Megadrive and SNES for instance.
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 01:37:18 pm »
Thank you Calamity! I learned a lot today!
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2015, 03:41:50 pm »
I use retroarch on W7 with "super" resolutions. This works well for systems that have multiple resolutions such as the Genesis.
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Re: Windows 8, 8.1 and 10?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2015, 05:32:25 pm »
Quote from: cyb on October 22, 2015, 03:41:50 pm
I use retroarch on W7 with "super" resolutions. This works well for systems that have multiple resolutions such as the Genesis.
What would you recommend Retroarch or GroovyUME/MESS?

I cant find MESS game archives anywhere and it seems so complicated to configure.
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