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Author Topic: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another COMPLETED Flynn's Arcade!  (Read 10950 times)

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2015, 09:49:09 am »
Loving the sign, you should do a "brick" background behind it! :D

Yes that's exactly the plan.  This was just a quick fit check and didn't have the marquee background installed.  You can see it in the pic of the printed artwork a few posts back.

Ha, it certainly was  :applaud: . Thats what happen when you read to fast :P
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2015, 02:01:19 pm »
Awesome marquee  ;D

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2015, 09:59:19 pm »
Got the art applied to the CP today.  Tried different T-molding options and looks like orange will be the winner.  More to come.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2015, 10:48:08 am »
That Marquee is amazing... Any worries about it getting a bit hot?  :notworthy:
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2015, 01:32:06 pm »
That Marquee is amazing... Any worries about it getting a bit hot?  :notworthy:

Not really.  This is EL wire, it doesn't use much power.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2015, 10:40:18 pm »
Very productive day today!  Got the side art, monitor and marquee installed.  I was freaking out about applying/cutting the vinyl but that ended up being pretty easy.  Test fitted a 3D printed curved marquee bracket and the neon sign.  Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.  I'll use my good camera later on.

Ordered the T molding and buttons (all orange).  Decided to not use illuminated buttons.  Seems like everybody is using them these days but I felt like there was enough flashy things in there.  I tried a bunch of different models but the straight orange always seemed better. 

Measured the window dimensions about 20 times and will get quotes this week.  From my research, seems that the consensus is for dark tinted glass so I think I will go for that.

That was a long day, I need a drink...

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2015, 10:44:36 pm »
 :applaud:

This is turning out to be a really nice build.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2015, 12:10:36 am »
Save some money on the glass and go with dark tinted plexi. Trust me on this, i've done the homework. For the price, clarity, weight, and just all around, its like the only thing i would have done different. :)

I'm loving this build, those Orange buttons are going to look crazy on that CP.

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« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2015, 09:05:10 am »
Save some money on the glass and go with dark tinted plexi. Trust me on this, i've done the homework. For the price, clarity, weight, and just all around, its like the only thing i would have done different. :)

I'm loving this build, those Orange buttons are going to look crazy on that CP.

Thanks for the tip.  The local glass shop I dealt with before does both glass and plexi so I will get a quote for both.  Not too concerned about weight as I gave that up when I went with MDF (never again).  Price, well, I stopped counting a while ago, as you probably all have at some point.  My goal is to get the best look and feel.  I never get a good feel when I look at raw acrylic sheets.  Feels cheap and plasticy.  Maybe its different when its tinted and installed in the cab?  There is something real about glass that I can't quite describe.  Although when you say you have done your homework, I totally believe you.

Yeah the orange works great after all.  Credit all goes to gbeef on that.  I was worried because the t-molding orange does not quite match the orange outline in the art.  It didn't look right in CAD but looks fine in reality.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2015, 06:03:16 pm »
Save some money on the glass and go with dark tinted plexi. Trust me on this, i've done the homework. For the price, clarity, weight, and just all around, its like the only thing i would have done different. :)

For this cab (which looks awesome), I agree with Chance.

OTOH (and for folks who may find this thread by searching for the choice of glass vs plexi), I'll offer my rationale. For instances where the monitor is near a vertical mount and there is no trackball prone to "Golden Tee swoosh" play, I think plexi is a good choice (just be sure to clean it properly so you don't get scratches). If, however, you have a monitor mounted at 60 degrees or less, or have controls that may end up with hands running off the CP, go with a good tempered glass. All in MPO.

Marquee is gorgeous, as is the artwork. I love bold accents, so orange is a great choice.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2015, 07:36:51 pm »
Maybe yous guys know where to go for cheap plexi, but I had a 25 1/2 x 26 1/2 price of smoked tempered glass cut at my local glass shop for $26 bucks.

A sheet of even acrylic big enough to span that is more than that and I imagine plexi is even more spendy.

Just saying....

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2015, 09:16:20 pm »
I think, all said and done I paid close to $200 Canadian for the sheet of glass on my Flynns from OneDayGlass.com. Not that I'm into restoring old cabs instead of building them I'm finding plexi is more then adequate. I do notice a couple small clarity issues in the glass. Caused me to flip and rotate it a couple times. 

For my DKU I picked up some plexi from a local plastics shop for $30 Canadian. Cheaper, lighter, better clarity, and just all around better.  Also, these cabs are for home use. Remember, companies like Nintendo used smoke plexi for their actual machines.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2015, 09:40:32 pm »
I am now stuck waiting for parts so, in the meantime, I started setting up the software.  I ran tests on a few games today and am reconsidering my choice of a vertical monitor.  I find horizontal games look rather small.  I knew this going in but it felt worse than I expected.  I also found that vertical games end up huge, not necessarily in a good way due to their low resolution.  Luckily, I have a 16:10 24" LCD so I ran some side by side tests.  I think I will go back to horizontal with a 16:10.  My main worry with it is if it dies, it will be hard to replace.  Would be interested to hear what you pros think.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2015, 10:34:17 pm »
Also, these cabs are for home use. Remember, companies like Nintendo used smoke plexi for their actual machines.

My personal preference -- when I have the choice -- is glass. Nothing looks better. Having said that, plexi is fine and cheaper... right up until it is scratched. Then it is ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. But then again, tempering is expensive and if you've ever set a sheet of tempered glass down wrong, even more expensive.

Properly cared for (as you say, home use ... just clean it properly), and in a configuration that doesn't leave it prone to scratched, plexi is fine. I have two Atari cabs (dating from 1976 and 1979), both with original plexi that still look great. And my Ninty, while not really a poster boy for quality cab construction, still has original smoked plexi and looks fine.

EDIT: I wasn't clear about the plexi on my old cabs -- all of them were in-arcade and then on-route machines and the plexi is still nice.
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2015, 11:51:41 am »
Just got quotes.  Regular tinted glass 62$, plexi 95$ and graylite 14 glass 108$.  I wouldn't call plexi cheap at this point.  I will try a couple other vendors just in case.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2015, 11:14:09 pm »
That Marquee is amazing! Any plans on using EL Wire to make it more TRONy or is this pure arcade look?

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2015, 11:15:03 pm »
If you are going for quotes on glass, make sure it's tempered. Seriously.  :-\

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2015, 11:19:05 pm »
If you are going for quotes on glass, make sure it's tempered. Seriously.  :-\

No doubt!

Does Canada not have places that are full service glass shops that do everything from windows and windshields  to tabletops and skylights?

Or are the prices your talking in Canadian dollars?

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« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2015, 11:20:50 pm »
Canada has a lot of things.  However for some strange reason I chose to go with OneDayGlass.com.  ...maybe their marketing got to me?? I can't for the life of me remember why I didn't go local.

I should have done plexi tho. Meh.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2015, 07:21:16 am »
If you are going for quotes on glass, make sure it's tempered. Seriously.  :-\

For sure, I only got quotes for tempered.
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2015, 07:24:59 am »
That Marquee is amazing! Any plans on using EL Wire to make it more TRONy or is this pure arcade look?

The neon sign is already made with elwire and i think adding more will just make it too crowded.  Sometimes less is more in my opinion.  It will be backlit though.  Made some test with my phone flashlight behind it and it looked great so i will add  that.  There will also be led strips between the 2 layer kickplate like Ond's Metropolis.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2015, 11:09:04 am »
Canada has a lot of things.  However for some strange reason I chose to go with OneDayGlass.com.  ...maybe their marketing got to me?? I can't for the life of me remember why I didn't go local.

I should have done plexi tho. Meh.

Just found #2074 (dark grey) plexi for 28$ in Toronto (20$ shipping).  Almost too good to be true.  At that price, I will give plexi a shot.  If I don't like it, I can always go back to glass. For those in Canada, found this at plasticworld.ca
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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2015, 12:01:36 pm »
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2015, 07:30:05 pm »
Received my LED strips today so finished the Marquee.  I'm pretty happy with that.  Here is how it looks in the dark.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2015, 07:35:31 pm »
Received my LED strips today so finished the Marquee.  I'm pretty happy with that.  Here is how it looks in the dark.
Hmmmm.... I thought the individual letter were going to be lit.
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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2015, 07:42:02 pm »
Received my LED strips today so finished the Marquee.  I'm pretty happy with that.  Here is how it looks in the dark.
Hmmmm.... I thought the individual letter were going to be lit.

not sure what you mean, they are lit.  Each letter is made with EL wire

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2015, 07:44:14 pm »
Received my LED strips today so finished the Marquee.  I'm pretty happy with that.  Here is how it looks in the dark.
Hmmmm.... I thought the individual letter were going to be lit.

not sure what you mean, they are lit.  Each letter is made with EL wire
Okay, let me rephrase that. What are the white lights I see behind the letters? What is the purpose?
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« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2015, 07:59:03 pm »
Received my LED strips today so finished the Marquee.  I'm pretty happy with that.  Here is how it looks in the dark.
Hmmmm.... I thought the individual letter were going to be lit.

not sure what you mean, they are lit.  Each letter is made with EL wire
Okay, let me rephrase that. What are the white lights I see behind the letters? What is the purpose?

Each letter is a piece of 3D printed plastic which includes standoff posts to hold the el wire (all white).  A few posts back there are pics of the assembly that might help clarify.  The sign is held by a 3D printed frame (white).  This whole assembly sits in front of a curved marquee (brick texture, see pic) with an LED strip behind it.  I guess the crappy cell phone pic isnt that clear.  Once this is more finished I'll take out my SLR and get some good HDR shots.  I'm just lazy :)

I'm starting to think I should have made the letters and the frame black but I don't even want to think about redoing it at this stage.  Maybe later.

[edit] Looking at it again, I think you might be referring to the clips that hold the elwire.
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2015, 08:01:45 pm »
I think the letters themselves look cool. I guess I just thought that those would be the only thing lit, almost like neon. The white threw me off. Yes, can't wait to see the SLR photos.
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2015, 08:05:31 pm »
I think the letters themselves look cool. I guess I just thought that those would be the only thing lit, almost like neon. The white threw me off. Yes, can't wait to see the SLR photos.

They actually do look like neon.  Its just hard to capture with a camera.  It even makes a nice faint buzzing sound just like real neon.  I tried with and without the background led strips and it definitely looks better with it.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2015, 08:43:19 pm »
Meh.

Just kidding. That looks bloody awesome!  :applaud:

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2015, 08:58:04 pm »
If the UCA's have a category for best Flynn's cabinet, so far this one takes it!  :D
Fricken' love that marquee!  :cheers:

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2015, 01:19:28 pm »
Very impressive indeed!    Awesome concept, great execution.   :applaud:  :notworthy:

Any thought to putting solid walls around the letters like it appears the original had, or at least it looks that way in the pic you posted, I think it would help give the letters more definition. Also, it may just be the picture, but the white looks a little bright to me.
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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2015, 02:00:49 pm »
Very impressive indeed!    Awesome concept, great execution.   :applaud:  :notworthy:

Any thought to putting solid walls around the letters like it appears the original had, or at least it looks that way in the pic you posted, I think it would help give the letters more definition. Also, it may just be the picture, but the white looks a little bright to me.

There are no walls but there is a white background on each letter which achieves that.  Its just hard to see in the pics because of the poor dynamic range of the camera.  Same for the background light.  It looks pretty good in person but I can't same to take a good picture of it.

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2015, 01:56:48 pm »
I think the brick texture is what's throwing my eye. If it was plain white I think it would look better. Not that it looks bad, mind you. I think it looks awesome, but the blue strips behind the letters kinda make my eye buggy...lol.

I'll reserve more comments when I see the HDR pictures. Loving this build, the artwork is FAN-TAS-TIC as well! Can't wait to see the orange buttons.  :applaud:

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« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2015, 03:19:47 pm »
Agreed, if it were me, I wouldn't light the back section and just have the 3D part lit up.

Still, this is so cool.  It makes the neon sign I wanted to have made for a bartop project look like dog ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

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« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2015, 06:01:06 pm »
I think the brick texture is what's throwing my eye. If it was plain white I think it would look better. Not that it looks bad, mind you. I think it looks awesome, but the blue strips behind the letters kinda make my eye buggy...lol.

I'll reserve more comments when I see the HDR pictures. Loving this build, the artwork is FAN-TAS-TIC as well! Can't wait to see the orange buttons.  :applaud:

Yeah its the kind of thing you have to see in person.  I tried not lighting the background and it didnt quite work.  I can try and play with intensity of the background and make it more subtle.  Do you guys know if its safe to put electrical tape on some of the leds on these strips?  I would think so but they do heat up a bit.  Maybe there is another way to dim them down a bit?

I noticed the t molding and buttons have arrived but im on business travel right now.  Can wait to put this stuff on...

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2015, 07:28:27 pm »
In mine, I used less LED's, used them only where I wanted to light it, and added small pieces of colour gels from my Theater lighting swatch book :)

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Re: Project Neon Flynn's: Yet Another Flynn's Arcade!
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2015, 08:56:30 pm »
A pulse width modulated (PWM) dimmer will work for your led strips.  If you're only worried about dialing in the level, and not flashing effects, you can pick up a simple PWM LED dimmer off ebay for under $5.

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« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2015, 09:33:10 pm »
A pulse width modulated (PWM) dimmer will work for your led strips.  If you're only worried about dialing in the level, and not flashing effects, you can pick up a simple PWM LED dimmer off ebay for under $5.

Yeah i was trying to avoid the PWM route until im sure thats what i want.  These things are cheap but they take forever to show up since they come from China.  Ill block some and see if it looks better first.

  
 

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