Author Topic: COMPLETED: Rotating 6-panel driving cab pics. Won a Mamey! (Read 28256 times)

unclet · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:10:58 am »

Here is the Star Wars control panel image I started with (got image from someone's Ebay post):

unclet · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:12:25 am »

Here is what the Star Wars image looked like after I got done editting it and "playing around" with it:

Note: I then simply resized it to the size I needed for my control panel.

unclet · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:14:37 am »

Here is the Spy Hunter image I started with (forget where I got this image, but it was the best one I could find without having the steering assembly blocking the control panel):

unclet · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:15:27 am »

Here is the Spy Hunter image after I got done editting it and "playing around" with it:

Note: I obviously got creative to fill in the right side of the image

DOC · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:20:20 am »

ohh man... i'm stunned!!

" this is powerfull!! " that is prolly the only machine i've seen so far with that CP system " let me curse a little and HOOOOOOOOLLLLYYYY SH*T " that is some extremly well done work you've got yourself

" may your machine inspire others....!! "

doc..

RetroJames · « **Reply #45 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:32:36 am »

With the announcement of the completion of this project and other threads actively pursuing rotating control panels of various sizes and girths, we as a board are entering into a very weird facet of this hobby. Be afraid, very afraid.

unclet · « **Reply #46 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:46:41 am »

Why is it called "Mom's Arcade"? Well the answer is because my other Mame cabinet (4-player standup) is called "Dad's Arcade" (see pic) and I thought this way I could immortalize my wife (who is the most understanding woman I know when it comes to her husband's hobbies.....which ultimately go "inside" our house

)

PS: Keep in mind I also have a 9'x4' arcade air hockey, a tournamemt style Tornado Foosball table and a 10' arcade Skeeball machine as well. Not quite sure she would allow a video jukebox at this point ......

unclet · « **Reply #47 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:06:53 pm »

Here are some shots of the early early progress.....way back when :

unclet · « **Reply #48 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:07:23 pm »

anthor pic:

Zakk · « **Reply #49 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:50:14 pm »

Was there ever any doubt?

http://www.mameworld.net/massive/Awards/Control_Panels/control_panels.html

Brax · « **Reply #50 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:50:16 pm »

Amazing.

......I'm thinking it's missing an actual motor. Considering your previous excess, a blown 454 should suffice.

May as well have real sound effects. Actually. Maybe two motors so you have stereo sound.

Brax · « **Reply #51 on:** January 02, 2004, 12:55:06 pm »

Btw, I gave Zakk (Mr. Mamey) the heads up.

saint · « **Reply #52 on:** January 02, 2004, 01:02:33 pm »

Quote from: unclet on January 01, 2004, 06:15:57 pm

I do have about 100 pictures though (numbered in the order of my progress), but the problem is I do not have webspace or the skill to post pictures even if I did. Anyway, if you (or anyone else for that matter) would like to donate some webspace (and their time) to post all of my pictures on for me, then everyone can look through the progress and see the progression which I went through.

If you or someone puts it together I will donate the web space.

--- saint

Zakk · « **Reply #53 on:** January 02, 2004, 01:05:15 pm »

Quote from: Brax on January 02, 2004, 12:55:06 pm

Btw, I gave Zakk (Mr. Mamey) the heads up.

Check the post above yours

unclet · « **Reply #54 on:** January 02, 2004, 01:19:38 pm »

saint: Might take awhile, but I will try to get some help and put something together. I have no skill in web design, though placing some text with pictures should not be rocket science. Thanks for the webspace donation, I will be in touch.

Brax Thanks for contacting Zakk on my behalf

Zakk Thanks for the MAMEY!!! Much appreciated!!!!

RetroJames · « **Reply #55 on:** January 02, 2004, 01:34:28 pm »

Quote from: unclet on January 02, 2004, 01:19:38 pm

saint: Might take awhile, but I will try to get some help and put something together. I have no skill in web design, though placing some text with pictures should not be rocket science. Thanks for the webspace donation, I will be in touch.

Brax Thanks for contacting Zakk on my behalf

Zakk Thanks for the MAMEY!!! Much appreciated!!!!

If you can send me a zip to jamann@gsu (remove this spam block) .edu I can convert them to a photo album pretty quickly. The order may be a bit off, but if you can group them into larger blocks for the diff stages before sending, I can sort them by those groups.

RetroJames · « **Reply #56 on:** January 02, 2004, 01:37:26 pm »

Quote from: unclet on January 01, 2004, 01:48:37 pm

Xbox pic (see the Xbox pedals which fit over the left gas/brake assembly):

I'd like to see more about how this works

1UP · « **Reply #57 on:** January 02, 2004, 03:07:32 pm »

Wow! Just when I thought it was impossible to add any more controls...

I might have to talk some business with you soon...

shmokes · « **Reply #58 on:** January 02, 2004, 04:10:12 pm »

The funny thing is how those pictures don't do that monster justice. When I first saw it I thought, "Man, a cabinet that nice deserves better than a wimpy 19" TV." Then I read further and realized that's a 27". It is dwarfed by the size of the cabinet. You should substitute a 32" in there at your earliest convenience. And, as was mentioned, maybe build some kind of enclosure, with a bezel and smoked glass to give it a "finished product" feel.

You have my congratulations and my envy.

pocketbikez · « **Reply #59 on:** January 02, 2004, 06:44:06 pm »

Quote from: Karman on January 02, 2004, 09:50:41 am

How did you interface the shifter with Pole Position? The controls for PP in mame are a button press to switch between High and Low, but the shifter uses an on/off microswitch. I have a PP cab myself and am trying to figure out how to mame it.

i also am in the long process of developing a driving mame cab, i've figured out that pretty much all the driving games can be shifted with a happs 4 way shifter. im trying to save space on the control panel, but for arcade realism youd want more shifters for individual games.

i go into mames setup for pole position...

tab
input (this game)
then i map both the 1st and 2nd shifter switches to the gear change input.

when i shift into 1st its low and then shift into 2nd and its high. the happs 4way shifter has a short shift throw and its easy to stay on one side of the gears(1st and 2nd). feels just like the real arcade machines.

i've wondered why pole postion, turbo and spyhunter in mame arent programmed to shift like the real arcade machines, they all use a single microswitch on-off gear shifter.

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #60 on:** January 02, 2004, 10:05:13 pm »

btw: what? no rotating shifter control panel ; )
no rotating pedal base? ; )

any 'bass shakers' under the seat?
(they are a must have! www.partsexpress.com)

just some ideas mods for the ultra insane ; )

I hope andy w. or other encoder sellers will see that
more and more panels are rotators with tons of controls and that we really could use a better all arround solution for the many device types needed.

HagHore · « **Reply #61 on:** January 02, 2004, 10:37:57 pm »

That is sweet! Now you just need to build 3 more, set them side by side and have some awesome XBox Link driving mania!

unclet · « **Reply #62 on:** January 02, 2004, 10:45:07 pm »

shmokes: My wife tried to get me to use the 32" TV, but it turned out to be too high when seating in the arcade seat and also too BIG and close to the face when mounted. Actually the 27" is a perfect size when sitting so close.

Also, I explained about the plexi and bezel already..... my wife's one request was that the TV could be used as a normal TV and could still be viewed from a sofa somewhere in the room. This is why there is no plexi/bezel and why the TV rotates. Give and take....I assumed my wife gave a lot letting me keep this beast in the house, so it was no bigbie to keep the TV looking like a TV for me. Although plexi/bezel would look cool.

pocektbikez: I have a Low/High shifter which only has one microswitch. Basically when it is in the HIgh position the microswitch is activated, otherwise in Low it is not. I think this might work for me for Pole Position and Spy Hunter no problem.

Xiaou2: funny.... but you know my pedal assembly does move left and right.....

HagHore: Another cab like this means divorce....

pocketbikez · « **Reply #63 on:** January 02, 2004, 11:25:13 pm »

Quote from: unclet on January 02, 2004, 10:45:07 pm

I have a Low/High shifter which only has one microswitch. Basically when it is in the HIgh position the microswitch is activated, otherwise in Low it is not. I think this might work for me for Pole Position and Spy Hunter no problem.

when u wire-up the single microswitch shifter and try to use it in mame (for pole position, turbo and spyhunter) you will find that it wont work properly. you will have to shift into high then back into low to shift once.

test play buggy challenge 1984 (buggychl.zip) that is how the shifter input should work for pole position, turbo and spyhunter. the problem in mame with these 3 games is that shifting needs a keypress then a release for each high and low.

a few solutions are...
1. ask mame dev's to fix the shifter inputs in the mame code, or maybe its in the roms.

2. somehow attach a second microswitch to your single switch high-low shifter.

in the meantime you can also just map your 4-way shifter like i pointed out earlier and play the games now.

let me know how it goes when you wire it up.
-pocketbikez

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #64 on:** January 03, 2004, 05:33:17 am »

Im also currious about your Spyhunter situation.

I got a SH controller long ago... but when went to hook it up to a 5k pot, the pot got destroyed after turning the wheel. Seems the gearing was too great and turned it too far.

I dont think I tried the 1k pot that came with it... but i think that was cause it was missing a lead (busted)..

Please check your pot... if its small in size and blue in color... then thats probably the original. Does it work with the dualstrike hack? If you can... get the K reading on it.

Also... does anyone know if there are pots available that will work in a spyhunter arcade machine? Id hate to lose my machine over a 'rare?' pot going bad : (

menace · « **Reply #65 on:** January 03, 2004, 08:20:55 am »

I can't believe I missed your rotating tv explanation right in the main description(overwhelmed by pics i guess) and thanks for the jpgs! I was thinking, why not put the tv on a sliding/rotating mechanism so the tv can be enclosed in a arcade type space while playing? The tv could push back from the player, rotate, then push back in for the people on the other side--this way you could keep the tv exclosure tight to the tv for the mame effect without sacrificing any functionality--too crazy?

pocketbikez · « **Reply #66 on:** January 03, 2004, 09:43:52 am »

Xiaou2: heres a pic of my spyhunter steering pot. both of my spyhunter control panels have 1k pots. this is a pic of the very bottom of the pot. i flipped the picture 180 degrees.

The manuals schematics also show both the steering and gas pedal pots as 1k. In the spyhunter manual the steering pot is part number # 105E-00004-0002. The gas pedal pot has a different part number... # AA27-00017-0000. I've checked happcontrols.com and they dont have any 1k pots, i also searched the net with no luck. seems the only hope is to watch ebay for a parted out spyhunter machine.

Unclet: please check your spyhunter pot and see if it says 1k on it. if you have already wired up and got it to work with the dualstrike hack im in business. this info would be great as i dont want to burn up my original pot.

thanks
-pocketbikez

unclet · « **Reply #67 on:** January 03, 2004, 05:31:37 pm »

pocketbikez: How about I use my 2-speed return-to-center shifter (which has two microswitches) to play Spy Hunter, Turbo and Pole Position? When you push the shifter up it will activate the shifter and then it will return to center which means the microswitch will no longer be activated.

Xiaou2 and pocketbikez: As for the Spy Hunter pot type on my assembly...this is the best I can do for you. I do not plan on taking the Spy Hunter panel off my rotating cab (disconnecting wires, removing screws, etc...) to get at the pot just for a look. However, I did design my rotating panel so I can lift off the black cover from it so my hands can get inside . Anyway, I stuck in my camera and this was the best picture I got of the pot. There is some blue on it, but you can judge if this is the "blue" you are looking for. I can also tell you that when I bought this Spy Hunter assembly on Ebay, the seller indicated that this assembly was ready to be plugged in and be played. Considering the seller's comment, I would imagine that if a Spy Hunter arcade machine only uses a 1K pot, then this is what must be on my assembly. I connected the Dual Strike directly to wires which were already coming from the Spy Hunter pot, so I did nothing new myself there. To test the Spy Hunter assembly, I went into My Control Panel/Game Controllers and clicked on the Dual Strike controller which was related to my Spy Hunter assembly (remember I have 6 total). I then selected "Properties" and then clicked the "Test" tab. I can then test that all thumb and trigger buttons work along with the pot movements. All I can tell you is that when I tested the Dual Strike which was wired to my Spy Hunter assembly, I can move the steering left and the "test" cursor moves left. When I moved it right, the "test" cursot moved right. I also finally went into Mame and clicked on (what I think) was "Analog input" or something. I could map my Spy Hunter steering wheel movement in Mame. It recognized the +/- movement. Hope of this helps.

Arcade-Inferno · « **Reply #68 on:** January 04, 2004, 07:46:33 am »

This looks like a great cab and I'd be happy to donate space on my server to host it. Let me know if you're interested.

unclet · « **Reply #69 on:** January 04, 2004, 08:10:44 am »

Arcade-Inferno: Thanks for your offer, but I already excepted "saint"'s offer for some webspace. I do appreciate it. When the site is up, I will post a link for everyone to see my progress, along with some nice PCB shots of my Dual Strike PCB hacks.......

I did not just hack the directional pad and Up/Down and Left/Right pots (like 1Up's site shows).......I decided I needed more buttons so I also hacked the A,B,C,D,X,Y,Left trigger and Right Trigger buttons as well. I will show everyone where to hack the Dual Strike for these as well......

Thanks again


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