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| pbj:
Nobody liked high school. If you can't force yourself to sit through it and get the piece of paper, why would I think you'd do the job I'm paying you for? |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:17 pm ---Schooling doesnt prove character, drive, adaptability, attitude, nor work ethic. It barely teaches you the ability to "Think" for oneself. But, because so many people are so Judgmental... its best to have the degree, else some zombie clown, will try to hold you down. --- End quote --- The thing is, if you're an employer and you have to pick from a selection of applicants, you don't have much to go by other than credentials and references. And in the former department, if a person cannot even finish high school, are they someone I would want to hire? Having a diploma demonstrates that a person can at least finish something, is probably trainable, and likely does not have the types of issues that leads one to dropping out. Doesn't automatically mean they are going to be a good employee, but it does cut down on the perceived risk. |
| ark_ader:
--- Quote from: shponglefan on April 26, 2015, 10:54:56 pm --- --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:17 pm ---Schooling doesnt prove character, drive, adaptability, attitude, nor work ethic. It barely teaches you the ability to "Think" for oneself. But, because so many people are so Judgmental... its best to have the degree, else some zombie clown, will try to hold you down. --- End quote --- The thing is, if you're an employer and you have to pick from a selection of applicants, you don't have much to go by other than credentials and references. And in the former department, if a person cannot even finish high school, are they someone I would want to hire? Having a diploma demonstrates that a person can at least finish something, is probably trainable, and likely does not have the types of issues that leads one to dropping out. Doesn't automatically mean they are going to be a good employee, but it does cut down on the perceived risk. --- End quote --- You would think so right? I interview graduates and hire those without degrees (but have certifications) as I find those without degrees are harder working than self centred college graduates. Also if you are 16 and hate High School, then you should get your GED and get a job or enlist in the military. The latter would be beneficial to the OP and his charges. |
| Le Chuck:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on April 27, 2015, 06:32:54 am ---Also if you are 16 and hate High School, then you should get your GED and get a job or enlist in the military. The latter would be beneficial to the OP and his charges. --- End quote --- Trust me, as an US Army Officer who liaises regularly with my Canadian counterparts I can safely assure you that neither military is interested in GED/equivalent enlistees. While enlistment standards may have been relaxed in years past due to operational necessity this is no longer the case and enlistment goals are being met with well qualified motivated individuals who have the requisite educational background. I am sure that anyone with sufficient drive, motivation, and desire can make it without a paper education. I am also sure that the military isn't interested in being the springboard for those who couldn't really hack highschool. The days of "go to war or go to jail" are thankfully over. Military service shouldn't be a back up plan, and anyone interested in military service would do well to try and accomplish all they can in the classroom prior to enlisting/commissioning to ensure that they are of greatest use to their chosen service. |
| pbj:
Sure, sure, but the military sure does a hell of a lot of recruitment from small towns and territories where the locals don't have many options. My high school made every damn one of us take the ASVAB. Gets selective if you want to do anything besides be a human shield but let's not pretend they're only accepting college graduates. |
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