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| dkersten:
Life is all about generalizations. This is where stereotypes come from, and while some people get offended when they are stereotyped, it is usually because they fit the bill all too well. When you don't know someone, you generalize, and odds are good you will be correct. Employers seldom want to risk their company on the long odds. Anyone can come up with exceptional cases, and unfortunately when people make bad choices they are often thinking about being an exception and not being like everyone else who made that bad choice. Everyone wants to think they can do things later if they put their mind to it. But a high school graduate didn't wait until later, they just did what had to be done. That makes them (in general) better employees. Nothing made me more angry than when my son's brand new step father told him, in a meeting with all his teachers, that not all dropouts turn into failures. He used himself as an example. Of course, he is now serving 15 years for trying to kill his wife (my ex, ie my son's mother). I realize this is probably not what Ed wants to hear, but perhaps he can use this kind of info to help motivate his nephews into putting in the effort to lay a better foundation for their lives.. |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 27, 2015, 01:13:46 pm --- --- Quote from: shponglefan on April 26, 2015, 10:54:56 pm --- --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:17 pm ---Schooling doesnt prove character, drive, adaptability, attitude, nor work ethic. It barely teaches you the ability to "Think" for oneself. But, because so many people are so Judgmental... its best to have the degree, else some zombie clown, will try to hold you down. --- End quote --- The thing is, if you're an employer and you have to pick from a selection of applicants, you don't have much to go by other than credentials and references. And in the former department, if a person cannot even finish high school, are they someone I would want to hire? Having a diploma demonstrates that a person can at least finish something, is probably trainable, and likely does not have the types of issues that leads one to dropping out. Doesn't automatically mean they are going to be a good employee, but it does cut down on the perceived risk. --- End quote --- Actually, it doesnt prove that. People cheat in school all the time.. as well as teachers passing students... even though they didnt deserve to pass. --- End quote --- It's about averages. A person who graduates high school is less likely to have the issues that a dropout might. For example, there are correlations between things like crime and substance abuse among dropouts. This doesn't mean every single high school graduate will be a great employee or every dropout is a drug using criminal, but one reduces the statistical risk by hiring accordingly. |
| danny_galaga:
Hey, I'm a high school drop out and I turned out just fine ;D |
| ark_ader:
--- Quote from: Le Chuck on April 27, 2015, 09:33:27 am --- --- Quote from: ark_ader on April 27, 2015, 06:32:54 am ---Also if you are 16 and hate High School, then you should get your GED and get a job or enlist in the military. The latter would be beneficial to the OP and his charges. --- End quote --- Trust me, as an US Army Officer who liaises regularly with my Canadian counterparts I can safely assure you that neither military is interested in GED/equivalent enlistees. While enlistment standards may have been relaxed in years past due to operational necessity this is no longer the case and enlistment goals are being met with well qualified motivated individuals who have the requisite educational background. I am sure that anyone with sufficient drive, motivation, and desire can make it without a paper education. I am also sure that the military isn't interested in being the springboard for those who couldn't really hack highschool. The days of "go to war or go to jail" are thankfully over. Military service shouldn't be a back up plan, and anyone interested in military service would do well to try and accomplish all they can in the classroom prior to enlisting/commissioning to ensure that they are of greatest use to their chosen service. --- End quote --- Probably one of the reasons why I didn't opt for OTS at the time. Most likely that will change in the next two years when they raise the OTS entry at 50+. We should have boots on the ground in Syria when the next guy is sworn in. |
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