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Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« on: February 22, 2015, 10:48:14 am »
Hi,

My transfer arm on my Ti2 does not go the whole way to deliver the record. after a few tries it gets better but then the final delivery gets "sloppy" could it be that the unit requires oiling?
the jukebox stands in a cold dry room and this is the first time that i have had problems with it.

Is there a simple way to set the jukebox on free play?

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 06:18:36 am »
Hi James,

I recommend to all of my customers never to oil or grease the Trunion & Cam gears on the 1100 & 1200 mechanism. Instead you should remoove the gripper bow assembly fully and clean in parts in warm soapy water. Dry and inspect the gears for any wear and replace if necessary, rebuildand place high melting point grease in the ends of the trunnion casting (this is the only lubrication required).

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 02:31:54 pm »
Hi Alan, thanks for the answer! will try at the weekend!

There is a trim part around the numbers and letter push buttons, mine is broken and missing 20% do you know where i could perhaps get 1?

Any news about the free play that i asked about in my first post or should i just keep on using coins.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 06:13:28 am »
Hi James,

What counrty do you live in?
What model of TI-2 do you have Woodbridge, Rapsody or Caprice?

Look at the bonus switches on the keyboard, if it is the same as the R-80 then try switching over the left or the right switch to see if you get free play.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2015, 01:07:08 pm »
Hi Alan,

I live in Germany near Frankfurt.

The Jukebox is a woodBridge.

I will try your suggestion at the week end

Bye for now and thanks

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 06:14:32 am »
Hello James,

We deal with quite a few people in Germany, Belgium, Holland, Fance etc.

I think the trim you are talking about is the Decorative Insert Assembly (part number 603-07055) this molding is up the the edges of the frame (Panel Outer Trim part number 601-06560) on the top, bottom & sides and the thin chrome flange before the Panel Intermediate Trim which is red (part number 605-06570 I have one of these and a orange one off a TI-1 part number 602-06570).

You may have seen that I give advice on the Stamann website (Hildegard and Oliver are very nice people) www.jukebox-world.de

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 01:36:23 pm »
Hi Alan,

the part i am looking for is outside of the red part, the surface looks like leather/imitation leather.

I will make photos at the weekend to show you.

I have bought parts from the Stamann website, its incredible!!! so much information.

you and a guy from Austria have given me advice early last year when i had a problem with my amp and the volume control. its running great now.

Thanks to both of you!!!

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 05:27:33 am »
Hello James,

That part as you describe it is definitely Decorative Insert Assembly (part number 603-07055) it is unlikely that you will be able to get one of these.

The panel is made of textured plastic to look a bit like leathercloth there is nuts on the back of the frame to hold it in place. The plastic usually splits at some stage and in cases such as yours pieces go missing.

I would suggest that you remove it all and cut a thin panel made out of plywood or aluminium sheeting allowing for some clearance so you can cover the sheet in a suitable leathercloth which has some padding between the sheet and the leathercloth.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2015, 10:34:45 am »
Hi Alan,

you are correct it is the Decorative Insert Assembly (part number 603-07055) so i will do as you suggest an make a new one.

i was going to remove the gripper bow assembly this weekend, but i released that i did not know exactly which parts i should remove and how. Could you please tell me what part numbers i should remove, i have the manual and i am looking at page 6-22 and drawing 72.

I have noticed yesterday that the records are playing to fast, can i adjust the speed somewhere or is it to do with the rubber wheel under the turntable?

Thanks for the info so far!

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2015, 06:04:12 am »
Hello James,

The manual does not really show you how to remove the gripper bow.
Go to page 6-20 in the manual and 6-21 item 71A is the Pin Trunion (or trunion pin) these pins goes into each end of the trunion casting. These pins have a hole through them and a 4BA or1/4AF machine screw holds them in place. you will see the screws on the faces of the main mechanism casting, if you go to page 6-24 you will see the two threaded holes one of which is just to the right of item 125.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2015, 12:28:22 pm »
Hi Alan,

i have had a look at what is required regarding the cleaning of the gripper bow assembly and with your advice from the previous e mail i should get it right.

However, i do have another problem with the reed switch on the tone arm. it seams as if the reed switch is too sensitive and or the magnet is to strong or to near to the switch. It was working but the glass was damaged badly at one end so i decided to put a new one in the jukebox.

i searched on the internet and found that you have helped other people before and i tried adjusting the switch but i can not set it correctly . as soon as the tone arm gets onto the record then it rejects.

on another forum one guy had the same problem but he noticed that he only had the problem with thin records. on the thicker records it worked ok!

The reed switch is a glass tube and i soldered it in as it was with the tabs. so that the switch part is not parallel to the magnet but 90 degrees. the switch is always closed when it is in position and no amount of adjustment helps

Any help with this problem would be great.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2015, 06:55:12 am »
Hi James did you get the reed switch from a jukebox supplier or from a general outlet, the reason I ask is that you need to get the correct reed for the job and it has to be soldered into the correctposition on the bracket, the two screws that hold the bracket onto the mechanism allow for adjustments to be made by allowing the bracket to slide left or right on its slots. The more right it goes the less likely it will reject at the end of the record.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2015, 02:29:53 pm »
hi Alan,

yes i got it from a jukebox supplier and it was sold to me as a ami reed switch. it looks exactly like the one that was originally in the jukebox. the length 83mm also looks correct.

I think that is really a fine setting, i will give feedback at the weekend.

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Re: Ami Rowe Ti2 transfer arm problem
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 07:37:47 am »
Hi James,

If you are finding it too fine, it is not correct.

If you can not sort it out email me and I can send you details of a cut off switch complete on one of the original brackets that I can sell to you.

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