Kicking A** and Taking Orders...... For CUSTOM Street Fighter Arcade Tokens!

[tech_noob]

Hello everyone! What started out as a personal idea to get some custom tokens has now spiraled out of control into something that has taken the ArcadeControl community by storm (Not really, but there is definite interest!)!!!

Anywho, here is the deal! I am posting to see how many people would be interested in throwing down for some custom made Street Fighter Tokens. One token consists of the wandering warrior Ryu and his black belt with the fuurinkazen, while the other token is the murderous intent-filled Akuma with his famous "Ten" symbol (thanks for the idea Malenko!).  These luxurious brass tokens that size in at a diameter of .984 are works of art! I found some photos by one of Capcom's talented artists, Alvin Lee, and with the help of AC Forum member JDFan, we have come up with a stunning design! See attached photos for examples of the tokens. Please note that these images are line art, and I am currently in the works of finding someone with vector experience to make it black and white.

After contacting multiple suppliers and with the help of Santoro, here are the following pricing options depending on how many people would like to throw down:

Under 10 people-
   I will be going with a supplier outside of the US to get these tokens made. their molding fees are $40 per side (totaling in $160 for both tokens) and each coin is $.50; that being said, I would honestly like to avoid this if possible, but if there isn't enough interest, this will be the route We have to take. Also, since there won't be a huge amount of people, the number of tokens ordered will be decided by each individual. Molding fees will be split down by the number of people wanting to order, and each token will cost $.50 / per person. I will probably pay for shipping myself, if it isn't too off the wall.   

10 People-
10000 tokens will be ordered from Tokensdirect, totaling $1720. for $172 (plus shipping), you will receive 500 Akuma tokens and 500 Ryu tokens

20 People-
20000 tokens will be ordered from Tokensdirect, totaling $2850. For $142.50 (plus shipping), you will receive the same amount of tokens listed above

With that price guide as a starting point, please be aware that there may be changes depending on the number of people, if people want more than the given amount of tokens, etc. I will do my best to provide any additional details or information as necessary. If you have any questions, would like to sign up, or just stop by and say hi, feel free to do so through PM or this post! I will also be updating this post with example pictures, updates, etc. Thanks for reading and have a great day! 

P.S. Please feel free to point out if my math is wrong!

[JDFan]

Math seems right -- but one small suggestion - Might be easier to get more people involved if you were to cut down the size of the orders as not everyone would need 1,000 tokens for $175.

Just thinking out loud here but what about doing say $35.00 + shipping for 100 sets of tokens. ( $35 for 200 tokens is approx. same price per token) - Figure you'd need 50 orders but some people would probably get multiple sets so not really 50 people needed. By doing it that way you could probably pick up more people than you will at a minimum of $175 for 2,000 tokens but those wanting that many would still be able to get them. ( Maybe still do the $172 for 500 sets and split a few of those for those wanting fewer sets )

[Mr_Numbers]

I agree with maybe cutting it down to 100 set orders.  If this is an option I would probably order a set.

[Malenko]

I agree with maybe cutting it down to 100 set orders.  If this is an option I would probably order a set.

Yeah I'd want 100 or 200 Akuma ones, Ryu is a meat puppet.

[jmike]

100 akuma tokens for me too.   


Now to find a cheap coin door...

[yotsuya]

100 akuma tokens for me too.   


Now to find a cheap coin door...

I know where you can find one, bro.... 

[tech_noob]

Alright, I will try and come up with a better pricing system. The minimum number of tokens ordered would need to be 100 though! And if there isn't enough interest in Ryu tokens, I may just do a 5000 order of Akuma tokens first. that's going to shave down costs for everyone significantly! Thanks for the support everyone! 

[TKW4rr10r]

I agree you'll get a lot more interest with a lower entry price. I'll be in for an order once you get things settled, I'll just never see a use for 1000 tokens, 250 maybe.

If this becomes a success I would love to see another run voted on by the forum. Maybe a retro pac/galaga styled token or a Marvel vs Capcom double sided character token.

[tech_noob]

TKW4rr10r, I've put you down for up to 250 tokens. Would you prefer Ryu or Akuma ?
jmike, I have you down for 100 Akuma tokens!
Malenko, I have you down for either 100 or 200 Akuma tokens!

[Mr_Numbers]

Go ahead and put me down for 200 akuma tokens or 100 of each.  I'm more than happy to just take akuma if that's how things go.

[TKW4rr10r]

Likewise. I'd prefer 1/2 each, but if it comes down to just one design then 250 of one is fine.

[tech_noob]

Update! I just got ahold of TokensDirect again, and they told me (even though they don't normally do this) I could order 2500 Akuma tokens AND 2500 Ryu tokens! With that said, I'll have a better pricing scheme posted up soon!

[MameMaster!]

You should contact santoro- he's done this before and may be able to help you out. 

[tech_noob]

I've messaged Santoro twice now with no response, so to keep things moving forward, I will go ahead and post my planned pricing for the tokens:

A minimum of 10 people will be needed in order to make molding payments "easier" on everyone! With that said, here is the pricing for the molding (the total cost is $800, or $200 for each side-- two types of tokens equals four sides):

   10 people- $80 (molding fee per person)
   15 people- $55
   20 people- $40
   25 people- $32
   30 people- $27

I will need PMs and posts locked in by the end of March 31st. if we don't reach the minimum, then I will not proceed with TokensDirect. With that said, I will also need all 5000 tokens sold in order to make this happen. I don't want an extra 2500 tokens lying around; so, here are the pricing options for the tokens:

   $10 for 50 tokens
   $20 for 100 tokens
   $35 for 200 tokens
   $60 for 500 tokens
   $100 for 1000 tokens
!!!This once again does not include the molding fees, which are priced above!!!

[tech_noob]

Okay, so I have 1500 tokens spoken for officially with two people signed up (including myself). We need 8 more people officially to get the molding fees down to a reasonable price, so feel free to snag some tokens today! Also, I have been in contact with someone who can produce some vector images, so once I get back to him, we will have some snazzed up images to post soon! 

[Malenko]

I can totally do 200 tokens, no problem, well unless its an extra $55 or more for molding, ya know?

[Mr_Numbers]

I can do 200 tokens.

[yotsuya]

I can totally do 200 tokens, no problem, well unless its an extra $55 or more for molding, ya know?

According to his list there, it would be $35 for the token + $85 for the molding fees for a total of $120. That's how I read it.

[JDFan]

I can totally do 200 tokens, no problem, well unless its an extra $55 or more for molding, ya know?

According to his list there, it would be $35 for the token + $85 for the molding fees for a total of $120. That's how I read it.

Think that's right -- unless more than 10 people sign up which then means less molding fee -- Not sure why he didn't just divide the molding fee into the overall cost and add it per token (ie. 5000 tokens with a $800 molding fee would be $0.16 per token in additional molding fee above the cost of the token ) that way the molding fee is spread out on the entire order rather than per person where the number of tokens ordered makes no difference on the fee (ie. as it is orders of 50 tokens pay $1.70 per token in fee where orders of 1000 pay  $0.085 per token fee as the 2 extremes - rather than everyone paying $0.16 per token in molding fee ) - then in addition the cost per token gets lower with larger orders ( $0.50 per token @50 and $0.10 per token @1000 ) so as is the cost per token if ordering 50 would be $2.20 per token while ordering 1000 would run $0.185 per token - Seems designed to discourage small orders   

If my math and interpretation is correct the current cost per token as shown assuming 10 people place orders :

 Qty
  50   $1.90 per token ( $95.00 for 50 tokens )
 100  $1.050 per token ( $105 for 100 tokens )
 200  $0.600 per token ( $120 for 200 tokens )
 500  $0.290 per token ( $145 for 500 tokens ) --  Only $20 for an extra 300 tokens over order of
                                                                          200 or $40 for 400 tokens over ordering 100 !!!!!!
1000 $0.185 per token ( $185 for 1000 tokens ) -- Only $40 for the extra 500 Tokens over 500 token order

Doesn't seem right to me but it is what it is !

[Arcade 85]

I would love to get some but i only really need like 5 of each for display. if the total cost comes down im in OR if some one wants to sell me 5 of each after the order PM plz

[tech_noob]

You are exactly right about me discouraging lower purchasing options, JDfan. I'm not a sales person, and I don't claim to be. I was hoping more people will go with the middle options, and I'm even technically discouraging the higher 1000 token option. That we overall more people would sign up, that was my reasoning for that. If we can come up with a better selling option that benefits everyone, that would be fantastic. If we go with your method of adding the molding fee in JDfan, it would be $.292 per token, where as without the molding fee, it is $.132 per token. An order of 100 tokens would be $30 bucks (plus shipping) via JDfan's method. That is fine, but in order to make it work like this, I would need all 5000 tokens sold and all the money collected before I make the transaction with TokensDirect. Does that make sense? I am totally open to all options, I just want some quality tokens for my new arcade build. 

I can totally do 200 tokens, no problem, well unless its an extra $55 or more for molding, ya know?

According to his list there, it would be $35 for the token + $85 for the molding fees for a total of $120. That's how I read it.

Think that's right -- unless more than 10 people sign up which then means less molding fee -- Not sure why he didn't just divide the molding fee into the overall cost and add it per token (ie. 5000 tokens with a $800 molding fee would be $0.16 per token in additional molding fee above the cost of the token ) that way the molding fee is spread out on the entire order rather than per person where the number of tokens ordered makes no difference on the fee (ie. as it is orders of 50 tokens pay $1.70 per token in fee where orders of 1000 pay  $0.085 per token fee as the 2 extremes - rather than everyone paying $0.16 per token in molding fee ) - then in addition the cost per token gets lower with larger orders ( $0.50 per token @50 and $0.10 per token @1000 ) so as is the cost per token if ordering 50 would be $2.20 per token while ordering 1000 would run $0.185 per token - Seems designed to discourage small orders   

If my math and interpretation is correct the current cost per token as shown assuming 10 people place orders :

 Qty
  50   $1.90 per token ( $95.00 for 50 tokens )
 100  $1.050 per token ( $105 for 100 tokens )
 200  $0.600 per token ( $120 for 200 tokens )
 500  $0.290 per token ( $145 for 500 tokens ) --  Only $20 for an extra 300 tokens over order of
                                                                          200 or $40 for 400 tokens over ordering 100 !!!!!!
1000 $0.185 per token ( $185 for 1000 tokens ) -- Only $40 for the extra 500 Tokens over 500 token order

Doesn't seem right to me but it is what it is !

[Arcade 85]

You are exactly right about me discouraging lower purchasing options, JDfan. I'm not a sales person, and I don't claim to be. I was hoping more people will go with the middle options, and I'm even technically discouraging the higher 1000 token option. That we overall more people would sign up, that was my reasoning for that. If we can come up with a better selling option that benefits everyone, that would be fantastic. If we go with your method of adding the molding fee in JDfan, it would be $.292 per token, where as without the molding fee, it is $.132 per token. An order of 100 tokens would be $30 bucks (plus shipping) via JDfan's method. That is fine, but in order to make it work like this, I would need all 5000 tokens sold and all the money collected before I make the transaction with TokensDirect. Does that make sense? I am totally open to all options, I just want some quality tokens for my new arcade build. 

I can totally do 200 tokens, no problem, well unless its an extra $55 or more for molding, ya know?

According to his list there, it would be $35 for the token + $85 for the molding fees for a total of $120. That's how I read it.

Think that's right -- unless more than 10 people sign up which then means less molding fee -- Not sure why he didn't just divide the molding fee into the overall cost and add it per token (ie. 5000 tokens with a $800 molding fee would be $0.16 per token in additional molding fee above the cost of the token ) that way the molding fee is spread out on the entire order rather than per person where the number of tokens ordered makes no difference on the fee (ie. as it is orders of 50 tokens pay $1.70 per token in fee where orders of 1000 pay  $0.085 per token fee as the 2 extremes - rather than everyone paying $0.16 per token in molding fee ) - then in addition the cost per token gets lower with larger orders ( $0.50 per token @50 and $0.10 per token @1000 ) so as is the cost per token if ordering 50 would be $2.20 per token while ordering 1000 would run $0.185 per token - Seems designed to discourage small orders   

If my math and interpretation is correct the current cost per token as shown assuming 10 people place orders :

 Qty
  50   $1.90 per token ( $95.00 for 50 tokens )
 100  $1.050 per token ( $105 for 100 tokens )
 200  $0.600 per token ( $120 for 200 tokens )
 500  $0.290 per token ( $145 for 500 tokens ) --  Only $20 for an extra 300 tokens over order of
                                                                          200 or $40 for 400 tokens over ordering 100 !!!!!!
1000 $0.185 per token ( $185 for 1000 tokens ) -- Only $40 for the extra 500 Tokens over 500 token order

Doesn't seem right to me but it is what it is !

at $30 for a 100 tokens i would be in

[Malenko]

I was told there would be no math.

[Mr_Numbers]

I was told there would be no math.

+1

[dcninja]

do a kickstarter. set your funding limit for your order and go from there with your reward tiers. i bet non-arcade people would buy them just because it's street fighter. lol then again- legality of this is sketch, may not want to make it too big.

[tech_noob]

Hello everyone. For now, this part of my project is on hold. My father passed away on Monday and I have other things to take care of at the moment. I hope you all understand, and maybe after a bit I can come
With something less confusing for everyone. Thanks everyone.



P.S.
  Since my dad was a carpenter and I never got a chance to tell him about my project, I'm dedicating my cabinet to him. I think he would really like it...

[yotsuya]

Hello everyone. For now, this part of my project is on hold. My father passed away on Monday and I have other things to take care of at the moment. I hope you all understand, and maybe after a bit I can come
With something less confusing for everyone. Thanks everyone.



P.S.
  Since my dad was a carpenter and I never got a chance to tell him about my project, I'm dedicating my cabinet to him. I think he would really like it...

Sorry to hear about that, my friend. That's a nice gesture.

[dcninja]

I'll be in your shoes in a few months... I'm very sorry and if you ever need to  talk to someone we'll all be around here.