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Artwork glue?
« on: November 27, 2013, 08:18:36 am »
What glue would you guys recommend for sticking down my upper and lower monitor bezels?
I have tried pva glue which welted up (cant think of a better word), one new piece and another £20 down the swan later I have now tried pritt stick, this too is welting :(

The upper bezel will be stuck straight to mdf whereas the bottom bezel will be stuck to foam core board.
    

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 08:27:31 am »
What material are you're bezels made out of?  I work for a sign/printing company.  To adhere most media types to foam core, we use 3M spray adhesive. Don't bother trying to use it on the MDF though unless you seal it first.  The MDF will soak up most water based adhesives like a sponge if it isn't sealed or painted.  Another option would be contact cement (like what is used to adhere melamine to MDF or particle board).  I wouldn't recommend it for the foam core though, as the solvent will melt the foam if it comes into contact with it.  I can grab a can of the 3M spray adhesive and get you a part number for it if that would be helpful.  It's the best stuff we've found in 60yrs for mounting to foam core.

I'm on the other side of the pond, so I can't help you much with locating where to buy anything....

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 08:46:03 am »
The bezel material is really thin, looks like ordinary glossy photo paper. The part number would be helpful, thanks  :)
    

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Artwork glue?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 10:59:25 am »
Home Depot and lowes carry 3m spray adhesive right by glue.
It comes in a few strengths. I would think light strength would work fine

Sorry, just noticed your not in the us.
Assuming maybe you have Home Depots and lowes

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 11:38:06 am »
sounds like your problem is the artwork is absorbing the water in the glue and getting all rippled on you.

the 3M "Super 77" spray glue is probably your best bet. I would recommend you change the tip to the red tip (can comes with 2 types a white flat spray tip and red round tip) and give your bezel a fairly light dusting (should take about 6 seconds.) from about 30 to 50 cm away...wait about 30 seconds or so then apply the artwork. you want to work pretty fast because the glue will dry in about a minute. I wouldn't spray directly on the art itself, or the solvents in the glue when you first apply it will cause the paper to absorb it.

you basically want to just hold the art in place. it's not structural or anything, you just need to keep it from falling off.

once it's applied don't try to lift it off or you'll make a huge mess so make sure you get it right on the spot. once the solvent burns off (about 2 or 3 minutes), it's good to go.

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 11:48:48 am »
Thanks for the replies guys. Can't find a stockist for the super 77 spray here in the UK :(, I'm looking at nearly £30 to import a can. Anybody tried any of these:






Found 1 UK review for this 77, they purchased it thinking it would be the same as the Super 77 but it wasn't and didn't work for them.

    

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 01:33:04 pm »
The 3M Spray Mount looks to be your best bet.  Super 77 has most of the same qualities as the Spray Mount.  ie It will let you reposition it before it dries.  The photo mount looks act like super glue.  A small trick when applying your spray mount is to stay about 150 mm's (6 inches) above the paper and spray in wide sweeps and releasing the sprayer when you have reached the other side of your artwork and continue the process top to bottom until the paper is coated.  It helps to have helping hands to keep the unapplied end elevated until you are ready to apply it to the surface.

For good application techniques of the glue start watching video at about 1:26.

And when you get your spray adhesive don't be afraid to experiment before you dive right in.

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Artwork glue?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 01:49:01 pm »
Wouldn't a photography or frame shop be helpful in figuring out what's available local to you
« Last Edit: November 27, 2013, 02:46:22 pm by mgb »

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 06:47:01 pm »
Found 1 UK review for this 77, they purchased it thinking it would be the same as the Super 77 but it wasn't and didn't work for them.

super 77 actually goes by both names. the industrial is called scotch weld 77 and the "home use" is called super 77. the industrial formula uses different chemicals to comply with certain chemical regulations in California (and likely in the EU too).


i swear by super 77 which i use when recovering pooltables. ive used several other types of glue when we've run out and unable to get super 77. nothing is the same not even 3M hi tack 76. (which is supposed to be similar)

i would think the spray mount would be your best bet.

dont forget, you really just need it to stay in place while you put your glass in place. you arent going to be hanging off it or  anything.

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2013, 10:11:45 am »
Thanks for all your help guys, I have ordered the spray mount. Just hope this doesnt wreck my 3rd piece  :-\
    

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Artwork glue?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2013, 10:15:13 am »
Go light with it

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2013, 11:18:33 pm »
Not to jack the thread but how would you seal a control panel? Im having someone do a custom cp overlay and  does that get sprayed on top of the wood or does it just lay there being held down by the plexi??

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2013, 02:27:47 am »
You just lay the plexi over the artwork, your buttons will keep it sandwiched together.

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2013, 11:53:58 am »
You just lay the plexi over the artwork, your buttons will keep it sandwiched together.

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Ahh ok, thanks a lot.

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Re: Artwork glue?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2013, 07:25:49 am »
This stuff is fantastic  :applaud:

Sticks brilliantly but can be removed and re-applied if you need to adjust. Thanks for all your help guys :)