Modern Motherboards and Windows XP

[ID4]

That's ok, I enjoy the discussion.  My original concern was resolved, and then it went in a different direction.

ID4, that's a very interesting technology.  My first impression was that it wouldn't be a replacement for traditional CRT's because while it may not have a native refresh rate, it does have a native resolution because it's made of fixed array tubes creating individual pixels.  The "pixels" aren't created by a scanning electron beam.  BUT, each discrete pixel is created using a red, green, and blue tube, so it's not much different than a shadow mask, which also has a fixed dot pitch.  It's possible that if each pixel group is fine enough, this technology will be someday be able to present an image that is indistinguishable from a real CRT, but this will take some HLSL-style processing.

FED can work like CRT, in "analog-mode", some links:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2138644&goto=nextnewest

About the native resolution part: Through a Beyond3D thread I found a part of a Sony patent where it is described how their FEDs would be able to not only operate on a fixed native resolution, as each half of two adjacent "sub-pixel fields" in the emitter grid would work together to light the area in between two designated "sub-pixels" (or really dots) on the phosphor surface as I understand it.

Apparently this is a variation on the same technique that would be used for rectifying dead pixels, i.e. modifying which parts of the phosphor surface are targeted by the emitters and "varying field intensity" accordingly to compensate for lost brightness. This would mean, I take it, that even though FED monitors are technically known as fixed-pixel displays there would be no need for vile scalers to display different resolutions and that they would have a smooth, CRT-like look about them. I like them more already

FED Patent:

http://www.google.com/patents/US6559602?hl=en

This creates the appearance of a greater resolution than is physically there, or in other words, creates a pseudo resolution. For example, by applying half-pixel addressing and varying the intensity level of the electron emission, an FED is created which appears to have much greater resolution that it actually has. Thus, such an FED will have a higher clarity than a fixed pixel conventional FED. Therefore, analog-like performance is created since the designer can obtain a variable resolution on a fixed pixel display. This is a departure from known FEDs, which provide fixed performance in resolution due to the fixed number of cathode sub-pixels (i.e., the fixed number of electron emitters 112 or emitter cones of FIGS. 1-3). This half-pixel addressing is similar to half pixel addressing techniques performed in CRT type devices employing an aperture grill design. Such an example of a conventional CRT including an aperture grill includes TRINITRON CRTs produced and commercially available from the Sony Electronics Inc., of Park Ridge, N.J. USA.

Again, this half pixel addressing allows for a pseudo resolution that is analog-like in performance. It is generally noted the FIGS. 12A-12F are not necessarily drawn to scale, but drawn to illustrate the various addressing and driving techniques.

[Tithis]

Frankly I don't think we are THAT far off from having a decent replacement for CRT, at least as far as most people are going to notice.

All I want is a high contrast monitor with a high enough resolution to make HLSL scanline scaling artifacts unnoticeable and high enough refresh to likewise make tearing issues unnoticeable.  If a 4K 240HZ OLED monitor came out tomorrow cheap enough I'd have no issue using one of those in a machine.

[Sledge]

Frankly I don't think we are THAT far off from having a decent replacement for CRT, at least as far as most people are going to notice.

All I want is a high contrast monitor with a high enough resolution to make HLSL scanline scaling artifacts unnoticeable and high enough refresh to likewise make tearing issues unnoticeable.  If a 4K 240HZ OLED monitor came out tomorrow cheap enough I'd have no issue using one of those in a machine.

'cheap enough' being the main factor for a lot of people i would think...
if it's going to cost someone $1k for that...

[rCadeGaming]

...and it still won't look quite right, and it'll still add input lag

[ID4]

Frankly I don't think we are THAT far off from having a decent replacement for CRT, at least as far as most people are going to notice.

All I want is a high contrast monitor with a high enough resolution to make HLSL scanline scaling artifacts unnoticeable and high enough refresh to likewise make tearing issues unnoticeable.  If a 4K 240HZ OLED monitor came out tomorrow cheap enough I'd have no issue using one of those in a machine.

OLED have lag like LCD (retina retention), some panel makers are adding "black frame insertion" to resolve this, anyway OLED does not appear to enter the market for totally due to high costs and the difficulty of manufacture, not to mention the rapid aging of the blue component.

The only real alternative is the "ThinCRT" = FED, which by the way is much easier to manufacture than LCD.

I honestly do not think OLED reaches to replace LCD.

As I said, a lot of money has been spent on improving the LCD, so will take a few years to see the FED.

Maybe even if there is a small niche market for the arcade and the retro, it is possible that a manufacturer is dedicated to manufacture CRTs for this market, as happened with vinyls, and until recently with typewriters.

[Sledge]

Won't be using XP, but figured this should go here as it's to do with modern hardware..

I'm planning on getting a new mobo/cpu combo, but just wondering if anyone has any experience with a cpu such as an Intel G3240?
Would it be worth getting one of these? or should i spend an extra $150 to get an i5 4460 or similar? (trying to keep the costs down)

Current cpu is an E8500...

[Tithis]

I'm curious since the PC I just built for my machine has the 8500, but what limits are you running into with it?

[Sledge]

I'm curious since the PC I just built for my machine has the 8500, but what limits are you running into with it?

Some Cave games run slow or have issues keeping 100%
like Muchi Muchi Pork

[cools]

I'm getting similar urges about the Cave games, but keeping them surpressed at the moment - I've owned them all on PCB so the slowdown being different stops me worrying about having a machine that can actually play them. There's every possibility that getting the emulation correct will require more power than they currently need to run 100%