Arcade Art Book Kickstarter

[pbj]

CLAP HARDER

[yotsuya]

Oh, and I like how that render makes the seam look almost non-existent...

Yeah when it's just a page or 2 the seam isn't that bad but when it's 200+ pages there is no way to lay it flat like that so you lose a good portion of the middle of the pages add to that they are also not all center pages so the pic will not be across a single page but the front of 1 page and the back of another and having them line up is not going to happen.

One thing I don't understand with the new timeline is according to Tim the book was ready to go to print so why now do they have to start over from scratch. (makes you wonder how complete the original version actually was ) - though I guess it could be the new layout needed since the dimensions of the book are different if they are going with the stock Bitmap books layout of 9" tall x 6.7" wide.

I'm wondering if the books will just be 6.7" tall and 9" wide. The campaign didn't promise any sizes or dimensions.

[BadMouth]

I'm pretty sure they stated it would be bigger than the usual bitmap books.
I don't care enough about it to bother trying to find the comment though.

[offset]

In my opinion, this guy is a fraud until he delivers.  Twitter seems to be the best place for updates about this and other projects he works on - https://twitter.com/woodpunk

[pbj]

Shush and give him some more money.  Rent's due in two days.

[vwalbridge]

Speaking of Kickstarter Houdini. This popped up on the nets today:

Video Game Kickstarter Disappears With Over $30,000

[yotsuya]

Thanks for the link!

This gem was in the comments...

[BadMouth]

Thanks for the link!

This gem was in the comments...

That's what I thought about the $9 computer, but those hipsters delivered.
Honestly I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad about them pulling it off.
It's cool they did, but I hate being wrong.

[yotsuya]

Thanks for the link!

This gem was in the comments...

That's what I thought about the $9 computer, but those hipsters delivered.
Honestly I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad about them pulling it off.
It's cool they did, but I hate being wrong.

Those guys seemed better organized. I always had a concern with the Art Book on whether or not any legalities would hold it up, but not necessarily the printing process.

[Vigo]

That's what I thought about the $9 computer, but those hipsters delivered.

Ironically, delivery is the second most common position held by hipsters.

[BadMouth]

For me, it took an annoying turn when he started adding tons of other items that had nothing to do with the book.
(framed marquees, a music album, stretched canvas prints, cnc carved arcade sign, canvas print of sideart, t-shirt, star wars memorabilia?!)

[offset]

What is this ?

http://www.bitmapbooks.co.uk/collections/all/products/artcade-the-book-of-classic-arcade-game-art

[yotsuya]

That is where this Kickstarter has led to.

[BadMouth]

Book is in production.  Larger update supposed to be posted this weekend, hopefully with release dates.
I just want my e-book.  I'm glad I didn't get a physical copy since the marquees are going to be split between two pages.

[JDFan]

Book is in production.  Larger update supposed to be posted this weekend, hopefully with release dates.
I just want my e-book.  I'm glad I didn't get a physical copy since the marquees are going to be split between two pages.

Good to hear it might actually get released and totally agree it pretty much defeats the entire thing to have every image split down the middle - distorting every image. Hopefully the digital images will be decent resolution and not just copies of the readily available lower image marquee files and be kept as a single image and not a low res. scan of the book including the crease in the middle of each image !! 

Then again they'll probably pull a Mikonos and add a bunch of watermarks to every image with a link to his website to purchase printed copies 

[Rick]

pull a Mikonos

And that, my friends, is why I love these forums.

[BadMouth]

FYI, I received my digital copy yesterday and people are reporting receiving the books.
The digital copy is done right, no lines in the middle of the marquees or anything like that.

My plan for it is to rip off design styles and sample colors to make original, but proper looking marquees for future projects.
 

The book is available for purchase here:
http://www.bitmapbooks.co.uk/products/artcade-the-book-of-classic-arcade-game-art?variant=6989580099

[JDFan]

FYI, I received my digital copy yesterday and people are reporting receiving the books.
The digital copy is done right, no lines in the middle of the marquees or anything like that.

My plan for it is to rip off design styles and sample colors to make original, but proper looking marquees for future projects.
 

The book is available for purchase here:
http://www.bitmapbooks.co.uk/products/artcade-the-book-of-classic-arcade-game-art?variant=6989580099

What format and size are the images in the PDF - ie. can they be resized for printing images without introducing artifacts or are they lower resolution ?

Hmmm -- How do you sell out of a PDF version of a book ?

[yotsuya]

Easy, you limit it so people buy your physical stock on hand.

[JDFan]

Easy, you limit it so people buy your physical stock on hand.

LOL - yeah I guess but most people buying the PDF version wouldn't buy the hard copy and vice versa.

I figure they make more profit selling the PDF anyway since the production cost is nothing but the download bandwidth at this point and you'd think after 3 years in production they'd want to recoup the investment any way they could but if they don't want the sale   

[yotsuya]

Once the PDF gets hacked, nobody's going to want to buy the book anymore anyway I bet.

[JDFan]

Once the PDF gets hacked, nobody's going to want to buy the book anymore anyway I bet.

All the more reason to not have it unavailable for purchase ! 

[BadMouth]

What format and size are the images in the PDF - ie. can they be resized for printing images without introducing artifacts or are they lower resolution ?

The pdf pages are sized 23.39"x8.27" including borders, so they are a good bit smaller than original.
Not sure of the resolution.  They'd do if you had fairly low standards, but don't compare to vector images already available.

The attached pic is from a screen grab.
Image came out 1363x486 pixels.
I shrank it before attaching because I'm not trying to help pirate their book, only answer your question.
The marquee is probably available elsewhere anyway.

EDIT: I guess the resolution of my screen grab isn't really relevant. 

[JDFan]

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The pdf pages are sized 23.39"x8.27" including borders, so they are a good bit smaller than original.
Not sure of the resolution.

Seems that would be at 72PPI (IIRC thats the default for most pdf viewers) which would mean they are a medium resolution (1684x595 pixels with border - (ie. 23.30" x 72 pixels per inch = 1684 pixels ) since from your description of them it seems they'd be less than 7017 x 2481 pixels that 300 PPI would be so if printing at 300 PPI they'd be around 5" x 2" a bit small if not resized but would probably work pretty well for some light box prints @ 150 PPI - they'd come out 11.22" x 3.97" without resizing them. So not bad for the $16 +/-. Thanks for the info 

[yotsuya]

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The pdf pages are sized 23.39"x8.27" including borders, so they are a good bit smaller than original.
Not sure of the resolution.

Seems that would be at 72PPI (IIRC thats the default for most pdf viewers) which would mean they are a medium resolution (1684x595 pixels with border - (ie. 23.30" x 72 pixels per inch = 1684 pixels ) since from your description of them it seems they'd be less than 7017 x 2481 pixels that 300 PPI would be so if printing at 300 PPI they'd be around 5" x 2" a bit small if not resized but would probably work pretty well for some light box prints @ 150 PPI - they'd come out 11.22" x 3.97" without resizing them. So not bad for the $16 +/-. Thanks for the info 

PL1? Is that you?

[Malenko]

PL1? Is that you?

Ugh calling someone PL1 is almost as bad as calling them X2. Not cool bro. 

[JDFan]

Ugh calling someone PL1 is almost as bad as calling them X2. Not cool bro. 

Not even close !! - Yots is just afraid of a bit of Math and lumps everyone that references any in a post  together.   

[yotsuya]

No, I just think it's funny you seem to want the PDF of the book to print out the marquees, which kind of defeats the purpose of them publishing a physical book.

[BadMouth]

Step 1: buy acquire book
Step 2: print marquees
Step 3:
           

[yotsuya]

No, I don't think JDFan want to do anything sketchy, I'm just thinking that's why they're limiting how many PDFs are available right now.

[JDFan]

No, I just think it's funny you seem to want the PDF of the book to print out the marquees, which kind of defeats the purpose of them publishing a physical book.

Well - I surely wouldn't want the physical copy of the book to print out the marquees  - Maybe it's just me -- but they pretty much already defeated the purpose of them publishing a physical book when they decided on a layout that distorted every image right in the center rather than paying a bit more per book to have each marquee on a single page rather than spread out on dual facing pages. 

I'd much rather have spent a bit more on a book that kept the images intact so that they could be viewed inside the physical book or even taken out of the book and framed for display rather than placed on facing pages with a binding in the center of the image - so was wondering what type of quality the pdf images were to see if it was worth buying that format (I had already decided not to buy the physical book - back when they decided on the layout of the book during the kickstarter. ) but was still interested in purchasing the pdf if the quality of the pictures was worth the investment.

[yotsuya]

No, I just think it's funny you seem to want the PDF of the book to print out the marquees, which kind of defeats the purpose of them publishing a physical book.

Well - I surely wouldn't want the physical copy of the book to print out the marquees  - Maybe it's just me -- but they pretty much already defeated the purpose of them publishing a physical book when they decided on a layout that distorted every image right in the center rather than paying a bit more per book to have each marquee on a single page rather than spread out on dual facing pages. 

Oh,  I agree with your sentiment on the worth of the physical book,  my friend.  This just all goes back to why I think they're "sold out" of the PDF right now.  Saint had the same thing pretty much happen with his book.

[JDFan]

Oh,  I agree with your sentiment on the worth of the physical book,  my friend.  This just all goes back to why I think they're "sold out" of the PDF right now.  Saint had the same thing pretty much happen with his book.

You are probably correct on their thinking - or could also be part of the agreement with the publishing company that bailed him out in order for them to make the investment in getting it to this point. (there may be some sort of revenue share that limits the number offered at that pre sale price and might be a new pricing model after release etc. 

[yotsuya]

Oh,  I agree with your sentiment on the worth of the physical book,  my friend.  This just all goes back to why I think they're "sold out" of the PDF right now.  Saint had the same thing pretty much happen with his book.

You are probably correct on their thinking - or could also be part of the agreement with the publishing company that bailed him out in order for them to make the investment in getting it to this point. (there may be some sort of revenue share that limits the number offered at that pre sale price and might be a new pricing model after release etc. 

I'm pretty sure you hit it right on the head there. :-)

Has anybody received a physical copy of the book?

[JDFan]

Has anybody received a physical copy of the book?

Here's a youtube unboxing video posted by one of the sites they sent a preview copy to posted on the kickstarter page (they show some of the inside pages around the 2:40 mark - pretty much what I thought it would be - a nice quality book with all the images ruined by the binding ! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7M4qT3P9-Q&feature=youtu.be

[menace]

Interesting--I didn't even know this existed--may have to order a copy..Small annoyance:  in his youtube videos he is asked which is his favourite marquee and he goes on about moon patrol (which I agree with) but then they cut to pictures of outrun???  He starts talking about another one and they cut to a third, completely unrelated marquee--just odd...

[JDFan]

Oh,  I agree with your sentiment on the worth of the physical book,  my friend.  This just all goes back to why I think they're "sold out" of the PDF right now.  Saint had the same thing pretty much happen with his book.

You are probably correct on their thinking - or could also be part of the agreement with the publishing company that bailed him out in order for them to make the investment in getting it to this point. (there may be some sort of revenue share that limits the number offered at that pre sale price and might be a new pricing model after release etc. 

I'm pretty sure you hit it right on the head there. :-)

Looks like they got in more stock of the PDF version    and it is once again available for purchase

[yotsuya]

Yeah, forget that, I'm more excited for this:

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Atari-Robert-V-Conte/dp/1524101036/ref=zg_bsnr_8622803011_1

Ordered!

[TKW4rr10r]

Only took about 3 years, but I got my copy in the mail today. Unfortunately it arrived damaged   
Already in contact with Tim and the publisher in getting a replacement. Hoping it won't take too long because I gotta admit the book is otherwise gorgeous. The "seam" going through the marquees doesn't bother me. I mean it's a book, after-all. I'd rather have a "spread" of the marquees than smaller artwork, but that's MHO. Hoping my t-shirt is in another package coming soon.

Been very jaded toward anything kickstarter-based, I think most of us have been burnt at least once. But it feels good to finally see something come out of this, even though in my case its bitter-sweet. I never got the impression this was not going to happen, but three years is a bit of a stretch. Tim seemed/seems very dedicated in getting the art the appreciation it deserves, so I give him props for sticking with it.

[ark_ader]

I have all this artwork. I'm sure most of you do too. Why would I go and buy a book with the images cut in the middle. 

I would avoid buying this unless you have nothing else to spend your money on...