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S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« on: September 01, 2013, 11:33:52 am »
I decided to do something different, been getting real bored of doing the same thing over so here we go

- Inspired by this guy -



I am attempting to make my own version with several tweaks. One being in size, after doing a few mockups I found his to be quite big for something that just sits on a desk. It will be a tight space in mine but I prefer it to not be a tank.

This is to fit any motherboard about the size of one of those small "Dell Optiplex" office computers and a slim line powersupply. I can get them for $20 all over Sacramento. It can obviously work for anything smaller as well like and Android stick or something but decided to go a familiar route this time and I already have some parts.

With some ideas and a rough sketch\blueprints I started cutting last night





Probably not the motherboard I will be using but it is roughly the same size. (pictured is also VGA+Audio to HDMI box & wires)





Had to come up with a clever way to keep the side supports small so as to save space for the internals. Thin but stable pieces.



Got an HDMI panel from the ebays and painted it black for the back. It will have two ports, the HDMI and AC socket (maybe USB too).



I haven't got a theme yet but will figure something out soon enough. Unlike the other stand alone panel this will have control panel art as well as a marquee art (still debating lighting it up).

More updates later  :cheers:
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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2013, 12:59:50 pm »
Ahhh another one on the boards so soon.  :angel:. I'm starting to like these to be honest. Ill be watching this one Cory. I'm sure you will knock this out of the park in your usual style mate. :applaud: :applaud:

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2013, 02:45:06 pm »
What type of buttons and joystick are you planning on ? (looking at the space between the supports toward the front of the CP there doesn't seem to be much space for the MOBO and joystick\buttons to both fit in there.)

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2013, 05:26:40 pm »
Ahhh another one on the boards so soon.  :angel:. I'm starting to like these to be honest. Ill be watching this one Cory. I'm sure you will knock this out of the park in your usual style mate. :applaud: :applaud:

I have been watching the other one too, hopefully I am successful. Thanks for the support :)

What type of buttons and joystick are you planning on ? (looking at the space between the supports toward the front of the CP there doesn't seem to be much space for the MOBO and joystick\buttons to both fit in there.)

There isn't much space, especially considering that I am using the same buttons I always use that are rather long. But if my measurements hold then all will be well. All the larger components will be nicely tucked away in the back where the marquee resides, if I didn't put that there this project would fail (using a desktop pc anyways)

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 11:14:24 pm »
Damn, I might have to make it a little bit bigger in height. You were right about the buttons, I didn't take into account the length when the switches are attached. SO I either have to re-cut the side panels or use a motherboard from a laptop.....which I would do if I didn't just give away all my laptop parts to make space in my workbench storage.

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 11:52:56 pm »
Damn, I might have to make it a little bit bigger in height. You were right about the buttons, I didn't take into account the length when the switches are attached. SO I either have to re-cut the side panels or use a motherboard from a laptop.....which I would do if I didn't just give away all my laptop parts to make space in my workbench storage.

 :banghead:

Thought it looked a bit tight ! -- at least you found out before completing assembly ! - I only suspected because I ran into the same problem on my bartop build (I had downsized someone's plans to 75% of original size) - when putting the parts inside after assembly the admin buttons at the top of the CP were rubbing against the CPU Fan if I moved the MOBO all the way forward which meant cutting a hole in the back panel to fit in the PSU ( At first I thought it was going to mean redoing the whole thing but was able to make it just fit by making the cutout in the back panel to gain an extra 1\2 inch )

Can you gain enough room by routing out the bottom panel where the MOBO is going to sit ??
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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 12:25:31 am »
Damn, I might have to make it a little bit bigger in height. You were right about the buttons, I didn't take into account the length when the switches are attached. SO I either have to re-cut the side panels or use a motherboard from a laptop.....which I would do if I didn't just give away all my laptop parts to make space in my workbench storage.

 :banghead:

Thought it looked a bit tight ! -- at least you found out before completing assembly ! - I only suspected because I ran into the same problem on my bartop build (I had downsized someone's plans to 75% of original size) - when putting the parts inside after assembly the admin buttons at the top of the CP were rubbing against the CPU Fan if I moved the MOBO all the way forward which meant cutting a hole in the back panel to fit in the PSU ( At first I thought it was going to mean redoing the whole thing but was able to make it just fit by making the cutout in the back panel to gain an extra 1\2 inch )

Can you gain enough room by routing out the bottom panel where the MOBO is going to sit ??

The base is only 3/8"

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 12:35:10 am »
Would Goldleafs fit?


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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 01:12:07 am »
Would Goldleafs fit?


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Probably but then that means I have to spend more money......

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 02:18:34 am »
Would Goldleafs fit?
Probably but then that means I have to spend more money......
I guess that would tie up considerable resources.   ::)

It's not like you can use the current buttons on another build anytime soon.   :duckhunt


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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 07:10:29 am »
Would Goldleafs fit?
Probably but then that means I have to spend more money......
It's not like you can use the current buttons on another build anytime soon.   :duckhunt
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So true, I actually have another Half-Size to be built.......or two......

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 07:14:57 am »
I am on ultimarc now and can't find any gold leaf pl1 or pl2 buttons.....

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 08:51:44 am »
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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2013, 09:03:22 am »
:applaud: 

This looks like it could be fun. I'd like to have one for portability/ease of setup for special occasions at work. I might have to steal a page or 3 from you Cory.

Thanks. I like the height I came up with so I think I will keep that the same and make it a bit longer towards the back.......

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 09:09:07 am »
"Stand-alone MAME"? Try Sexy And Mobile!

Besides that, the "A" in "And" is almost never used in an acronym... Maybe you need to call it sexy "&" mobile... Soo - S&M??

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2013, 09:16:41 am »
Soo - S&M??

 :laugh2:

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2013, 09:22:58 am »
Anyone got any ideas on how to secure the bottom half of the marquee? Where it runs into the control panel.

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2013, 09:29:41 am »
Anyone got any ideas on how to secure the bottom half of the marquee? Where it runs into the control panel.

Trim the depth of the CP at the back, so it creates a channel for it to sit in? Then, use some black channel molding on the top and bottom.

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2013, 09:57:48 am »
Anyone got any ideas on how to secure the bottom half of the marquee? Where it runs into the control panel.

Trim the depth of the CP at the back, so it creates a channel for it to sit in? Then, use some black channel molding on the top and bottom.

What?

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2013, 10:11:38 am »
Anyone got any ideas on how to secure the bottom half of the marquee? Where it runs into the control panel.

Maybe a piece of inside corner moulding ( http://www.homedepot.com/p/Stabilit-1-2-in-x-3-4-in-x-8-ft-White-PVC-Tile-Inside-Corner-Moulding-FRP-ISC-WHITE/202083289#.UiSc-T_pwrx ) If you can find the right thickness - tacked into place with staples or finishing nails from the backside so they don't show.

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2013, 10:26:40 am »

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2013, 10:52:02 am »
These machines are great hope you get over your problems be great to see this complete



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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2013, 12:04:37 pm »
I love the support, thanks fellas.  :cheers:

I did some more measuring and have decided to say screw it and build the thing without re-cutting the sides. If it doesn't fit I might throw in an android on a stick but most likely I will keep the first one for myself and put a USB hub in there with a USB stick containing all the programs and games I would want to play. Like a super Joystick....

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2013, 08:49:15 am »
Shell completed. Time to pretty it up and design the CP\Marquee art and get to work on electronics. I might go with some laptop off of craigslist. I have a guy who bought one of my half-sizes begging me for one of these so it most likely is going to him.....don't hit me but he is going to pay $650 if all goes well

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2013, 09:55:16 am »
for the marquee, do it as you would do it with a speaker brace just thinner...

run a baton or bracing across near the cp same angle as your top, and use the same aluminum L-channels to hold the marquee.

screw in the l-channel to the baton underneath the CP.

Also, $650.00, geez you have a kick ass demand where you live.  Most people cant move a full size units for that price, let alone a barstick....Way to go Cory... :applaud:
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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2013, 10:20:17 am »
Very nice!
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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2013, 10:28:09 am »
don't hit me but he is going to pay $650 if all goes well

Everybody loves a l'il S&M!

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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2013, 10:49:19 am »
Everybody loves a l'il S&M!

---gosh-darn--- you!

Very nice!

 :cheers:

for the marquee, do it as you would do it with a speaker brace just thinner...
run a baton or bracing across near the cp same angle as your top, and use the same aluminum L-channels to hold the marquee.
screw in the l-channel to the baton underneath the CP.

I was thinking that would be the easiest route. I would have to remove the bottom panel (the only panel that is removable) after painting and screw in the L-Channel like normal then glue the control panel down after art and buttons\encoder is complete.

I like the feel of this thing, it seems like it will work out nicely.

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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2013, 11:04:50 am »
---gosh-darn--- you!

Yes, Mistress!

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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2013, 11:55:44 am »
Also Cory,

Degenatrons offered a cool way to mount the CP with no screws showing and still have it removable, I wouldnt glue it for maint purposes.

Make some access holes in the base you can screw in from the bottom of your CP baton, maybe look into making you batons a bit thinner wider so you can can use 1 1/2" 6-32 wood screws.  They dont need to be that thick as there is no weight.

Just relooked at your batons.

Just an idea....
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Re: S.A.M. - Stand Alone MAME
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2013, 02:46:52 am »
I will be able to access the the CP for maintenance if needed by removing the base so gluing it down isn't an issue for me (I don't think).

The only thick baton is the 4 base ones that have screws going into them. I got a hold of an optiplex but plan on using it for one of the Half-Sized machines in progress. I have found two cheap laptops that are 100% working, one will go into this (if all goes well) and the other one will go into an upgrade to one of my old bartops that a customer shelled out some cash for to make better.

Cheers, more updates soon, working on the art right now. I figure I would come up with some custom thing instead of just picking out some art on google. Would be nice if I can get the CP & Marquee art to blend with each other.

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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2013, 03:53:31 am »
Work in progress - Art

Just messing around with the control panel. I didn't know how much I suck with photoshop but I tried.

 :dunno

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 04:37:38 am »
Messed about some more, kind of liking where this is going.....






Edit: Outlined the SAM text in white, use to be this (click to enlarge);

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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 08:55:34 am »
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2013, 09:24:59 am »
Messed about some more, kind of liking where this is going.....



FTFY

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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2013, 07:10:28 pm »
Messed about some more, kind of liking where this is going.....



FTFY

Sneaky bastard!!!!  :angry:

Thanks Louis, I hope you get some use out of my super long PM

Anyone else care to comment on the art, maybe point me in a certain direction?

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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2013, 08:31:57 pm »
Messed about some more, kind of liking where this is going.....



FTFY

Color scheme seems off.

Instead of shades of blue, shouldn't it be gray, with about 47 more shades?  :duckhunt


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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2013, 09:12:27 pm »
I quit!

I quit!

I'm out, deleting all my posts as we speak!

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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2013, 09:33:37 pm »
Come on, Cory.

We were just joking around.

“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
If you pardon, we will mend:
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If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
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And Robin shall restore amends.”
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I do prefer your artwork in shades of blue to Rick's suggestions.   ;D


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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2013, 09:39:56 pm »
I was just playin, you know I love you guys.

Going to print the art tomorrow so I can move forward on this build so wanted to make changes, if any, before I call it done.