When I built my cab It was with zero budget so I went with some zippyy joysticks. Not to horrible but I find I need something better now. I grew up playing in the arcades in the late 80's early 90's and I long for the feel of those sticks...street fighter, mk, etc. I believemost of those were happ sticks? So after reading a thousand posts/reviews I've narrowed it down to happ comps, supers or il comps. I already have dedicated 4 way, so these will be general purpose, I have about 20 games I play most, some are shumps, others are fighters, and some windjammers/metal slug types. I'm leaning towards the ILs so I can match the colors on my cab. My main issue is my panel is 13/16 thick MDF. I do not have the means to route out any wood. Will the IL's or happs be long enough to bottom mount without a recess cut? If anyone can post a measurement from the top mount to the bottom of the bat top it would help me tremendously! I ddon't mind a shorter stick, but I don't want it so short its a pain to play! Any other opinions on my selections as what one prefers over another would help too. For those wondering why my panel is 13/16...its a golden tee cab I converted and was what they used. I may someday recut a new one out of 1/2 or 5/8 but can't right now. Thanks.