Dreamcast to Jamma? For Marvel vs Capcom 2 Arcade

[CoryBee]

Anyone know where I can get one of these?

I see pictures but never any purchase links

[CoryBee]

Never mind on this, I am going the XBOX route.

I am going to get one of these I think, heard there were issues with grounding for controls though, so still figuring that out.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180947491613



Either that or do a gamepad hack and use an "xbox vga cable to arcade monitor" board like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250888156740?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330701563570



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(Posted wrong type of vga cable)

I think I will go with the latter as I heard interesting things about the chinese jamma issues on the first board I posted.

[emphatic]

If you buy RGB scart cables for your consoles, then this is really good: http://etim.net.au/scart2arcV20/scart2arc2.htm

[CoryBee]

This should work then yea?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310576614002

[Malenko]

Dreamcast to jamma? Why not just get a VGA box, snip the 31Hz wire, and wire up a couple of controller hacks?

[CoryBee]

Dreamcast to jamma? Why not just get a VGA box, snip the 31Hz wire, and wire up a couple of controller hacks?

I am going the xbox route now, but I thought of that and didn't want to pay the $ for it.

I realized in my first post I posted an xbox 360 vga cable.....I cant find one for orig xbox...---steaming pile of meadow muffin---

[CoryBee]

So guys, how would you go about it?  Turning an orig xbox into an arcade "board" that will replace a Marvel vs Capcom board in an arcade cabinet.

[CoryBee]

I basically just need the xbox to output to the arcade monitor without much hassle. With parts that are in the USA.

I can take care of pad hacking some controllers and providing an amp for the sound.

 

[keilmillerjr]

Here is one option for the xbox.

http://www.ultimarc.com/xba.html

The X-Box Adaptor converts the output from the I-PAC (must be in PS/2 keyboard mode) into XBox commands.

Ultimarc no longer makes dreamcast adaptors. 

http://www.ultimarc.com/dreamcast.html

Dreamcast to JAMMA Adaptor
Includes a sync separator circuit
This adaptor is also the correct type for use with multi-frequency monitors which have a VGA plug (eg W-G D9500) These monitors should be connected direct to this adaptor in all cases, even if you have a J-PAC
Click To Order
To connect an PS to a JAMMA cabinet you need the following items:
D-C Controls Adaptor
D-C to J-PAC/Speaker Adaptor
J-PAC with PS/2 keyboard cable option. see our main order page for this item.
IMPORTANT INSTALLATION INSTRUCTION: When connecting this cable to the J-PAC you need to remove all of the frequency jumpers (ie 15, 25, 31) on the J-PAC, which allows all signals to pass through. Only later J-PAC boards have this facility. On older J-PAC boards you will need a replacement chip to enable this function. Please email for details.

The picture below shows a complete console to JAMMA setup.

[CoryBee]

Will the j-pac handle all of this?

[CoryBee]

Will the j-pac handle all of this?

Ugh, $70

[NickG]

I have made a cable before from a scart cable.   The ones from US often are not fully wired and thus do not have all the conductors necessary. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-Scart-Cable-for-Sega-Dreamcast-Saturn-Super-Nintendo-Gamecube-DC-SNES-XBOX-/161034622565


of course, it is also possible to solder directly to the output header, and if this is to be installed in a cab where it will remain static, motion/weak joints is less a concern.

Xbox diy is amore affordable alternate to the ultimarc stuff

[Malenko]

the xbox version isnt anywhere near as good as the DC version though, just like the PS2 version the xbox version is missing a TON of frames. g'luck with it though

[emphatic]

The XBox picture will be interlaced as well, as it can only output 480i, not 240p. Get hold of a real RGB scart cable for your DC, then do this:

http://pc2jamma.mameworld.info/arc_dc4.html

[CoryBee]

the xbox version isnt anywhere near as good as the DC version though, just like the PS2 version the xbox version is missing a TON of frames. g'luck with it though

What do you mean exactly? I watched this and there are subtle differences but nothing drastic....

[Malenko]

What do you mean exactly? I watched this and there are subtle differences but nothing drastic....

I had this super long reply typed up but I couldn't understand it. There's just less frames of animation on PS2/XBOX. If you're used to the DC/Arcade the timing is going to be off when you play XBOX/PS2 , if you play XBOX/PS2 enough then the timing is going to feel off when you go back to DC/Arcade. The DC version is just better 

[BadMouth]

Try and get it running in Makaron and see if you can score a PC that will run it full speed.
Makaron isn't quite as demanding as Demul. 
IIRC, I had it running full speed on a 2.8Ghz Athlon X2 with 8600GT video card.

[CoryBee]

Well it is already set in stone now. I really appreciate the input. What I understand is, don't play one and then the other or you wont like it

I got already have the xbox, ordered 2 controllers & the game, convinced him to get rid of the arcade monitor for an LCD screen so no need for input to that. Also get the old hardware, monitor + gameboard with jamma harness.

Cheers! 

[CoryBee]

I honestly don't know what to do with the monitor and game board....

Should I build a cabinet from it? My first actual arcade with arcade parts....

Should I part out the board and thermite the monitor (joking), I imagine not many people would want to pay shipping on a beast like that....

[BobA]

Build an actual jamma cab with the parts and you will be ready for any real jamma boards that turn up.

[opt2not]

Build an actual jamma cab with the parts and you will be ready for any real jamma boards that turn up.

This would be hard to do on-the-cheap, if he's looking to get MvC2 running... 
He'd have to get a full Naomi set-up + the cart...which in total would probably run him over $300 at today's prices.

Honestly, getting a DC connected to a cabinet is easier than an XBOX.

For one, a VGA box can be had fairly cheap -- I paid $35 a little while back. The 15khz mod is really easy to pull off, it's just a matter of cutting a wire (or attaching a switch to it - in case you wanna still use it for 31khz monitors).
Also, DC controllers are much easier to hack, they have common-grounds and the solder points are more accessible than the XBOX.

I've got both with the ability to connect it to any Jamma wired cabinet. I went the Jpac route with my XBOX, which required me to buy a Jpac from Ultimarc, the controller interface, and the xbox A/V interface.
Luckily I have a dual-sync monitor in both my Jamma cabinets, so I'm able to run my XBOX without having to force a 15khz enabled firmware through it.  But this setup still cost me over $150 to get going.

For my DC, I first started off with a VGA box and 2 hacked controllers (courtesy of Haruman's lovely hacking handy-work) wired to a Jamma edge connector.  But I've scrapped that now that the PS360+'s support DC controls. I modded my DC to output VGA using shadow's VGA board, and now I run it directly into my Jamma box interface that has 2x PS360+'s and a UVC (<--- VGA input, converts a highres signal to work with 15khz / 24khz monitors).

In fact, I now use my Jamma Box with my XBOX (via Neoya X2VGA+) as well as XBOX360/PS3 and DC. Not the cheapest option for a console interface, but its a really robust one.

[emphatic]

Build an actual jamma cab with the parts and you will be ready for any real jamma boards that turn up.

Yeah, how big is the monitor?

[CoryBee]

I was thinking of making a dedicated MVC cab but I really have no use for that as I have it on all my mame cabs.....

Size, not sure

[emphatic]

You could build a generic JAMMA lowboy (two player) or recreate a Gauntlet type cabinet for 4 players and dedicate it to the two Dungeons & Dragons games from CAPCOM (what I would wanna do, but I can't  ). Both ideas would turn out great I'm sure, but the latter would need more attention to detail.