Will the current MAME work with this?

[darkSSide]

I have an old CP with these specs
Pentium 4
CPU 2.69 GHz
2.59 GHZ 1.24 GB RAM
Running XP pro

My question is can it run the current MAME? Or frontends like the recent Mala or Hyperspin? I really just want it to run '80's and '90's games and some Tekken and Killer Instinct ,that sort of stuff.
I know I used an older version before but since deleted it after I got my newer CP running Windows 7.
Any help is appreciated,Thanx

[paigeoliver]

You realize you basically said, "I just want to run the stuff that would run on a late 90s PC oh and also a couple of 3D titles that take ridiculous processor power to emulate".

I would probably actually run mame .106 on that rig instead of the current one. Your performance and overall experience would be a lot better. No promises on Tekken or KI though.

[chopperthedog]

.106 is the first version of the rewrite, I use .105 on my P4 rigs.



good day.

[JoeB]

Actually .107 had the video rewrite. But you can still force newer mame versions to run like the old. Read the docs.

[vimfuego]

Just to digress a little bit from the original post, I'm thinking about building a Core i3 3225 with HD Graphics 4000 system for MAME, this CPU works really well for HTPC setups.
3D games aren't of massive priority for me, however, I've seen the 'ArcadeVGA 3000' card name thrown around a lot (not sure if it's good or bad). So I guess my question is with modern hardware are the integrated graphics processors like the Intel HD 4000 going to work well for MAME 80's/90's game emulation? I'd like to think that something like the NeoGeo based Aero Fighters 3 is going to run nice without slowdowns when things get busy.

Thanks.

[lettuce]

Apparently the intel chips that have the HD3000 iGPU in them can handle mame WITH HLSL enabled (bar 1 or 2 games) at full speed. So the HD4000 should handle anything mame can throw at it even more if your not using HLSL

[vimfuego]

Do you guys know how well these HD3000, HD4000 etc GPU's work with standard resolutions? Eg 456 x 336 @ 15.72 KHz.
And is this resolution/sync freq really only an issue with CRT monitors? I'm not sure I want to go with LCD because I know they can look nasty when not in their native resolution but I'm thinking there needs to be some compromise with all this.

[RyoriNoTetsujin]

Apparently the intel chips that have the HD3000 iGPU in them can handle mame WITH HLSL enabled (bar 1 or 2 games) at full speed. So the HD4000 should handle anything mame can throw at it even more if your not using HLSL

You're sort-of misquoting me from that previous thread. To be specific: the i5-2500K can handle all of currently-playable MAME games at 100% ... CPUs below level that are pressing your luck. MAME is primarily dependent on CPU power, the GPU is mostly only used to render the HLSL effects. That includes the 3D games like Tekken, etc. It just so happens that the 2500K has just enough grunt to do it, and the HLSL is a nice bonus.  If you bought an i3-3225, for example, sure it has the HD4000 iGPU, but it's only a dual-core CPU ... that's going to choke and die a horrible death when it tries to run NFL Blitz. 

Now, like I said in your other thread, the 2500K does have some difficulty with dual/multi-monitor games specifically and only with HLSL enabled (Punch-out, Darius, etc.) but that MAY be just the way MAME implements HLSL, and/or the integrated iGPU not having enough power to handle it. I have no way to test a higher spec CPU at this moment.

Do you guys know how well these HD3000, HD4000 etc GPU's work with standard resolutions? Eg 456 x 336 @ 15.72 KHz.
And is this resolution/sync freq really only an issue with CRT monitors? I'm not sure I want to go with LCD because I know they can look nasty when not in their native resolution but I'm thinking there needs to be some compromise with all this.

Now this I have been very curious about... the Intel driver configuration utility has an area where you can create custom resolutions, but I have no way of testing it with an arcade CRT. My guess, however, is that if the HD3000 series (or better) could handle and output arcade resolutions properly, we would have already heard from someone else in the community by now.  I think it'd be a pretty big deal.  Surely I'm not the only one here running an i5! 

Wait a month, get a nice Haswell that can run 3.3 ghz or better across all 4 cores in Turbo mode (see charts here for previous i5 examples) and run HLSL, and you'll be running everything MAME can currently run, fine and dandy, on an LCD screen. That's my 2 cents.

[lettuce]

You're sort-of misquoting me from that previous thread. To be specific: the i5-2500K can handle all of currently-playable MAME games at 100% ... CPUs below level that are pressing your luck. MAME is primarily dependent on CPU power, the GPU is mostly only used to render the HLSL effects. That includes the 3D games like Tekken, etc. It just so happens that the 2500K has just enough grunt to do it, and the HLSL is a nice bonus.  If you bought an i3-3225, for example, sure it has the HD4000 iGPU, but it's only a dual-core CPU ... that's going to choke and die a horrible death when it tries to run NFL Blitz. 

To be fair both have a retail clock of 3.3ghz and seeing as MAME doesn't utilise more than 2 cores then there should be any performance gain over an i3 or i5 at the same clock

[RyoriNoTetsujin]

MAME doesn't utilise more than 2 cores then there should be any performance gain over an i3 or i5 at the same clock

Apparently, that's also no longer true. It does indeed utilize all four cores of my 2500K - quite heavily in the case of NFL Blitz (to 70~85% load across all cores.) I don't know for certain when that changed, or what the criteria is for Mame to do so, but I believe Haze also mentioned that it does utilize more than 2 cores now in some cases.

EDIT for clarity and spelling.