Barnacle Bills: Ortley Beach Legend..

[ArcadeDunce]

all these destroyed games might make you cry.  Not as much as flashbacks though. FB had all the classics.  BB's had upgraded to all newer games over the last ten years..which is why i more or less stopped going..

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Barnacle-Bills-Amusements/226067250857712?sk=photos_stream

That Simpsons is an original, i still remember my first time playing it in 1991. I'd be tempted to make an offer for the cabinet.


how much work would a cabinet need for restoring if it was in at least two feet of ocean water for a day?

[ArcadeDunce]

had to pay my respects.. how much damage could there be to the cabinet with 2 feet of ocean water for a day?

[Generic Eric]

Oh for sad!  Those pins would should be safe shouldn't they?

[ArcadeDunce]

that's what i was wondering. if the water didn't reach the playfield bottom where all the electronics are, they would be ok one would think.  if they still had the addams family in there, it'd be on my truck now ;o)

[ark_ader]

Well the Operator is going to see some better revenue in insurance claims than quarters.

Maybe they will invest in some decent games.

[ArcadeDunce]

Well the Operator is going to see some better revenue in insurance claims than quarters.

Maybe they will invest in some decent games.

agreed...they only had about 5 classics left. all the rest where redeeming games or newer crap. they used to have star wars, return of the jedi, turtles, addams family, world champion ship soccer pin, and one or two others that i used to get up at 10 AM to go and play.  it was better in the 80s

[ArcadeDunce]

hoping it's still there friday, but with trash pickup today and tommorow, i'm not hoping.  iwas going to nab pac man and the simpsons, but figured i'd ask the owner if it was ok first and sadly they never got back to me.  probably should have just loaded it up. oh well, if it's gone, back to building my own.

[ChadTower]

Doesn't matter if they can be saved or not.  The insurance company will take possession of them when they pay off his flood claim.  The insurance company will very likely destroy them as required by tax/depreciation laws.  Those laws are very specific in regard to commercial equipment.  If they pull anything for salvage then they can't write the game off as a loss on their taxes.

[ArcadeDunce]

hmm..wouldn't the insurance company just need to visit and catalouge the damage?  If what you say is the case, no wonder i never heard back from them...

[ChadTower]

hmm..wouldn't the insurance company just need to visit and catalouge the damage?  If what you say is the case, no wonder i never heard back from them...

If the insurance company is going to claim them on their own taxes as a loss then they need to have possession of them.  I'm sure a deal could be worked out with the company to keep the machines but it would substantially reduce the claim payout.

[ArcadeDunce]

hmm..wouldn't the insurance company just need to visit and catalouge the damage?  If what you say is the case, no wonder i never heard back from them...

If the insurance company is going to claim them on their own taxes as a loss then they need to have possession of them.  I'm sure a deal could be worked out with the company to keep the machines but it would substantially reduce the claim payout.

well, almost a month later and the games are still there. If they hadn't been sitting in the elements for a month, i'd still want to make an offer..better off building one now..sigh..so much history :/

[SavannahLion]

Doesn't matter if they can be saved or not.  The insurance company will take possession of them when they pay off his flood claim.  The insurance company will very likely destroy them as required by tax/depreciation laws.  Those laws are very specific in regard to commercial equipment.  If they pull anything for salvage then they can't write the game off as a loss on their taxes.

Wow... that brought up an age old memory.

I don't know if it's still there but there is  (was?) an insurance graveyard in Nevada near Sparks. The insurance towed my wrecked S10 straight from the repair shop to the yard before I ever had a chance to remove my possessions (primarily a now crappy audio system). I gave them some song and dance about how I had my school stuff in there and the insurance company agreed to let me fetch my things. So in what I understood to be a rare occurrence, I was allowed to walk into the lot and find my truck.

In the two hours I spent hunting the S10 down (I got a, "it's over in section 12a", given a hand drawn map and left to my own devices), there was a stunning amount of stuff, not just for autos, but just about everything imaginable. Boats of every description. ORVs, Quads, snowmobiles, heavy machinary, you name it, I saw it there. If you ever saw the Land of the Lost remake, it was kind of along the same lines. As a teenager I drooled over quite a bit of it.

As I was leaving, I asked the guy what does the insurance company do with it all? "Nothing." was his reply. That's right. Absolutely nothing. No recycling. No salvaging. Nothing. All that crap just sits there rotting in the Nevada desert. That was in 1997ish.

Your comment makes sense I guess. A dirty little secret insurance companies have. They can't salvage it. They can't sell it for scrap. So that stuff goes somewhere to die. To be forgotten. I haven't had an insurance company do that since though. Since that time, I changed insurance companies and their attitude has been "get a recycler to pick it up and give you a certificate of destruction." Which makes me wonder..... Is that graveyard still there? 

[ark_ader]

Doesn't matter if they can be saved or not.  The insurance company will take possession of them when they pay off his flood claim.  The insurance company will very likely destroy them as required by tax/depreciation laws.  Those laws are very specific in regard to commercial equipment.  If they pull anything for salvage then they can't write the game off as a loss on their taxes.

Wow... that brought up an age old memory.

I don't know if it's still there but there is  (was?) an insurance graveyard in Nevada near Sparks. The insurance towed my wrecked S10 straight from the repair shop to the yard before I ever had a chance to remove my possessions (primarily a now crappy audio system). I gave them some song and dance about how I had my school stuff in there and the insurance company agreed to let me fetch my things. So in what I understood to be a rare occurrence, I was allowed to walk into the lot and find my truck.

In the two hours I spent hunting the S10 down (I got a, "it's over in section 12a", given a hand drawn map and left to my own devices), there was a stunning amount of stuff, not just for autos, but just about everything imaginable. Boats of every description. ORVs, Quads, snowmobiles, heavy machinary, you name it, I saw it there. If you ever saw the Land of the Lost remake, it was kind of along the same lines. As a teenager I drooled over quite a bit of it.

As I was leaving, I asked the guy what does the insurance company do with it all? "Nothing." was his reply. That's right. Absolutely nothing. No recycling. No salvaging. Nothing. All that crap just sits there rotting in the Nevada desert. That was in 1997ish.

Your comment makes sense I guess. A dirty little secret insurance companies have. They can't salvage it. They can't sell it for scrap. So that stuff goes somewhere to die. To be forgotten. I haven't had an insurance company do that since though. Since that time, I changed insurance companies and their attitude has been "get a recycler to pick it up and give you a certificate of destruction." Which makes me wonder..... Is that graveyard still there? 

 

I'm not surprised.  There was places like this in Vegas before they cleaned it up for the real estate value.  Sparks and houses north of Reno are filled with rotting scrap junk.  I remember going to an arcade warehouse in 2001 and the OP recovered 10 machines out of a barn, all with water damage.  I'm sure there are plenty more cabinets left or buried out in the Nevada desert.  You would think with the scrap value, the old cars out there in the wastes would be worth the salvage.


Fixd

[Howard_Casto]

If if the games themselves were trashed, there are still tons of salvagable parts.  Marquees, sticks, retainers, coin doors, ect... none of that stuff is effected by water damage that much.  Just the electronics and the wood. 

[ArcadeDunce]

If if the games themselves were trashed, there are still tons of salvagable parts.  Marquees, sticks, retainers, coin doors, ect... none of that stuff is effected by water damage that much.  Just the electronics and the wood.

true, but you can still buy those new...or gently used. less cleaning..

more i think about it, the more annoyed i am.  Addams family is gone from barnacle bills, and somewhere on the ocean floor in seaside heights along with the star wars and spy hunter.  sigh. if i where rich, i'd open up the worlds biggest arcade

[Howard_Casto]

Well not always. 

Example:  The older marquees were screen printed directly onto the plexi.  You can sometimes get an old marquee in good shape if the game is popular enough, but otherwise it's that inferior print of the graphics printed on that translate stuff wedged between some plexi.  The same goes for bezels, only worse because some bezels were originally glass.  For pinball machines, the art is often 50% of the cost of the table.  The older coin doors just aren't available new anymore, ect....

I guess putting it in other terms it's the difference between getting original parts for a car as opposed to reproduction parts. 

[ArcadeDunce]

yeah, perhaps...maybe ican get them to give me the simpsons marquee. a new sign was posted 'no scrapping'...
I also noticed walking by today that the simpsons control panel somehow got knocked off and is now on the ground. dang .