Looking for a crt tv or monitor w/ vga and component.......

[Lucky Rockmore]

  Greetings forum members, I actually found out and then joined this forum AFTER I pretty much finished my arcade cabinet! Its ok though, I think it came out pretty damn good!! Ive been a member for some time but have never posted, just read threads and admired projects, and I just needed a couple hacks from Haramaun for my 360 control panel and it was the only way to get a hold of him!! lol. Ive searched through these forums and found some awesome projects and glad I wasnt alone with this hobby. Id definitally like to post my pics of cabinet which is a somewhat slim design, and its a transformers themed (one side red other side purple) for the old school autobots and decepticons with a touch of street fighter 2 hyper fighting.                                      Anyways I have a 26 inch samsung widescreen lcd monitor in there that Im currently using but im not content with it. Id like a crt tv or monitor with vga and component(maybe even s-video for Bangai-o) inputs for my Dreamcast, xbox 360, original xbox, and playstation 2 which is housed in the cabinet. Because I made it a somewhat slim fit, Im thinking Im going to have to downsize, which is fine, somewhere between a 20 to 25 inch. Any help would be appreciated,Iid love a widescreen one but I guess I want as authentic as I can get, while running some of these later systems as well. thanks guys!!! I dont know where to start or what to look for. thanks again guys

[mgb]

Hi and welcome,
 I'm not sure I've ever seen a crt tv that has vga input besides pc monitors which aren't typically over 21".
I know I've seen a lot of talk a few years ago about presentation monitors, I believe mostly made by NEC.

[Gray_Area]

The names of things confuse people. A CRT is a CRT. Some models were for home television use, and had those respective inputs. Some models were commercial/corporate use, and had those plus VGA. However, only some widescreen CRT TVs had VGA and 'component'.

[SailorSat]

Some Philips CRT TVs (32") have SCART, Component and HDMI inputs.

[apfelanni]

here in eu grundig , metz , loewe , lg , panasonic ,thomson and colani technisat can be found with vga input via sub d 15 pin or scart . there may be some more brands .. most of em are 29-(27) inch class , some 25 and 28 inch and a few in 21inch . 21inch wont make much sense , bcoz u can adapt a comp crt from eizo , nec , ibm whatever. got some eizos here f78-77/ t67/f56 and 57 , f35 and the vga picture connected with a x1/360 or dreamcast is phantastic .   

ahja , all mentioned tvs are 4:3 ratio . i never pick up a widescreen tv unless i can rip out a vga module .

[adder]

ahja , all mentioned tvs are 4:3 ratio . i never pick up a widescreen tv unless i can rip out a vga module .

i suppose if you are desperate you could use a widescreen tv, but display your arcade image in 4:3 on the widescreen tv in the middle of the screen, and then perhaps simply make up a black bezel (card, or plastic...) so that both left and right sides of the widescreen tv are hidden from sight.

of course you do need to also check a widescreen tv will actually fit inside your arcade cabinet. mind you, if u are crazy you could mount the widescreen tv vertically inside your arcade cabinet, and use the bezel to hide the top and bottom.. but now we are moving into 'madman' territory

[Gray_Area]

i suppose if you are desperate you could use a widescreen tv, but display your arcade image in 4:3 on the widescreen tv in the middle of the screen, and then perhaps simply make up a black bezel (card, or plastic...) so that both left and right sides of the widescreen tv are hidden from sight.

For bling, yes. For mental reasons.......

[Jack Burton]

You want a Sony PVM.  It satisfies all your requirements.

CRT
20" screen
VGA input*
Component Input
S-video
4:3 ratio

They make a variety of types and sizes, have a look around ebay, craigslist,  and google to see what's out there. 




*use a VGA>RGBHV like this one for your vga connections.

[rCadeGaming]

A PVM is always a good option.  That one's 15kHz only correct?  How's the scanline thickness on ~240p stuff?

OP, you should know that any TV with a component input will accept VGA through a VGA to component transcoder.  A quality transcoder may cost more than the PVM (idk what those are going for), but a quality crt with component in will be very cheap in the US. 

I doubt you'll find anything with VGA and component inputs besides a PVM, those are only so big.

[Gray_Area]

The PVMs go at least up to 25 inches. They look FAB.  Note that while that is 'component' video, it's not Component.

[rCadeGaming]

The PVMs go at least up to 25 inches.  They look FAB.

Nice on the size, can you give a description on scanline thickness?  FAB means different things to different people.

Note that while that is 'component' video, it's not Component.

I think you're confused on this.  It is Component with a capital C if that's how you're thinking of it.  It says right there that is does both RGB and YPbPr.

[Jack Burton]

A PVM is always a good option.  That one's 15kHz only correct?  How's the scanline thickness on ~240p stuff?

OP, you should know that any TV with a component input will accept VGA through a VGA to component transcoder.  A quality transcoder may cost more than the PVM (idk what those are going for), but a quality crt with component in will be very cheap in the US. 

I doubt you'll find anything with VGA and component inputs besides a PVM, those are only so big.

Yes, it is 15khz only.  31khz games could be played in interlaced mode via MAME or if the PCB supports it. 

The pitch on these is about .4 mm.  Very sharp, but not so much that it dims the image or makes the scanlines too noticeable.  I play on a .28mm monitor and I think it is acceptable. 

The NEC XM series and Mitsubishi Megaview's are both quad sync monitors that support RGB/Component.  There are also a few smaller NEC's floating about under the DM line that are similar. 

[rCadeGaming]

Nice.

31khz games could be played in interlaced mode via MAME or if the PCB supports it.

If you've got something putting out 31kHz progressive you can use an Extron Emotia or UVC or something similar to interlace it to 480i or downscale it to 240p for 15kHz tubes.