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Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« on: April 10, 2012, 05:49:34 pm »
Hi,

I originally posted this under consoles but figure this is probably the best section to inform you of my project...

I started a new arcade cabinet project and have been documenting the build on YouTube and CoinOps4 project forums.  This will be a bartop arcade cabinet that is powered by an original xbox and running coinops4 as the frontend.  This will be based on the WeeCade/bartop style.

To save room in the small cab i also disassemble to Xbox and remove key parts.  This is kind of the focus for the first couple of videos but we move on to general arcade constuction from part 3. 

I have also designed my own marquee and control panel for this cab with "CoinOps4 vs Street Fighter" theme.

Anyway,  please check out the videos and I welcome your feedback.

Part1:

Part2:

Part3:

...and more to come

Question - Should i delete the duplicate post that is under consoles section?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 05:25:34 am »
Cool, I started subscribing to your YouTube channel.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2012, 05:44:35 pm »
Ditto, like to see how this turns out. Very informative videos.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 03:12:12 pm »
Cool project, will be interested to see what you do when it comes to the controls.

I have 3 xboxes sitting in a closet as I was making media centers for my daughters.  I did my first xbox contoller hack, although the controls for the triggers aren't as reposonsive as i would like them to be.

When you get there and if you dont already know how to there is a guy DSEEMPLOYEE on youtube I think that has a whole tutorial on hacking an xbox j-stick.

Looking forward to more updates and will be looking for some innovation. :applaud:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 03:27:50 pm »
I subscribed as well! :cheers:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 12:35:51 pm »
Can anyone tell me if the plans for the weecade are suitable for a 2 player cab? is 450 long enough for a 2 player control panel

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 12:48:11 pm »
Can anyone tell me if the plans for the weecade are suitable for a 2 player cab? is 450 long enough for a 2 player control panel

Yep,  I built a few 2 player wee-cade clones with 6 buttons per player.  See
I have also made these with pinball buttons on the sides.  This makes for a really tight squeeze,  but it is very possible.


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 02:59:41 pm »
Awesome. so theres definately a decent enought play area for 2 players?. Im definately going to do a weecade after watching your vids

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2012, 05:53:54 am »
I made some progress on my xbox cabinet build since my original post on 10th April.

You can catch the next 2 videos on Youtube

Part 4:

Part5:


Shell is about complete now so can start fitting this baby out with hardware.
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 02:16:15 pm »
Awesome job! Your attention to detail is incredible and you make it look easy.
I too will be very interested in the controller connections. Please use the same great detail for that part as you did in the other videos!
Looking forward to more. Thanks!


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2012, 06:08:07 pm »
Awesome job! Your attention to detail is incredible and you make it look easy.
I too will be very interested in the controller connections. Please use the same great detail for that part as you did in the other videos!
Looking forward to more. Thanks!

As a side project,  I have been working on developing my own interface for arcade controls. 
I have created a USB keyboard encoder for PC/Mame and have this installed already in one of my cabs.  This is super easy to connect and I will add screw terminals too. 



I plan to add Xbox1 support to the device.  This is a little taxing and I have lost a lot of sleep trying to get this working.  I would really like to get this nailed soon so that I can use in my cab build.

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Part 6 is out.

In this video we fit the screen and connect up the mains power.



My prefence is to use 17" LCD Monitor but this design also works nicely with 15". I know some folks following the build on YouTube are fitting out with 19" screens, but this requires a wider (than 450mm) panel width. My plans are easily adjusted if you have a 19" monitor.

As I mention on the video, my plan was to use 1 17" LCD but I dropped it while recording, so have used a 15" LCD instead. I did not have another 17" and I was keen to make progress. At some point I may replace it. Will see what it turns out like.

The VGA converter I am using was picked up from ebay. Look for video to VGA converter or component to VGA converter. I get mine from China. It takes a long while for them to arrive.

The junction box is 30amp rated. Nothing special.

I hope you like the video and feel free to ask any questions.
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 02:23:47 pm »
What size amp are you using the power the speakers  8W or 15W?

Do you have any issues with the screen sizing in the monitor, gaps or black bars on the sides or top.  Alot of the games in Coinops need to be resized in order to fit the screen properly.   

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 02:39:29 pm »
What size amp are you using the power the speakers  8W or 15W?

Do you have any issues with the screen sizing in the monitor, gaps or black bars on the sides or top.  Alot of the games in Coinops need to be resized in order to fit the screen properly.   
2x90W amp,  might use a pre-amp too.

No significant issue for me with resizing in CoinPs.  I can't say that I have come across it much - for the games that I play anyway.  I have heard others raise this issue before though.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 08:22:49 pm »
Any experience with the Sure Electronics amplifier boards from China.

It seems the larger amps call for a higher voltage input.  14v plus.  A 2 X 15 uses 12 v which could be pulled from the Xbox power supply.  Are you using seperate power supply for the amp or drawing from the xbox?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 09:57:49 pm »
Subscribed awaiting eagerly for your controller updates :D
and shot you a pm :) :applaud:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 10:58:06 pm »
What size amp are you using the power the speakers  8W or 15W?

Do you have any issues with the screen sizing in the monitor, gaps or black bars on the sides or top.  Alot of the games in Coinops need to be resized in order to fit the screen properly.   

You can do a screen change in Coinops which will change the whole screen including games  ;D

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 05:53:26 am »
Any experience with the Sure Electronics amplifier boards from China.

It seems the larger amps call for a higher voltage input.  14v plus.  A 2 X 15 uses 12 v which could be pulled from the Xbox power supply.  Are you using seperate power supply for the amp or drawing from the xbox?

Sure Electronics
I draw the 12V from the xbox power supply to power the amp.  I have had issues in the past with buzzing (caused by ground loop) when connecting up multiple devices but this is usually not an issue.  There are ways to work around the buzzing by using resistors or caps.

My amp is 9V to 14.4V 2A input.

Thanks for the link to the amp board.  This looks super cool.  I will have to get myself one of these.


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 08:57:59 am »
Your welcome glad I could help, only thing is the 25w amps and up for this series require a minimum of 14w for power. 

I'm not an electrcian, but i think you can twist the xbox 12v and 5v wires together to get what you need. :dunno Any comments on this?

I know Radio shack here in the states sell whats called a ground loop isolator it goes from your source to the amp, here is a link to show you what i'm talking about.  Ground Loop Isolator 

I have 600w amp in my machine powering 2 10" subs and 6 focal mids and tweets, and this thing got rid of the hum totally.  Another suggestion would be to put your amp on it's own power supply, the noise is probably coming from the xbox (fan, drive, etc.)

I would try the cord first USD 6.00 per the link

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 12:56:38 pm »
 :dunno
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 01:00:20 pm »
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I'm not an electrcian, but i think you can twist the xbox 12v and 5v wires together to get what you need. :dunno Any comments on this?
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Totally wrong on this one....+12v twisted with a +5v gives you 7v.

Do you know if the xbox power supply has any -12v or -5v leads?
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 01:54:47 pm »
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I'm not an electrcian, but i think you can twist the xbox 12v and 5v wires together to get what you need. :dunno Any comments on this?
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Totally wrong on this one....+12v twisted with a +5v gives you 7v.

Do you know if the xbox power supply has any -12v or -5v leads?

I'm not sure.  I was thinking you would still have 12V.  I think if you swap ground for 5v and have 12v live then this would give 7V.  I remember people doing this to adjust fan speeds on PC's.
Never tried it myself.  I think it could damage some circuits not designed for this.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 03:27:17 pm »
Well if you take -12v and +5V you get 17v, that's why i was wondering it the xbox PS has those leads, it may be that they are found only in Computer power supply's, which may be another option in itself.

I'm curious to see how the higher wattage amps (25+) perform on 12v.......on some of the specs the output wattage was 0 at 12v.

Also, whats' the wattage on your speakers, you mentioned a 90w amp earlier, a speaker pushing 45w or 100w per channel?  100w is pretty loud for a machine this size.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 04:27:53 pm »
I like the neatness of hooking up to 12V xbox power,  that's all.  From xbox,  I have previously drawn power for LEDS, 12v strip light, 12V Amp and a 5V VGA converter box.  Nice and clean.  No nasty extension cables.
My amp has input 9V - 14.4V.  Speakers i plan to use are 2x20Watt, but I also have 2x100Watt.  I will try them out.  I am no expert on amps/speakers. 


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 08:05:59 pm »
Understood, I will have to find an amp to stay w/i that range then.....Nice to know how much the xbox power supply can handle.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2012, 05:34:38 am »
Hi,

I have been following your progress with interest and using your build videos as a reference for my beginner Weecade project.
I was wondering if you had experienced what I described here, ie regarding the aspect ratio of the plans?

Do you have that Bubble Bobble CPO available somewhere?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2012, 08:54:57 am »
Hi,  great that you're following my build.  Please keep us updated on how you get on!

I adapted koenigs plans for my build.  My dimensions are a little easier to read.  I adjusted some of the baton offsets to account for an MDF control panel.  Some other little tweaks here and there.
You can download my updated plans from http://www.mediafire.com/?v1l9jn53qtyn4tq
I had no issues followig Koenigs plans.

For Bubble Bobble,  I have print ready artwork, 200dpi,  available for download from http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?8jza23ucu4mtqf5
I also attached a low quality preview pic
The marquee was adapted from the regular Bubble Bobble marquee and I changed to dark background.
The control panel is my own design with the standard monster card added.

Good luck with your build.

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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2012, 12:31:50 pm »
Thanks, I guess since I stuck my neck out I will be forced to make a project announcement (even though I have nothing new to offer and am blatantly copying from the masters on this forum  :notworthy: )
I had found your plans, but when I cut the wood I only had the originals to go by. But comparing the two the side panel templates look very similar.

If I print them out and measure the side panel templates, I get a height/depth(baseplate) ratio of 1,46-1,48 the printed measurements however (540/386) give a ratio of approx 1,4.
Resulting in my side panels being around 560mm high instead of 540mm (not that that is necessarily a bad thing, just that my back panel does not fit).

I am using your plans for a MDF CP, have yet to get there though  ;)
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2012, 12:52:40 pm »
Just to confirm, I am using 19" monitors for my builds.

The height should remain the same, but the width of your plans need to change, correct.

Widen roughly 50mm total?

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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2012, 01:29:17 pm »
Just to confirm, I am using 19" monitors for my builds.

The height should remain the same, but the width of your plans need to change, correct.

Widen roughly 50mm total?

For 19" you would need to increase width.  If it is 4:3 ratio then the width increase would not be a lot,  50mm would be good for 4:3.  Can you let me know width and height of your monitor?
You can generally get away with an increased height.  If it is tight then you coul reduce the length of the top control panel piece - to allow monitor to come further forward.

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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2012, 03:41:01 pm »

Just to confirm, I am using 19" monitors for my builds.

The height should remain the same, but the width of your plans need to change, correct.

Widen roughly 50mm total?

For 19" you would need to increase width.  If it is 4:3 ratio then the width increase would not be a lot,  50mm would be good for 4:3.  Can you let me know width and height of your monitor?
You can generally get away with an increased height.  If it is tight then you coul reduce the length of the top control panel piece - to allow monitor to come further forward.


4:3 ratio

412.75 mm x 339.725mm

or

16 1/4" X 13 3/8"

I hope my math is correct, but I measure in inches.



Also, I know your doing this the cheapest way possible.  So this method may shave off another USD 20.00 off your builds.  I've tested and confirm it works.

The cheapest route, which im going to follow and I'll update if it works.  Buy the following

VGA to RCA Cable $1.90
RCA Coupler $.68
Xbox Component Cable 3.99

Locate a compatible Sync on Green Monitor (craigslist), which shouldn't be difficult, folks are giving away Dell 19" monitors with SOG these days. I've located a few for a about $30.00.

Finally Upgrade Softmod with Frosty's Dual-Boot VGA Softmod v1.0

I'll post again if it works....Hopefully.


My parts came in and I've tested this setup and it works perfect. You have to tweak the monitor screen via the monitor menu, and the xbox menus to get it to fullscreen.  Looks really good....Super Happy Now... :applaud:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2012, 08:21:13 pm »
Hey rablack97

At 412mm wide this would fit without any adjustment,  but it might give you a narrow bezel.  25mm(1") to 50mm(2") increase is the right way to go IMO.

Cheap is good - if it does the job.

Nice one! It is good to know that your VGA mod worked.  I was thinking about doing something similar after discussing with a guy on CoinOps forums,  he is builiding in scan line generator too. 
This is interesting stuff.  thanks.


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2012, 02:43:07 pm »
FYI,

If your familiar with Frosty's dual boot VGA mod for the monitors, you have to hit the eject button for VGA mode.  I did some asking around and found a way to switch the buttons, so that the actual small power button triggers the VGA mode. woohoo

Also, it seems with this mode on a few of my monitors there is a 10-12sec delay before the screen fires up.  This is cool, cause the flubber piece is hidden, and the only thing you see is a split second of the xbox logo fading out and the dashboard fading in.  It looks kinda cool, would be nice to get the sound taken out.

I know you were talking about some kind of delay on the monitor.  I'm not electrician but any idea on how to delay power to the monitor and the small amp?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2012, 12:00:21 pm »
I recently recorded part 7 of the build so this will be out real soon.  I mounted the xbox motherboard, PSU, HDD, power and other bits.  See attached photo.



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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2012, 02:58:54 pm »
Where is your controller hack?
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2012, 03:04:45 pm »
Where is your controller hack?
I built my own encoder so don't need a hack.  More info in the coming videos.

I might also show the gamepad hack method.

 

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2012, 03:15:11 pm »
Stumbled upon these goodies.

Maybe they can help you i dunno..


This is for the amp...
12v Time Delay Relay

The amps from overseas tend not to come with the plug so I found these, I have no idea if they will fit the amps, but it was worth a shot as they are cheap.

Amp DC connectors


Where is your controller hack?

I've always pointed people hear XBOX controller Hack, click on the load 10 more videos and the rest of the tutorials will show up.  If you can't wait.

Or you could always hit up HARUMAN and have him hack your controllers for you.


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2012, 03:17:05 pm »
Where is your controller hack?
I built my own encoder so don't need a hack.  More info in the coming videos.

I might also show the gamepad hack method.

 

Wow, so did you work out the bugs and kinks for the xbox encoder, if so, put me down for 4 of them :applaud:

Also, I have a question, If the computer monitor totally loses power, and the power button needs to be hit to turn it back on, did you have a plan on how to get it back on w/o totally opeing up the machine?
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2012, 01:22:55 pm »
One of the reasons why you should hinge your bezel.  It stops you getting unhinged when that happens.  ;D
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2012, 02:39:49 pm »
Where is your controller hack?
I built my own encoder so don't need a hack.  More info in the coming videos.

I might also show the gamepad hack method.

 

Wow, so did you work out the bugs and kinks for the xbox encoder, if so, put me down for 4 of them :applaud:

Also, I have a question, If the computer monitor totally loses power, and the power button needs to be hit to turn it back on, did you have a plan on how to get it back on w/o totally opeing up the machine?


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2012, 02:46:34 pm »
Where is your controller hack?
I built my own encoder so don't need a hack.  More info in the coming videos.

I might also show the gamepad hack method.

 

Wow, so did you work out the bugs and kinks for the xbox encoder, if so, put me down for 4 of them :applaud:

Also, I have a question, If the computer monitor totally loses power, and the power button needs to be hit to turn it back on, did you have a plan on how to get it back on w/o totally opeing up the machine?

Yep,  xbox encoder is working now,  I would like to make a few improvements though.  If you like what you see in my demo video then i am happy to send you 4!

For the monitor,  there are a few things,  on some of the Dell ones,  the button is slight pronounced,  so you can push the screen and that switches on/off.  It works better if you have a pads (double sided sticky pads) between monitor and bezel.  Bezel should not be directly touching the monitor. 
On some monitors,  after a switch off at the wall plug,  they do not come back on.  My solution is to jam the monitor button down so the switch is alway on.  This can be done physically,  my screwing it down,  or by soldering it to be a permanently closed switch.  These methods have worked fine for all monitors I have used so far.







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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2012, 05:33:14 pm »
wow lots of progress all looking good :)
whens part 7 out and does that show the xbox encoder control method :)
if these work like ide like them to then ill take 2 aswell there looking great as mame controllers :)
but definately better as xbox controllers :D
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2012, 06:24:22 pm »
Part 7 should be out in a few hours.  Just editing it now.  It will not have the encoder in this part.  Part 7 will cover mounting the xbox parts in the cabinet.

I will include the controller stuff in part 8.  Hopefully you guys wont be waiting too long for that.  Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2012, 08:02:58 pm »
Part 7 video is out...



In this video we fit the xbox motherboard, psu, hdd and other xbox parts into the cabinet. These parts were removed from the xbox in my part 1 video.

This is a fairly straightforward one.

In my next video ( part 8 ) I will fit connect the control panel to the xbox. This feature has been requested a lot!
I will also connect up an arcade button to control the xbox power - by soldering a wire to the on/off board.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2012, 05:22:59 am »
Nice work, man!  :cheers:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2012, 11:28:28 pm »
WoW again awsome video :) have subscribed and will use for future reference :)  :notworthy: :cheers:
Keep up the great work :D

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2012, 08:40:14 am »
Ok, I've noticed that when the xobx powers down it leaves the monitor in the screensaver mode, where the RBG square thingy floats all over the screen.  It never goes away.  DO you think there needs to be a main power switch added to the cab, so you can shut off the monitor?

I guess this is for those folks who don't have a 12v Monitor such as yourself, my monitors dont use a brick and take straight 110v from the plug.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2012, 03:23:39 pm »

You could always fit a 12v powered relay/coil, when the xbox powers on it activates the relay which allows power to the monitor.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2012, 03:51:34 pm »

You could always fit a 12v powered relay/coil, when the xbox powers on it activates the relay which allows power to the monitor.

Yep.  I got a 5V relay in the post today.  I ordered from ebay.  It is 2 way so can handle 2 different voltages e.g. 12v and 110v.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261032683953?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Cheap eh!

My plan is to hook this up to one of my minimus AVR which runs of 5V power.   It will wait 12 seconds (to avoid flubber) and then output 5V power to one of the pins.  The pin will be connected to this relay and will turn on power to monitor and other peripherals.
I got the minimus to output sound to a connected 8ohm speaker (or piezo buzzer) during that first 12 seconds.  I got it playing Axel F tune.  It sounds loud enough without amplification but I might connect to the amp in the cab anyhow.

When I have this working I will put up some instructions.
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2012, 05:40:31 pm »

You could always fit a 12v powered relay/coil, when the xbox powers on it activates the relay which allows power to the monitor.

What the heck is that, can you give me a link?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2012, 05:54:22 pm »

You could always fit a 12v powered relay/coil, when the xbox powers on it activates the relay which allows power to the monitor.

Will this work on 110 volt, i'm not very good at electrical....

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2012, 06:56:17 pm »

You could always fit a 12v powered relay/coil, when the xbox powers on it activates the relay which allows power to the monitor.

What the heck is that, can you give me a link?

A relay works like a light switch, but instead of you moving the switch lever, a magnetic field moves the lever.

He's talking about using the Double Pole Single Throw (DPST) relay shown here.



The top of the coil (spring-looking part on left) is connected to the 12v wire from the X-Box and the bottom is connected to ground. 
Connect 5v to A1 and 110v hot (black wire) to A2. (Or whatever voltages you want switched.)
Connect B1 to the circuit you want to power with 5v.
Connect B2 to the circuit you want to power with 110v.

When the X-Box powers up, the 12v passing through the coil generates a magnetic field that closes the switches. (Picture a magnet pulling on the dotted line.) A1 connects to B1, powering the desired 5v circuits. A2 connects to B2, powering the desired 110v circuits.

As long as the X-Box provides 12v, the relay keeps the switches on.

When you shut off the X-Box, 12v isn't produced any more, and the switches return to the open position, shutting off the 5v and 110v circuits.


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2012, 08:14:22 pm »
Think you can point me to a part.....

Also, so mine in the link won't work with 110v?


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2012, 09:30:06 pm »
Think you can point me to a part.....

Also, so mine in the link won't work with 110v?



By "work with 110v" do you mean the coil, or the A1/B1, A2/B2 contacts?

The relay contacts (A1/B1, A2/B2 ) on your link are rated for up to 250VAC.

The coil on your link is a 12V DC coil. (That one is not designed for 110V AC, but there are some that are.  Try searching for 110vac relay.)

Here's one that will work with 110VAC for the coil--if you don't need the 0-30 second delay.
(Disclaimer: I have not used this model, just going by the data on e-Bay.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JQX-13F-2Z-110VAC-Coil-Contact-Relay-/290648067614



In this image from e-Bay, the contacts (right quarter of the image) relate to DPDT below as follows:

1 - B1 - Normally closed contact (Not used)
2 - B2 - Normally closed contact (Not used)
3 - A1 - Voltage 1 output
4 - A2 - Voltage 2 output
5 - C1 - Voltage 1 input
6 - C2 - Voltage 2 input
7 - Bottom of the coil - AC white wire.
8 - Top of the coil - AC black wire




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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2012, 10:14:36 am »
Question?

What if i take this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261032683953?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

And couple it with http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-H3Y-2-Delay-Timer-Time-Relay-0-10-Second-12VDC-Base-/290688252449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ae5eba21

connect 5v to the delay timer after 10seconds send 5v to relay, relay to complete circuits for 110v monitor and 12v amp?

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2012, 03:25:20 pm »
Thanks to PL1, I can now power on the xbox with a 10 sec delay to the monitor and the amp.

I adjusted the delay to around 7-8 secs, after power on so the flubber animation and the xbox intro sound are not seen or heard.

I will have the marquee power up once the button is pressed and then delay to the amp and monitor with a boot straight into CoinOPs

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2012, 11:11:21 pm »
That poor 'ol xbox logo. what did it ever do to you?

Seriously though, amazing build and documentation going on here.  :applaud:

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2012, 02:55:42 pm »
Here's part 8 of the guide...

In this video, I connect up the arcade controls using that hacked smartjoy thing from my other thread.

I wire up a balltop joystick, 8 arcade buttons on the top of the controls panel (A, B, X, Y, Left Trigger, Right Trigger, Start and Back) and 2 buttons on the front of the panel (Back and Start). I also wire up an arcade button for use as an xbox on/off switch.

For testing, I have been using the xbox controller test tool.

I also move the xbox fan to the back of the cabinet, ready for mounting in the rear panel. I have some bigger 5V and 12V fans which I might swap out later.

Here's the video...


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2012, 04:23:43 pm »
Sweet....need to get back to building mine got side tracked with the stinking encoder....LOL

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2012, 12:45:51 am »
Found these 4" iron speaker covers, 1.50 a piece, I ordered 10 for 1.25 a piece.

These look really good, alternate option to the drilling.  International shipping.

http://www.8linesupply.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=iron-speaker-cover&Store_Code=8line

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2012, 06:18:44 pm »
Found these 4" iron speaker covers, 1.50 a piece, I ordered 10 for 1.25 a piece.

These look really good, alternate option to the drilling.  International shipping.

http://www.8linesupply.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=iron-speaker-cover&Store_Code=8line
Cool.  I think I will put together a reference page for parts on my site.  This is useful info.  Cheers.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2012, 08:38:54 am »
I made up a CAD template for the cabinet design and had all the panels professionally cut on a CNC machine.
The machine drills all the holes for the speakers, monitor mount (VESA 100) and vent holes too.  I even got the CNC machine to route the edges of the side panels.

This lot arrived in the post today.



I think it is looking pretty sweet.

I plan to sell these in a reasonably priced arcade kit so that it is easier for people to start out on a project.
The kits would have other options including...
 * acrylic cut to size(for bezel and marquee)
 * artwork (for CP and marquee) printed on self-adhesive laminated vinyl
 * encoder and wiring harness (?possibly)

I would be interested in feedback on this.  What would you be prepared to pay for a basic kit?
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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2012, 11:57:03 pm »
First off I wanted to thank you for the great tutorial!  I have been running CoinOps on my Xbox for a few months now and recently installed Vision. I decided it was time to wrap it all up into one nice package and that is when I found your guide on building an xbox based Bartop. I noticed you have a few more videos on your youtube channel that are not posted here, but I didn't see anything in regards to installing the monitor bezel.  Where would it mount to exactly so that it doesn't touch the monitor?  Any tricks or suggestions?  I see you have been quite busy with the KADE kickstarter project, which I am also very excited about. 

Thanks again!

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2012, 12:02:06 am »
There is no monitor bezel on his builds.  I followed the same build and just painted the the outer edges of the plexi black.  The plexi just lays on top of the the monitor.  It should sit a bit below the CP top rear, when you install the cp it helps to keep the plexi snug and in place.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2012, 11:23:53 am »
Thanks rablack97.. the plexi is what I was referring to.. I am still new to all of this :)  I was going to mask off and paint the outer edges of the plexi as you suggested, I just wasn't sure how it sat in place.  From what you are saying though, it sounds like it stays in place by wedging up against the CP and the speaker bar mount area.  I wasn't sure if there were any slot's or other pieces that needed to help keep it in place.

I went out and bought the woood last night and was going to spend some time this weekend mocking up the cab in cardboard. I have planned on increasing the width to be about 19" to more comfortably fit 2 player 6 or 8 button controls.  I just need to figure out the CP artwork stuff now.. I am absolutely rubbish at any sort of graphic design.  :P


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2012, 12:10:56 pm »
Yep your correct...that's how mine stays put, looks good and simple.....

If your near a lowes or home depot...go to the area where you can rebuild screen windows...you will see this black stripping that looks like a miniature marquee holder.

I tacked that to the top of the CP so it made a lip that slip over the plexi and filled in that gap between the CP and the Plexi....

If i find photos i'll post....

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2013, 03:16:21 pm »
Part 10 is finally out!!

Apologies for the delay in getting this video out. It's been a long while since the last update and this video was actually recorded at the end of September.  For those who have been waiting, thanks for your patience.  I've had a shave since then.

In this part,  I fit the back panel,  which is actually quite easy,  it is drilled with holes for the air vents and has a cut out for the Xbox fan.  You can download a template for my back panel from https://sites.google.com/site/degenatrons/home/arcade-kits/back_panel.pdf
Rather than mount the amp on the outside of the cabinet,  I opted for a simple access door,  fitted with recessed hinges.  This also provides a convenient place to hold the cabinet when picking up and moving around.

I mount the fan backwards so that air is pulled into the cabinet rather than blown out of it.  I think it cools better this way, but you can mount it whichever way you like.

Refer to part 3 of the series to get the plans and dimensions for the back panel and the acrylic sheet. 

Music is courtesy of http://danosongs.com - with a cameo from me in the middle  :P



Also,  I just realised that I never posted part 9 to this thread.  So here's part 9 too.  Be sure to watch 9 first!


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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2013, 10:11:57 pm »
To bump an old thread ....................

This is a great thread and great tutorial videos.
Really great work and I thank you for taking the time to share.
I've purchased my KADE units and think an XBOX powered bartop is my next project.

Thank you and keep up the awesome work.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2013, 11:38:56 am »
To bump an old thread ....................

This is a great thread and great tutorial videos.
Really great work and I thank you for taking the time to share.
I've purchased my KADE units and think an XBOX powered bartop is my next project.

Thank you and keep up the awesome work.

 :cheers: and good luck with the xbox project Mike.

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Re: Building an Xbox powered arcade cabinet from scratch
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2013, 12:03:11 pm »
Thank you