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| Well Fed Games:
--- Quote from: shmokes on February 16, 2012, 08:05:52 pm --- Perhaps taking the overabundance of powers to the extreme will help illustrate where my bordom is coming from. Imagine if someone wrote a comic book about god. I mean the literal Christian god. And god just sits in his armchair and when some lady is getting mugged in an alleyway, god makes her suddenly not getting mugged simply by thinking about it. And let's say a volcano erupts and the lava is about to destroy a village. So god, without even standing up just makes the lava not hit the village, just by willing it. Does that sound like a fun comic book? Does that sound like an engaging plot? --- End quote --- --- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 11:16:03 am --- What makes them true heros, what makes them admired and interesting is nOt just that they save lives . . . . . . it's that they risk their own lives to protect others. --- End quote --- That's a pretty good argument for Jesus Christ. ;) Sorry, you went with religion first, couldn't resist... :cheers: no offense intended. |
| Rando:
--- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 11:16:03 am ---Do you think the guy behind the desk operating the unmanned drone gets the same respect as the guy on the front line risking his life every day? --- End quote --- To the guy on the ground at the front line getting intel about where the enemy is and when to keep his head down, yeah, that drone driver is a hero. So is the guy flying the chopper coming to pull him and his injured buddies out of harms way before it's too late. --- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 11:16:03 am ---And which of them has a story worth telling. Which has a story that'll put you on the edge of your seat. Superman is a hero by definition. But as a literary character, he sucks. --- End quote --- I'm not arguing who has a better story, or who is a "better" hero, just that Superman is, regardless of definition in my opinion, a Hero. Yes he's a Boy Scout who can be boring, but Boy Scouts do plenty of good deeds, even when they don't have to and are "off duty". |
| Le Chuck:
--- Quote from: Rando on February 17, 2012, 01:01:42 pm --- --- Quote from: shmokes on February 17, 2012, 11:16:03 am ---Do you think the guy behind the desk operating the unmanned drone gets the same respect as the guy on the front line risking his life every day? --- End quote --- To the guy on the ground at the front line getting intel about where the enemy is and when to keep his head down, yeah, that drone driver is a hero. So is the guy flying the chopper coming to pull him and his injured buddies out of harms way before it's too late. --- End quote --- ---fudgesicle--- yeah. :cheers: |
| shmokes:
But . . . Jesus . . . Superman is a STORY. He's not real. His only value is in how interesting he is. He doesn't literally save lives. He saves fictional lives in stories that are supposed to be entertaining. So maybe you're not arguing "who has a better story", but if not you're wasting your breath because that's all there is to argue about. because that's all superman and any other comic book is. A story. Anyway, even to play your game, you're being dishonest if you claim to give no extra credit to the person willing to risk his own life to save others, versus the person who does it in perfect safety. To pretend that risking one's life for others has no independent value on top of the fact of saving lives is not only silly, but it's a lie, since I know that you don't actually feel that way. It's just something to say for the sake of argument. |
| Le Chuck:
I took the quote to be that the UAV operator can be a hero to the ground pounder which is true. I don't think there is much value in weighing the two against eachother. Most door kickers when asked who the bigger hero was would probably invite you to do something pleasant to yourself. As for day to day respect I've found that the infantry man gets less than he deserves. At least when a UAV operator tells a civilian what he does there is a respect for the technical aspect of his mission. There is a huge unfortunate stigma towards grunts. That is off topic however. For on topic I am totally bummed that Ed Norton didn't sign on or wasn't invited to Hulk out in the coming film, especially when Stark made a cameo at the end teaser of the most recent hulk film tieing the two casts together. I'd even take Bana again, that would have been a humerous bit of casting but I still want to see how the hulk is handled in this treatment. |
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