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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #120 on: March 28, 2012, 11:06:42 pm »
wow thanks for taking the time and shooting that and you are the first and only to recieve this art.

First I only oversized the background cabinet art 1" from the orginal file.
So I can see those dimensions not being correct from the start.
So from that heres what we have.

as you can see the lines hit about where they should.
So suspect problem #1 is the cab shape/dimensions of the orginal art file since I used that to place in johnny/dragon
and the scan for the logos (midway text/MK circle)
not sure how this entire piece of art was scanned, pieces/stitched or a full bedded scan
but suspected from the beginning it wasnt quite right based on the logo not being a true circle.

That being said this is where it gets alittle strange. where as it appears too big in obvious places, reducing the size
dosnt help move the dragon tail up where it needs to hit based on how you used the monitor holes as placements.

But lets start at the beginning and verifying the cab dimensions.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #121 on: March 28, 2012, 11:16:11 pm »
Ya not to mention right where johnny's hair hits the edge of the cab it looks spot on. I think it's the original scans as well. But while you guys are figuring all that out tomorrow I will try and compare measurements with my cab as well as the original file. My father said don't assume and make an ass out of yourself. Well I assumed the measurements were verified before the thread was already made. I'll let you guys know what I come up with though to try and pinpoint what's wrong.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #122 on: March 29, 2012, 12:26:26 am »
These are accurate measurements that I just took from my dedicated MK1. Anyone else please feel free to verify my measurements (in fact it would be recommended), but I double checked and they are all accurate. Let's see how this affects the art.


A = 35.5"

B = 28 5/16"

C = 15.5"

D = 22 5/8"

E = 69"

F = 30"

G = 6 15/16"

H = 72 11/16"



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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #123 on: March 29, 2012, 12:30:33 am »
I will verify tomorrow if no one does it first. good night

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #124 on: March 29, 2012, 11:10:42 am »
ok so if those are the cab measurements Ive found problem #1
Id like to confirm and get one more. from the bottom of the cab up to the center of the curve.
Its currently at 59 5/8"

So shown here in BLUE is the original scan cab shape
The RED is the 1" bleed tht was added.
The Yellow is the new cab dimensions posted.

It dosnt look like much on the small Jpg but some of those areas were more than an 1" off!  :o

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #125 on: March 29, 2012, 11:16:29 am »
So to confirm this I took the new cab shape and applied it to the art as it is
and no suprize pretty much got the same results MK3FAN did on his install.
from the tip of the Midway logo on the left to cutoff on the dragon tail.
Blue Line original cab scan shape Green line is corrected new cab dimensions


I think this is going to be an easy fix and liked how you used the monitor holes as placements guides.
So Id like to get the placements for those.
bottom of cab up and over from the cabinet back.

from that everything should fall into place when I resize Johnny and the dragon.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #126 on: March 29, 2012, 11:26:06 am »
Also from his video I would say the spacing of the letters in "Midway" is incorrect. Because of the simple fact that the Y lines up but is just too low but the M is off to the left and too low. I'm trying to figure out where a package is right now because it says out for delivery and it's not with the rest of my mail.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #127 on: March 29, 2012, 12:29:23 pm »
yeah exactly!
from the video the Y in Midway is inline but about 1/2" too low
the M is also 1/2" too low but to far to the  left.
the entire scan is out of porportion, and always has been.
I remeber the circle being something like 7 1/8 x 7 1/2" or more IIRC This was before it was seprted and reconstructed.
So basically the same 1/2" differnence your seeing in most of these problem areas

"Squeezing" the art back from the left will/should correct that.

Then its a matter of figuring out the height so the Johnny dosnt move too much due to bolt hole placement
but the tail comes up enough to not get cut off.
The Scans were proably fudged together to make it work and then once completed forced into and or resmaple along the way.
changing the dimensions alittle everytime it was worked on.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #128 on: March 29, 2012, 01:21:30 pm »
Yup totally agree! I'm going to start checking these measurements now. I think I'm also going to try and see what the spacing is on the midway while I'm at it to help with the spacing problem and see how far from the back of the cabinet the M is as well as measure how long the dragon is sup to be from top to bottom. Any other measurements while I'm at it?

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #129 on: March 29, 2012, 02:06:12 pm »
Id like to know from the bottom of the cab up to the cenetr of the curve as I posted above
Moniotr bolt holes from bottom up and from back of cab
should about do it

other points of interst
Like you mentioned from back of cab to M
any edge to graphic point would also help like bottom of cab to dragon toenail,
back of cab to dragon leg, cab edge to Johnny foot, etc.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #130 on: March 29, 2012, 02:56:54 pm »
A:35.5"
B:28 9/32" I may be 1/16" off
C:15.5"
D:22 5/8"
E:69"
F:30"
G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted
H:72 11/16"

I'll edit this post with the rest of the measurements after I'm done eating. Keep an eye out.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #131 on: March 29, 2012, 03:08:56 pm »
The Scans were proably fudged together to make it work and then once completed forced into and or resmaple along the way.
changing the dimensions alittle everytime it was worked on.


Wow, you pretty much nailed what I had to do to get the scans I received fixed enough to worked on. I can confirm I had to warp the image a bit due to the edges not matching up and I used samples of other areas of the art to help make the image seamless. also if none have noticed some areas were recreated in PS here are pics of the stitched up art just to show some of the warping I had to do.


mk-scan-problems-forum by necroticart, on Flickr



mk-scan-problems-forum2 by necroticart, on Flickr



mk-scan-problems-forum3 by necroticart, on Flickr


mk-scan-problems-forum4 by necroticart, on Flickr

also I keep all the PSB files if they are needed
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #132 on: March 29, 2012, 03:31:30 pm »
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #133 on: March 29, 2012, 03:58:50 pm »
Wow. You guys have been busy today. Looks like it's all in good hands. Confident we'll get this resolved and it'll work out better for other people who have been waiting on this. I'm happy with how it turned out on my cab despite the image being off. Plus that side of the cab faces the wall, so not a really big deal.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #134 on: March 29, 2012, 04:01:57 pm »

G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted


I removed the CP and measured the distance shown in the diagram. I got 6 15/16". That's the distance of the line on my cab.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #135 on: March 29, 2012, 04:04:13 pm »
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #136 on: March 29, 2012, 04:06:29 pm »
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke


No not you Rikitiki, Necroticart. He seen the thread and posted a couple times but never mentioned he did any of that squeezing or anything. Pretty funny. From what Necroticart is saying this is the artwork he worked on before it was even passed to us. He's the one who stitched it together and failed to mention any of those important details.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #137 on: March 29, 2012, 04:09:38 pm »
gotcha.
well scanning and stitching this was no easy task
but no worries its fixable.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #138 on: March 29, 2012, 04:17:05 pm »


And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke



Thanks Rich. I won't be able to install it or review it until the first week in July as I am off to Afghanistan again a week from tomorrow and I won't be home again until the first week in July.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2012, 04:32:04 pm »
If you knew it was going to be wrong why didn't you say anything before someone ended up applying it? Did you check the measurements after you were done at all?

I didnt know it was going to be wrong. Just dosnt suprize me.
Asuming that the cab/scan was correct was the real mistake.
Since Johhny was put back into it after the BG was recreated.
His size didnt change but because the cab shape was never correct there was really know way to know
untill someone applied it.

And my offer will ALWAYS stand when all is fixed a new side will be sent to MIke


No not you Rikitiki, Necroticart. He seen the thread and posted a couple times but never mentioned he did any of that squeezing or anything. Pretty funny. From what Necroticart is saying this is the artwork he worked on before it was even passed to us. He's the one who stitched it together and failed to mention any of those important details.

I figured when you guys were pasting cage in the artwork you made the cab the correct size and shrunk and re sized cage to fit sorry i did not volunteer the info earlier I had no way to know if it would fit correctly. If you guys have any questions please feel free to ask
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2012, 04:51:06 pm »
yeah its all good
Necro sent me scans and info as well during this and the differences are minumal.

ideally its best to start with the true cab shape pre drawn either in vector or photoshop
or have the canvas set to the height and width So when stitching something like this togther
your "puzzle pieces" have to fit within those parameters and will keep things alittle truer to size.
Because "fudging" of the art  is nessasary in most cases.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #141 on: March 30, 2012, 11:43:31 am »

G:7 7/8" I checked and double checked. I measure from where the bend starts coming out of the CP and starts going up the cab. Maybe Mike accidentally measured from the notch that isn't exposed when the CP is on. From what I see I did the part I think you wanted


I removed the CP and measured the distance shown in the diagram. I got 6 15/16". That's the distance of the line on my cab.
Hmm Mine is a whole inch off then.. ??? Not sure what to think of that.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #142 on: March 30, 2012, 12:10:57 pm »
Yeah thats strange. So descripincy on G and also need J recently added
I tried forcing this into the new corrected cab dimensions and got it closer but...
Johnny needs a hair cut :laugh2:

Which could be from these 2 meaurements since they both effect that angle.

Checking this further would be to list the following. Now this would mean ALL the art would hit the cabinet shape as original
but the bolt hole may or may not becuase of how the art was put togther. but I can confirm where they will hit the art
if someone can provide the hole placments.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #143 on: March 30, 2012, 12:23:57 pm »
Give me a minute and I'll get the rest of the measurements you asked for. Something is definitely wrong with part of the hair and dragon getting cut off as well as the dragon at the top would be a little further away from the marquee.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #144 on: March 30, 2012, 04:59:35 pm »
Give me a minute and I'll get the rest of the measurements you asked for. Something is definitely wrong with part of the hair and dragon getting cut off as well as the dragon at the top would be a little further away from the marquee.


I can doublecheck later if you want, but I think here is where we are differing on out "G" measurements...





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« Reply #145 on: March 31, 2012, 01:14:17 pm »
Ok that makes sense looking back it dosnt look like that was in the scan\maybe just cutoff or hidden
from the stichin maybe.
proably just need to split that diffentce since it just comes to a point anyway and disnt effect it too much really
But measurement J would really help confirm that angle thats cuttin into Johnny hair
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« Reply #146 on: April 13, 2012, 12:07:10 pm »
Well I took what I had and got Johnny and the dragon to fit within the corrected cab dimension.
I cant guarantee the bolt holes will hit in the same place without further measurements.
But he definatly won't run off the edge.

the blue shown is what the over/bleed will still be.
the cab dimensions have been confirmed and Johnny/Dragon now fit within.


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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #147 on: April 15, 2012, 03:14:43 am »
Sah-Wheat! I'll be home in July and can't wait to get this new art put on. Thanks for all the time and effort you've put into it. Also many thanks goes to RejectedManiac for his time and effort as well.
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #148 on: April 23, 2012, 05:59:24 am »
Hi, will this art be available as a file for the community?

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« Reply #149 on: April 23, 2012, 07:27:34 pm »
all rpevious versions, the original scan and some of the cleanup stages are all ready avaiable.
The final version I compliled for actual printing will not.

This is mainly due to the fact that alot of us have put alot of time into this art and it would be unfortante the file ends up in the wrongs hands and exploited on places like ebay for cheap laminated knockoffs by someone who basically did nothing and profit from our love of labor :cheers:
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #150 on: April 24, 2012, 12:48:47 am »
I understand. I emailed you and got a reply from Kendra. I sent you a file, and hope you can make something out of it :)

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« Reply #151 on: May 26, 2012, 12:23:53 pm »
Just a quick update: Heres a shot I got back of the NEW REVISED art installed.
looks like a perfect fit. So I think Im calling this done.
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« Reply #152 on: May 26, 2012, 11:15:31 pm »
Looks sweet!  Great job guys!

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« Reply #153 on: May 28, 2012, 01:34:15 pm »
Great work guys!!!  :cheers:
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« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2012, 09:15:14 am »
Hello realy nice.

can we download both the files for the MK1?
is something availlable for a Killer Instinct 1 cabinet?

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« Reply #155 on: June 05, 2012, 09:17:57 am »
see here:
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all rpevious versions, the original scan and some of the cleanup stages are all ready avaiable.
The final version I compliled for actual printing will not.

This is mainly due to the fact that alot of us have put alot of time into this art and it would be unfortante the file ends up in the wrongs hands and exploited on places like ebay for cheap laminated knockoffs by someone who basically did nothing and profit from our love of labor

you can order this on his website http://www.thisoldgame.com/index.php?search%5Bterms%5D=kombat&search%5Bmode%5D=any
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #156 on: June 25, 2012, 07:58:49 pm »
Now this just looks freaking amazing! Well done everyone.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #157 on: September 07, 2012, 06:10:46 pm »
Just a quick update: Heres a shot I got back of the NEW REVISED art installed.
looks like a perfect fit. So I think Im calling this done.
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I've been trying to get a hold of you to see if you've verified the measurements I gave you and if you were still up for that free copy for doing some work on it?
Sent a PM with no reply.

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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #158 on: September 08, 2012, 03:58:17 pm »
sprry brandon hadnt been on for awhile checking PMs now
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Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Side Art
« Reply #159 on: October 26, 2012, 09:55:43 am »
Rich,

  I sent another PM saying that I haven't received the side art yet but I haven't gotten a reply from you. Not sure if your not getting my Pm's or what. I put a lot of time and hard work into that side art. I hope your still going to send me a copy as I already stripped the side art off of my cabinet for Mr. Johnny Cage.