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Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« on: January 03, 2012, 11:56:23 am »
Don't miss out.  Quite possibly the last Hurrah tour outing for Eddie, Alex and Dave, unless they go on Rolling Stones-style triple overtime. 

http://www.vhnd.com/2011/12/26/van-halen-tour-in-2012-tickets-on-sale-jan-10th/

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 01:14:29 pm »
Wow, that trailer was terrible.

I can't find the tour dates anywhere. The first few links I clicked through Google turned up nadda. I'd love to see them with Dave, considering 1984 was the last VH album I cared anything about.

Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 01:29:56 pm »
Wonder if there will be a UK tour?

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 01:35:55 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 02:02:21 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P
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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 02:08:39 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P

Pffft, please.  No one is near as overrated as U2.

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 02:10:03 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P

Pffft, please.  No one is near as overrated as U2.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 02:35:12 pm »
Time for a "<Your favorite indie band>/<Your favorite mainstream artist> sucks" pileon, I see.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 02:36:17 pm »
Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Amy Whinehouse...

I tell my kids that if I want to hear Lady Gaga I'll listen to Madonna.

Not sure about the VH Tour but I'll buy the CD.

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 02:37:03 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P

Pffft, please.  No one is near as overrated as U2.
Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Amy Whinehouse...

Whoa whoa WHOA. Michael Jackson is NOT overrated! Lady Gaga is Madonna, so that doesnt count. With you on Amy Whinehouse though...
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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 02:55:04 pm »
I can't find the tour dates anywhere.

I think dates are coming out this week. 

Wonder if there will be a UK tour?

Maybe if it goes over big in the US, but I don't think it will.  They would be billing it as a "world tour"  I hate to say it but they've already gone to the nostalgia tour paradigm, but I don't think it will be big on the scale of ACDC or Maiden/Somewhere in Time.  I'm not sure they have that cross generational appeal like some of those groups seem to maintain.  Dave will add mass appeal although I really liked and still like the Sammy era.   

Even if they promote the new album i'll be happy with the tour, it's 50/50 for me new material or hitz. 

Not sure about the VH Tour but I'll buy the CD.

Opposite here.  I'm gritting my teeth a little at the thought of the new record after VH III and Balance.  of course I'll buy it but time and extreme wealth/comfort/shoe licensing deals have not been kind to Eddie's keen writing and playing edge.  The tour now, face it, these guys can blow.  Dave's got 95% of the pipes he had, amazingly, and Eddie's got 95% of the chops.  He's really got a 100% of the chops, but i'm holding back 5% because his knees don't bend anymore.  Compare that to Robert Plant at 40% remaining pipes, although it's unfair because he's a good bit older. 

Gaga, Madonna et al are different artists who deserve a different discussion.  Somewhere else.   

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 02:57:32 pm »
I think I will be going to this concert if it comes here. I was a HUGE VH fan back in high school. I liked some Sammy. 5150 was a pretty good album I thought. I have always wanted to see them with Diamond Dave though. Cannot wait.

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 03:52:55 pm »
I've never seen them live, with or without Dave.  I will definitely go if they come to Pittsburgh.   I just bought my Joe Bonamassa tickets today!   I saw him last year, it was an incredible show!

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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 04:42:41 pm »
I saw them a few years ago when they ditched Michael Anthony and toured with Eddie's son Wolfgang.
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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 07:26:24 pm »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P

Pffft, please.  No one is near as overrated as U2.
Lady Gaga, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Amy Whinehouse...

Whoa whoa WHOA. Michael Jackson is NOT overrated! Lady Gaga is Madonna, so that doesnt count. With you on Amy Whinehouse though...

+1 on Mr. Jackson. 

Doh't misunderstand, he quickly degraded into insanity and obscurity BUT in the 80's he pretty much invented pop, the "dancing concert" and the music video.  And most of his earlier stuff was pretty awesome as well.  Of course the bad side to that is that he invented the "dancing concert" and pop music... meaning he's indirectly responsible for all the backstreet kids on the block boys and the britney christinia swifts. 

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 07:33:57 pm »

Whoa whoa WHOA. Michael Jackson is NOT overrated! Lady Gaga is Madonna, so that doesnt count. With you on Amy Whinehouse though...

+1 on Mr. Jackson. 

Doh't misunderstand, he quickly degraded into insanity and obscurity BUT in the 80's he pretty much invented pop, the "dancing concert" and the music video.  And most of his earlier stuff was pretty awesome as well.  Of course the bad side to that is that he invented the "dancing concert" and pop music... meaning he's indirectly responsible for all the backstreet kids on the block boys and the britney christinia swifts. 

The fact that he molested children makes all of this irrelevant IMO.

ON TOPIC - It will be interesting to see if the cash grab factor outweighs the fact that they couldn't get along. I would not be the least bit surprised to see this tour blow up at some point before it finishes or possibly even starts.

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 07:37:31 pm »
Opposite here.  I'm gritting my teeth a little at the thought of the new record after VH III and Balance.  of course I'll buy it but time and extreme wealth/comfort/shoe licensing deals have not been kind to Eddie's keen writing and playing edge.  The tour now, face it, these guys can blow.  Dave's got 95% of the pipes he had, amazingly, and Eddie's got 95% of the chops.  He's really got a 100% of the chops, but i'm holding back 5% because his knees don't bend anymore.  Compare that to Robert Plant at 40% remaining pipes, although it's unfair because he's a good bit older.   

I thought "Me Wise Magic" David Lee did with VH back in '96 was as good or better than almost any of the Van Hagar songs.  I'm a big Hagar fan and loved Chickenfoot so I'm not bashing Sammy.  There is just something special about Roth with Eddie and I'm real hopeful the CD is great.  I am a little concerned Michael Anthony's background vocals will be missed.  Dude could hit some high notes.

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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2012, 08:38:23 pm »
Opposite here.  I'm gritting my teeth a little at the thought of the new record after VH III and Balance.  of course I'll buy it but time and extreme wealth/comfort/shoe licensing deals have not been kind to Eddie's keen writing and playing edge.  The tour now, face it, these guys can blow.  Dave's got 95% of the pipes he had, amazingly, and Eddie's got 95% of the chops.  He's really got a 100% of the chops, but i'm holding back 5% because his knees don't bend anymore.  Compare that to Robert Plant at 40% remaining pipes, although it's unfair because he's a good bit older.   

I thought "Me Wise Magic" David Lee did with VH back in '96 was as good or better than almost any of the Van Hagar songs.  I'm a big Hagar fan and loved Chickenfoot so I'm not bashing Sammy.  There is just something special about Roth with Eddie and I'm real hopeful the CD is great.  I am a little concerned Michael Anthony's background vocals will be missed.  Dude could hit some high notes.


Me Wise Magic was a great song. Dave jumped the gun on that 'reunion', though. It took another 10 years for it to actually happen.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 12:09:26 am »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

This will be my third time (2009, 2010 previously). Probably going to be a similar setlist again, but I don't care. I love their live shows.

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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 12:18:16 am »
Oh well, I can only afford one show right now and just picked up tickets for Tool in Dallas on the 21st.

Nice.  I saw Tool back in 2002...  so awesome.

We touched on this before, but I had to put in my two cents again.... Tool is almost as overrated as U2.  :P

i see your 2 massively overrated bands and raise with Nirvana

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 08:53:48 am »
Still no dates - surprise! >:D

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 09:31:28 am »
Well, the rub with Van Halen is that Eddie's done nothing interesting for 25+ years.  Couldn't give half a damn about either singer.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I saw ZZ Top and Santana in 2011 but Billy Gibbons is still out there being nuts and Santana played for over two hours.  I passed on Joe Bonamassa, and that was probably a mistake, but I don't care for cover bands even if they're better than the original artist ever dreamed of being (and Joe's voice and original material stinks).

Also saw what remains of Styx in 2011, but that cost me $10.  That's about my Van Halen interest level.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 10:10:21 am »

Whoa whoa WHOA. Michael Jackson is NOT overrated! Lady Gaga is Madonna, so that doesnt count. With you on Amy Whinehouse though...

+1 on Mr. Jackson. 

Doh't misunderstand, he quickly degraded into insanity and obscurity BUT in the 80's he pretty much invented pop, the "dancing concert" and the music video.  And most of his earlier stuff was pretty awesome as well.  Of course the bad side to that is that he invented the "dancing concert" and pop music... meaning he's indirectly responsible for all the backstreet kids on the block boys and the britney christinia swifts. 

The fact that he molested children makes all of this irrelevant IMO.

ON TOPIC - It will be interesting to see if the cash grab factor outweighs the fact that they couldn't get along. I would not be the least bit surprised to see this tour blow up at some point before it finishes or possibly even starts.

Well first off, no, not it does not.  Oj Simpsom is a murderer, or at the very least civially liable for murder, but he was a hell of a football player and was damn good in those lethal weapon movies.  Now I don't want to ever see the son of a ---smurfette--- again, but back in the day... he was pretty awesome. 

Secondly MJ didn't molest children.  He was never convicted of anything.  To top it all off, shortly after his death some of the familes that accused him of molestation released statments saying that it was all a ploy for money.  I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  He wasn't a molester, he was ape-crap crazy.  Because of said craziness he had no concept of how to behave around children, getting him into seemingly inappropriate situations.

Of course we'll never know for sure, but last time I checked we live in America and around these parts you have to be proven guilty of something before people have the right condemn you. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 10:37:05 am »
I'd love to see ZZ Top.

It's worth it once... they're a bunch of old ---daisies--- but you forget how MTV was basically them and Duran Duran in the early 80s, so there's a lot of prop and stage show stuff going on.  I tend to like their 70s stuff which was kinda underrepresented, but they did do a ~10 minute medley at the end that covered most of them. 

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 10:37:52 am »
around these parts you have to be proven guilty of something before people the government has the right [to] condemn you.  


Fixt   :cheers:

Seriously, though, I kind of lean toward innocent. Stupid. Incredibly naive. Reckless. Strange and unhealthy obsession with children. But not a child molester. But, like you said, who knows?
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2012, 10:53:17 am »
OJ was in Naked Gun, Danny Glover was in Lethal Weapon.


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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2012, 11:44:21 am »
I got to see ZZ Top on the Eliminator tour.  They were awesome.  But now I much prefer their pre-Eliminator work.  Their very first "Best Of CD" is an absolute classic.

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 12:03:24 pm »


The fact that he molested children makes all of this irrelevant IMO.

ON TOPIC - It will be interesting to see if the cash grab factor outweighs the fact that they couldn't get along. I would not be the least bit surprised to see this tour blow up at some point before it finishes or possibly even starts.

Well first off, no, not it does not.  Oj Simpsom is a murderer, or at the very least civially liable for murder, but he was a hell of a football player and was damn good in those lethal weapon movies.  Now I don't want to ever see the son of a ---smurfette--- again, but back in the day... he was pretty awesome. 

Secondly MJ didn't molest children.  He was never convicted of anything.  To top it all off, shortly after his death some of the familes that accused him of molestation released statments saying that it was all a ploy for money.  I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  He wasn't a molester, he was ape-crap crazy.  Because of said craziness he had no concept of how to behave around children, getting him into seemingly inappropriate situations.

Of course we'll never know for sure, but last time I checked we live in America and around these parts you have to be proven guilty of something before people have the right condemn you. 


Like I said. IMO. To me he was guilty. You are doing the exact same thing with your OJ reference. OJ was not proven guilty. Civil liability is not the same thing.  Trust me, I think OJ was guilty as sin, but he was not proven so. Michael Jackson reached an out of court settlement in 1993 on molestation allegations. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of innocence.

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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 12:15:36 pm »
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of innocence.

Nor is it anything like a tacit admission of guilt. Come on . . . you think Kobe Bryant raped that girl? That one is just cut and dried obvious innocence, and he settled out of court. You think a person with a bajillion dollars ought to put his faith in the justice system when he can end it all by signing a check? What would you do? What if your lawyer put your odds at 75% chance of winning? What if your case was so good that he said 90% chance of winning? You have a bajillion dollars and you're going to risk your career (not to mention risk living multiple years of your life in a cage) on those odds? I mean, they're good odds. But the stakes are pretty ---smurfing--- high. Imagine what a conviction for child molestation or rape would do to your life. To your career. Imagine what long-term incarceration in a prison would do to you.

Juries are unpredictable. Of course you settle something like that if you can.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2012, 12:24:17 pm »
I've always thought Robin Williams was just as creepy as Michael Jackson.

And Kobe didn't do it?  That huge rock he bought his wife (soon to be ex) was a telltale sign that at least something happened that shouldn't have. 

And MJ went to play baseball because Stern was sick of his gambling problems not because he was tired of basketball.  All sorts of rumors and speculation when only a few (couple of?) people know the truth.

I'd bet good money on Robin Williams being a pedophile though.

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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2012, 01:08:08 pm »
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of innocence.

Nor is it anything like a tacit admission of guilt. Come on . . . you think Kobe Bryant raped that girl? That one is just cut and dried obvious innocence, and he settled out of court. You think a person with a bajillion dollars ought to put his faith in the justice system when he can end it all by signing a check? What would you do? What if your lawyer put your odds at 75% chance of winning? What if your case was so good that he said 90% chance of winning? You have a bajillion dollars and you're going to risk your career (not to mention risk living multiple years of your life in a cage) on those odds? I mean, they're good odds. But the stakes are pretty ---smurfing--- high. Imagine what a conviction for child molestation or rape would do to your life. To your career. Imagine what long-term incarceration in a prison would do to you.

Juries are unpredictable. Of course you settle something like that if you can.

Do you think drunk moron Roethlisberger didn't rape, or at minimum sexually assault, that girl? Was he charged? It goes both ways. In all of these cases something is going on. I know money comes into play in all these cases but there are plenty of rich and famous people out there not being charged with rape or child molestation. These people don't get to the point of having to settle out of court by being completely innocent.

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2012, 03:34:00 pm »
These people don't get to the point of having to settle out of court by being completely innocent.

Obviously (sometimes). Michael Jackson was hanging out with children and pretending to be one himself. Kobe Bryant was ---smurfing--- waitresses while on the road. But understand that having money can itself be the thing that leads them to this point. If I'm out of town on business and I decide to cheat on my wife, it's A LOT less likely that the girl I sleep with is going to be inclined to make a bogus claim that I raped her. Because all that can happen is that I go to jail. And that gets her nothing. You see that. The mere fact that these people are in a position to settle out of court for millions of dollars makes them targets for bogus claims.

I'm not saying that Michael Jackson or Kobe Bryant are innocent (though Kobe Bryant is innocent), I'm saying that I think they are. And I'm saying that the evidence that has convinced you of their guilt is stupid. It points to their innocence every bit as much as it points to their guilt.

I don't know anything about Roethlisberger. I don't know how it's relevant. Obviously I believe that rape does happen. Roethlisberger can be a rapist if you want. I just don't think Michael Jackson or Kobe Bryant are rapists.
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2012, 03:47:57 pm »
What happened to the thread about Van Halen, and concerts ???

You people are ridiculous....   :angry:




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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2012, 04:17:28 pm »
Not half as ridiculous as Van Halen's music.   >:D
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2012, 05:07:39 pm »
Not half as ridiculous as Van Halen's music.   >:D


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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 07:54:10 pm »
Always wished I did, but never saw them with Dave but did see them 4-5 times with Sammy.  I'm skipping this one though, unless someone buys me a ticket against my wishes and I have to go with the crowd.  The last time I saw them Eddie was so wasted he just looked at the speaker and strummed a couple of chords during his big solo, for like 5 minutes.  His back was to the audience the whole time.  I wonder what band is going to be the first to tour with at least one member in a wheelchair?  I'm just sayin' - you know it's inevitable.  Maybe it's already happened.
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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2012, 09:19:06 am »
New York Times article on the reunion and "review" of their recent 1-hour club set.  I love how the reviewer keeps calling Dave "Mr. Roth".

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/arts/music/van-halen-plays-mini-gig-at-cafe-wha-review.html?partner=rss&emc=rss


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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2012, 11:15:57 am »
February
18th – Louisville, KY
20th – Auburn Hills, MI
22nd – Indianapolis, IN
24th – Chicago, IL
28th – New York, NY
March
1st – New York, NY
3rd – Uncasville, CT
5th – Philadelphia, PA
9th – Buffalo, NY
11th – Boston, MA
15th – Montreal, QC
17th – Toronto, ON
21st – Ottawa, ON
24th – Atlantic City, NJ
28th – Washington, DC
April
1st – Rosemont, IL
10th – Sunrise, FL
12th – Tampa, FL
14rh – Orlando, FL
16th – Jacksonville, FL
19th – Atlanta, GA
21st – Greensboro, NC
25th – Charlotte, NC
27th – Nashville, TN
May
1st – Tulsa, OK
5th – Tacoma, WA
7th – Vancouver, BC
9th – Calgary, AB
11th – Edmonton, AB
17th – Winnipeg, MB
19th – St. Paul, MN
22nd – Kansas City, MO
24th – Denver, CO
27th – Las Vegas, NV
June
1st – Los Angeles, CA
3rd – Oakland, CA
5th – San Jose, CA
12th – Anaheim, CA
14th – San Diego, CA
16th – Phoenix, AZ
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« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 11:27:28 am »
Good one PBJ, 35 bucks!?!  :laugh2:
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« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 11:51:54 am »
$10 that they don't end up doing all those cities.  Odds are pretty good that someone leaves the band, gets sick, herniates a disc, or ______ to cause the tour to end. 

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« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 12:54:12 pm »
Meh, Santana, Judas Priest, Poison, and even top tier shows like Wicked etc have all rolled through here for ~$35 on sale.  Our rodeo generally only does country music, but those tickets are $10 and I've seen damn near all of the big names.

We only sell out garbage like Metallica and AC/DC at full price.

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I wouldnt want to move out there, you live there.  >:D

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« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 01:11:27 pm »
U2>Metallica. And I've seen both live.
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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2012, 01:46:25 pm »
U2>Metallica. And I've seen both live.

Yotsuya... Why did you have to go and say something like that!!?  :-\ I hate U2. As I mentioned before, they are one of the most overrated bands in existence. Oh well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  :cheers:
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2012, 01:52:35 pm »
You'll love to hate on this:
I paid $102 for my Tool ticket and have no problem with that. ;D

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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2012, 01:57:56 pm »
Mike-

I would say U2 is better because not only are they relevant still, but their sound has evolved. All I've heard from Metallica fans since Load/ReLoad/St. Anger/Duets with Lou Reed is how much everyone hates them now. The Black Album was the last good thing they did, and that was mainly for 'Enter Sandman'.
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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2012, 02:29:45 pm »
You'll love to hate on this:
I paid $102 for my Tool ticket and have no problem with that. ;D

I threw up in my mouth a little after reading that GV.

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I would say U2 is better because not only are they relevant still, but their sound has evolved. All I've heard from Metallica fans since Load/ReLoad/St. Anger/Duets with Lou Reed is how much everyone hates them now. The Black Album was the last good thing they did, and that was mainly for 'Enter Sandman'.

See, I dont see them as relevant. All of their songs sound the same to me. The real Metallica fans still appreciate their music. Yeah, Load/Reload arent as good as their early stuff, but thats them evolving to their tastes. There are still some good songs on those albums. The Lou Reed debacle is garbage though, I cant even believe they are standing behind that tripe. I listened to it on the internet, and the single they released is just god awful. Cant listen to it. The black album is great, that was their mainstream album, all the songs except for 2 were singles. Granted U2 has more in record sales, but that doesnt mean they are better. Also, if you call yourself "The Edge" youre a  :tool:
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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2012, 02:56:48 pm »
Without getting to much into it, Early U2 was a rock band, late 80s U2 was an acoustic band, mid 90s U2 was an electronic band, and current U2 is a hash-up of all 3. That allows them to stay relevant.

I'd put "...And Justice For All" up there with "The Joshua Tree" as two of my favorite complete albums, but I don't think Metallica has aged well.
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« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2012, 03:04:07 pm »
...And Justice for all is my favorite Metallica album.  :cheers: I think they have stayed relevant considering their style of music, and the genre in general. They are a heavy metal/thrash band, instead of a pop rock band like U2, seems like its harder to be in the mainstream with that type of sound.

Like Hoopz mentioned, I wonder if the Van Halen 2012 tour will make it to San Diego. I wouldnt mind seeing them live. 
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« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2012, 03:08:22 pm »
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If they make it to SD, go. When I saw them a few years ago, it was fun. I'm not a fan of Van Hagar, but with Dave there it was fun. The only drawback is that all those hot chicks from the 80s you saw at the concerts are now all not-so-hot soccer moms.  :cheers:
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2012, 12:33:11 am »
...And Justice for all is my favorite Metallica album.  :cheers:

My favorite as well. It really made it hard for me to like the black album when it came out.

All the albums after that got worse and worse, so the black album sounded better and better. Still not a fan of it, but it's not as bad as I once thought it was.

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« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2012, 09:16:13 pm »
Metallica died with Cliff Burton.
Van Halen Died with Eddie's liver.

I'm done seeing rock bands that are older than me (mid 40's).  :dunno

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« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2012, 12:31:38 am »
I know this is kind of going to sound a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, considering I'm on a message board dedicated to playing the games of yesterday, but . . . I'm with ^ that guy. If you're gonna go see some live music, see something new and interesting. Even if Van Halen and the like were once awesome (much like the fashion, cars, TV shows, movies, and politics of the 80s, most of the music is actually an abomination  ;D), you've heard it all SOOOOOOOOOOO many times now. I mean . . . doesn't the same thing over and over and over and over ever get boring? When you were a kid you loved all this new music that was coming out. Do you think that people stopped making good music? Cos if you do, I have news for you. Your parents thought the exact same thing about your music. It's no more true now than it was then (actually it's probably less true, because your Parents let's be honest, your parents disdain was for the 80s music, lol).
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« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2012, 09:34:24 am »
I wasn't gonna,but I'm gonna . . . . .

. . .  most of the music is actually an abomination  ;D), you've heard it all SOOOOOOOOOOO many times now. I mean . . . doesn't the same thing over and over and over and over ever get boring?

I both agree and disagree.  I agree because I don't listen to classic rock radio under most circumstances, or any terrestrial radio most of the time.  I really don't need to hear night moves or mr roboto or comfortably numb ever again, frankly.  I spent time as an oldies/motown/classic rock/90's alternative DJ in college and I can put Stone temple pilots, gin blossoms and all motown in the same category.  I appreciate them, I just don't choose to listen, I can play back the entire song in my head, thanks. 

Now I actively seek the new and different, and find myself a lot more critical. 

Primal drumming > gregorian harmony > western art (classical) music > blues/origins of rock > classic rock era > top 40 era >  grunge > the crap of today. 

So yes, I think there is less good music reaching my ears now.  with the advent of youtube, DIY recording, a lot of crap that used to get filtered now gets some undeserved exposure.  I often go to the virtual music store to browse and come away empty handed.  I've explored and set aside electronic, filled in the holes in my 70's through 90's records, assembled a comprehensive collection of basically all Ska ever recorded, etc.   Looking over my current playlist, you see Dirty projectors, Beck, patti smith, gillian welch, OCMS and I realize I'm headed towards roots oriented pop with an indie leaning lately.  My first loves Zeppelin and Halen are not in heavy rotation, They're more like a bottle of 25 y/o scotch to be pulled out, sipped, savored and put in the cabinet for the next time the kids are out of the house for the night.

BUT:  I'm still going to see them this spring for several reasons.
1.  my sense of completion on seeing a good cross section great bands of the Classic era - the ones that meant the most to me, a 39yo.  Who, VH, Ozzy, Metallica, Yes, the english beat, janes addiction, grateful dead (don't listen to them, glad I saw them).  I've never seen DLR solo or with VH, I want to cover it. Many of these bands are no longer available in original form due to deaths, etc., it's a limited time offer.  I'm not such a completionist that I want to see the undead stones, I just consider them a miss for me.  I don't like the 2nd half of Springsteen's catalog, but I'd sure go to see him if the opportunity arose.  He is a worthwhile, history making artist.

2.  I really like and enjoy the memory of busting a {squirrel food} in the back of a 5 liter mustang down by the lake in time to the pounding bass drums of 1984.  The music of VH was part of the soundtrack to an important and fun time in my life, that I don't mind being transported back to for 2 hours or so.

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« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2012, 10:30:16 am »
That said  ;D, first single drops.  hope this is not the best they've got, but I'm scared.

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« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2012, 10:46:51 am »
I mean . . . doesn't the same thing over and over and over and over ever get boring?

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« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2012, 10:48:49 am »
I wasn't gonna,but I'm gonna . . . . .

. . .  most of the music is actually an abomination  ;D), you've heard it all SOOOOOOOOOOO many times now. I mean . . . doesn't the same thing over and over and over and over ever get boring?

I both agree and disagree.  I agree because I don't listen to classic rock radio under most circumstances, or any terrestrial radio most of the time.  I really don't need to hear night moves or mr roboto or comfortably numb ever again, frankly.  I spent time as an oldies/motown/classic rock/90's alternative DJ in college and I can put Stone temple pilots, gin blossoms and all motown in the same category.  I appreciate them, I just don't choose to listen, I can play back the entire song in my head, thanks. 

Now I actively seek the new and different, and find myself a lot more critical. 

Primal drumming > gregorian harmony > western art (classical) music > blues/origins of rock > classic rock era > top 40 era >  grunge > the crap of today. 

So yes, I think there is less good music reaching my ears now.  with the advent of youtube, DIY recording, a lot of crap that used to get filtered now gets some undeserved exposure.  I often go to the virtual music store to browse and come away empty handed.  I've explored and set aside electronic, filled in the holes in my 70's through 90's records, assembled a comprehensive collection of basically all Ska ever recorded, etc.   Looking over my current playlist, you see Dirty projectors, Beck, patti smith, gillian welch, OCMS and I realize I'm headed towards roots oriented pop with an indie leaning lately.  My first loves Zeppelin and Halen are not in heavy rotation, They're more like a bottle of 25 y/o scotch to be pulled out, sipped, savored and put in the cabinet for the next time the kids are out of the house for the night.

BUT:  I'm still going to see them this spring for several reasons.
1.  my sense of completion on seeing a good cross section great bands of the Classic era - the ones that meant the most to me, a 39yo.  Who, VH, Ozzy, Metallica, Yes, the english beat, janes addiction, grateful dead (don't listen to them, glad I saw them).  I've never seen DLR solo or with VH, I want to cover it. Many of these bands are no longer available in original form due to deaths, etc., it's a limited time offer.  I'm not such a completionist that I want to see the undead stones, I just consider them a miss for me.  I don't like the 2nd half of Springsteen's catalog, but I'd sure go to see him if the opportunity arose.  He is a worthwhile, history making artist.

2.  I really like and enjoy the memory of busting a {squirrel food} in the back of a 5 liter mustang down by the lake in time to the pounding bass drums of 1984.  The music of VH was part of the soundtrack to an important and fun time in my life, that I don't mind being transported back to for 2 hours or so.

3.  I don't need to justify a 3rd reason to the likes of you!  I said Good Day.

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« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2012, 11:17:25 am »

3.  I don't need to justify a 3rd reason to the likes of you!  I said Good Day.


I was worth two, though, which makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.   :cheers:
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« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2012, 12:51:47 pm »
I had another, just got tired of typing, so consider yourself to rate the full 3 reasons!  Now go pay to see the live act of your choice.   8)

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2012, 10:36:11 pm »
Btw, at risk of sounding sappy, it occurs to me that I should mention, your response was really well written.
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 09:16:12 am »
Thanks for saying that, Shmokes - I think about what's happening with music all the time and feel like i've pretty much figured out where i am with it. 

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« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2012, 02:31:38 pm »
METALLICA RULES!!!  :lol
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« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2012, 02:32:54 pm »
METALLICA RULES!!!  :lol

It's not 1991 anymore, bro.   >:D
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« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2012, 02:34:14 pm »
METALLICA RULES!!!  :lol

It's not 1991 anymore, bro.   >:D

Damn I wish it was... Things were so much better back then...  ;)
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« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2012, 03:16:40 pm »
METALLICA RULED!!!  :lol

Fixed that for you. ;)

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« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2012, 03:20:58 pm »
METALLICA RULED!!!  :lol

Fixed that for you. ;)


 :cheers: that was a good one. I laughed.  ;D
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« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2012, 03:47:12 pm »
METALLICA RULED!!!  :lol
I actually saw Metallica in concert back in 1990, and the next week I saw The Cure at the same venue. Both put on great shows.
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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2012, 04:20:07 pm »
My cousin and I were at the San Diego taping of live ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- binge and purge for the Metallica box set. It was my first concert, I was 11 years old, lost the ticket stub though.  :-\
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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2012, 05:23:42 pm »
. . . . lost the ticket stub though.  :-\

 . . . Then it didn't happen!   :cheers:

METALLICA RULED!!!  :lol

Fixed that for you. ;)

:lol

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2012, 08:17:24 pm »
So back on topic, I listened to their single "Tattoo" and watched the video.  If you know anything about Van Halen and hear this with your eyes closed, it's unmistakeably 'Halen.  And very good.  The video sucks 'cause it's a bunch of old geezers and an out-of-place young pup, but the song is good.  Not good enough for me to buy a ticket (swore off old bands in concert four years ago much like others here) but I'll definitely get the CD (as opposed to finding digital copies on my own).
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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2012, 09:14:11 pm »
So back on topic, I listened to their single "Tattoo" and watched the video.  If you know anything about Van Halen and hear this with your eyes closed, it's unmistakeably 'Halen.  And very good.  The video sucks 'cause it's a bunch of old geezers and an out-of-place young pup, but the song is good.  Not good enough for me to buy a ticket (swore off old bands in concert four years ago much like others here) but I'll definitely get the CD (as opposed to finding digital copies on my own).
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Lol - I listened to the sample online but didn't want to see the video for the reasons you mentioned. I will be buying the CD as well.


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« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2012, 10:27:45 pm »
an out-of-place young pup,


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Not the same without Michael Anthony!  But the song is pretty good.

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2012, 12:37:34 pm »
Got my tickets today for the Minnesota (St Paul Xcel Energy Center) show! :woot

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« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2012, 01:39:07 pm »
Got tix today for Kool & the Gang (with VH closing) for Greensboro NC.  Charlotte NC is a venue I like better, but their show was on Wednesday night. 

As far as the first single Tattoo, I'm not a big fan, but the other new song Shes a Woman is much more to my liking. 

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« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2012, 02:28:26 pm »
Tattoo is growing on me. It gets in my head. She's the woman sounds like it will be a good song also.

The show in St Paul is on a Saturday night.  :applaud: Kick ass.

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« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2012, 03:45:05 pm »
You can hear "woman" here if you want to check it out.

http://www.vhnd.com/2012/01/07/video-van-halens-new-song-shes-the-woman-at-cafe-wha/

also on the front page of vhnd right now they've got clips of other songs, mr. frosty and also blood and fire, which i've heard before.  I'm raising my album anticipation status from "vaguely concerned" to "cautiously optimistic". 

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Re: Van Halen 2012 tour (and album)
« Reply #75 on: May 18, 2012, 12:20:23 pm »
Who has tickets to the "postponed" shows?

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« Reply #76 on: May 18, 2012, 03:20:19 pm »
I am going tomorrow night. Hopefully they show up. We will see.

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« Reply #77 on: May 18, 2012, 03:49:24 pm »
I went to the Greensboro show and enjoyed it.  I was happy with the value for my money, but I'll admit I'm certainly biased as a fan.  The average age was probably 37 and all the old farts had a good time.  One benefit of this modern era was I got a nice boot of the show, a few nice phone vids and the greensboro observer's pro photos DL'd to help jog the ol' memory from time to time. 

I don't think they're oversaturated - they just added dates recently.  G'boro was probably 75% of capacity, better for me than asses and elbows everywhere.   

I saw the notice of the postponements and I'm curious about the reason.  Frankly I'm glad I'm not affected.  At Greensboro, Dave was certainly rougher towards the end but he never lost his voice or anything.  These dudes are fairly old, who knows?  Hope everyone's all right. 

 

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« Reply #78 on: May 18, 2012, 04:12:05 pm »
According to Rolling Stone they are fighting and cannot seem to get along. Tickets in Detroit cost $300. Seriously? I wouldn't pay that much to see ANY show. $50 is my absolute cutoff on concert tickets. Anything higher and I will pass. I have better things to spend my money on.

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« Reply #79 on: May 18, 2012, 04:30:11 pm »
Bummer.  I agree $75 or so is my limit. 

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« Reply #80 on: May 18, 2012, 05:02:55 pm »
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« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2012, 02:04:47 am »
According to Rolling Stone they are fighting and cannot seem to get along.

Never saw THAT coming.
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« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2012, 02:07:13 am »
It was a pretty good show. Eddie rocked. Dave was hard to hear at times. Overall, good show for me. I enjoyed it.

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« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2012, 10:30:02 am »
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/05/20/public-relations/

It would have been more convincing if the occupant of one of the other three tour buses had stopped and participated, but I believe this.  More reliable than RS' "unnamed source close to the band".  Just haven't seen the indications of infighting or bad shows. 

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« Reply #84 on: May 21, 2012, 12:52:54 pm »
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/05/20/public-relations/

It would have been more convincing if the occupant of one of the other three tour buses had stopped and participated, but I believe this.  More reliable than RS' "unnamed source close to the band".  Just haven't seen the indications of infighting or bad shows. 

Good clip.  I haven't kept up with this at all but VH has so many personal connections for me it's crazy.  Maybe I do need to see this show.  But then I remember the disaster that Eddie created at the last show I saw.  Too scared to go back.
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« Reply #85 on: May 21, 2012, 01:47:08 pm »
Rest assured, ed is straight and playing better than 2007 by a long shot (didn't catch a 2007 show but heard a couple boots).  And remarkably mobile considering all the orthopedics work.  I'm glad I went.  Probably better than my last show (right here right now w/Sammy, 1992 or so).  Dave's 80% of his old self singing and mobility wise, but by no means in robert plant (decrepit) territory. 

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« Reply #86 on: May 21, 2012, 02:04:30 pm »
http://www.vhnd.com/2012/05/20/public-relations/

It would have been more convincing if the occupant of one of the other three tour buses had stopped and participated, but I believe this.  More reliable than RS' "unnamed source close to the band".  Just haven't seen the indications of infighting or bad shows. 

Well that's cool. Shame on RS for trying to create false rumors.

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« Reply #87 on: May 21, 2012, 02:09:21 pm »
Well that's cool. Shame on RS for trying to create false rumors.

They're just doing their thing, you know.  Could be they got bum info from a peeved venue booker/promoter having to work on a reschedule.  I think they largely try to publish the truth on band news.  their political guy Taibbe on the other hand . . . . . . .

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« Reply #88 on: June 17, 2012, 09:37:23 pm »
Caught them last night here in Phoenix. Great show all around.
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