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25 inch 4x3 monitor
« on: September 22, 2011, 12:29:38 am »
im looking to replace my wells gardner k7191 with a pc monitor , what monitor would be best ? does anyone make 25 4,3 monitor or do i need to put in a 22 ws monitor
if anyone has a 22 lcd ws in a 25 inch cab cab you post pics please

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 02:24:07 am »
The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 04:38:57 pm »
The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.

What brand/model LCD 27 inch? 

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 05:46:42 pm »
now im more confused , how can a 4:3 be 16 :10 and a 27 inch be 24 inch

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 05:53:21 pm »
A 27" 16:10 monitor works out to:
y = 14.31"
x = 22.896"
x (usable) = 19.08"
waste = 3.8"

A 24" 4:3 monitor works out to:
y = 14.4"
x = 19.2"
x (usable) = 19.2"
waste = N/A

So what he is saying is by using a 16:10 27" monitor, you achieve the same image you would get with a 4:3 24" monitor.

(Note, the 'waste' is just the part of the screen that is not being used when running a 4:3 window)
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 10:22:34 pm »
A 27" 16:10 monitor works out to:
y = 14.31"
x = 22.896"
x (usable) = 19.08"
waste = 3.8"

A 24" 4:3 monitor works out to:
y = 14.4"
x = 19.2"
x (usable) = 19.2"
waste = N/A

So what he is saying is by using a 16:10 27" monitor, you achieve the same image you would get with a 4:3 24" monitor.

(Note, the 'waste' is just the part of the screen that is not being used when running a 4:3 window)
dont think a 27 inch monitor will fit

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 03:49:57 pm »
Why is it referred to as 16:10 instead of 8:5?

For all the other aspect ratios they use the lowest numbers.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 04:45:50 pm »
To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 05:14:53 pm »
To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.

I see, they had to dumb down the aspect ratios so the ignorant masses could understand them.


I suppose 4x3 is more or less obsolete so we don't have to worry about them being renamed 16x12.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 06:57:39 pm »
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 12:33:59 am »
think im getting this on it 20 inches across 15.7 high 5 wide and ways 10 lbs aspect 16:10 . what does everyone think ? looks like it will fit very nice
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 01:10:37 am »

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 05:20:35 pm »
To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.

I see, they had to dumb down the aspect ratios so the ignorant masses could understand them.


I suppose 4x3 is more or less obsolete so we don't have to worry about them being renamed 16x12.

Well, every ratio should be referenced to 1 and then it would be easy to understand which is wider, i.e. 1.33:1 (4x3), 1.6:1 (16x10), 1.78:1 (16x9), etc.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2011, 07:08:26 am »
for 3:4 monitors... it can be easier to find them on ebay then stores.  Not to many being made now... but lots of old ones around.  But it will be used and stuck pixel chances increase.


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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2020, 10:31:08 am »
The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.

There are 40 inch Pioneer plasma monitors out there, they are awesome for wall mounted cabinets.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2020, 06:03:11 am »
Honestly your best bet for a flat screen at this point is to get the LG 48" OLED and mount it vertically. It'll fit in some of the bigger 25" monitor cabinets.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2020, 10:59:20 am »
I mean you could get a 32"-40" LCD TV and mount it vertically in the cab?

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2021, 01:14:36 am »
The LG OLED 48" is the best option. It's the only one in that size class that has variable refresh.

Getting a flat panel that doesn't have variable refresh is stupid in 2021.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2021, 07:30:06 pm »
Putting a $1600 OLED TV that is too large in a cabinet is ridiculous advice.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2021, 11:57:03 pm »
post a pic of your cab
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2021, 05:54:58 am »
Go to Goodwill.

I picked up 2 20" 4:3 monitors (ViewSonic) for $5 each (senior discount).  They work great.  Heavy though and no stuck pixels.

You can get away with 17" too.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2021, 08:49:32 am »
Putting a $1600 OLED TV that is too large in a cabinet is ridiculous advice.

Nickel and diming something that's supposed to be an impressive amusement machine is ridiculous advice.

Arcade games SUCK without variable refresh on a flat panel. A real CRT or a variable refresh monitor are the only quality options.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2021, 04:17:53 pm »
No silly.... his point is for $1600 you can just buy a fully restored cabinet with the monitor you want in most cases.  Cost absolutely matters. 

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2021, 06:56:19 pm »
It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.

Not everyone wants an original cabinet. Some people want to be able to run old games via emulation and new PC games as well.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2021, 07:15:20 pm »
instead of 1600 dollars you can get the samsung q80t for around 900 at 50in its a qled with VRR. you could also get a monitor with freesync/gsync that has a range to support all the arcade games using at least double games original hrz.
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2021, 08:22:28 pm »
It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.

Not everyone wants an original cabinet. Some people want to be able to run old games via emulation and new PC games as well.

Unreal. You're abrasive enough to pull even me out of seclusion.

Your viewpoints are drawing rather negative attention. Just fair warning.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2021, 11:49:06 am »
Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.

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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2021, 01:17:21 pm »
Ohhh, Internet tough guy. Watch out!

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2021, 01:23:24 pm »
Personally I feel arcade games should be played on CRTís. But to each his own. But, spending 2k on a monitor for a mame machine is crazy.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2021, 02:14:56 pm »
Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.

Well there's a genius.  He threatens a global moderator, which can perma-ban him and then warns said moderator should be afraid when he can do exactly jack and squat to him.  Go ahead and perma-ban this guy please, we don't need anymore paper tigers throwing out unwarranted hostility. 

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2021, 02:42:15 pm »
Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.

Well there's a genius.  He threatens a global moderator, which can perma-ban him and then warns said moderator should be afraid when he can do exactly jack and squat to him.  Go ahead and perma-ban this guy please, we don't need anymore paper tigers throwing out unwarranted hostility.
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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2021, 02:19:00 am »
Sorted.

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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2021, 08:43:06 am »
Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.

Thanks for that. Funniest thing I've read this year.

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2021, 10:07:55 am »
It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.


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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2021, 10:19:33 am »
Anyone else amused that a necrobump to a nine year old thread has caused issues?   :dizzy:

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Re: 25 inch 4x3 monitor
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2021, 04:41:36 am »
The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.

There are 40 inch Pioneer plasma monitors out there, they are awesome for wall mounted cabinets.
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