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Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« on: September 19, 2011, 02:45:14 pm »
I imagine it would be pretty fun to play some NES and SNES maybe even some N64 games with a joystick and arcade buttons. I can imagine Battletoads and Double Dragon (The Ultimate Team) being a fun game to play arcade style. Do many people do this? If so, what are the most fun games to play like this?

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 03:19:03 pm »
If you want an exercise in frustration, try and play Mario 64 on an 8way. (:

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 03:21:49 pm »
I imagine it would be pretty fun to play some NES and SNES maybe even some N64 games with a joystick and arcade buttons. I can imagine Battletoads and Double Dragon (The Ultimate Team) being a fun game to play arcade style. Do many people do this? If so, what are the most fun games to play like this?

Battle toads and double dragon are arcade games why not play them in mame?

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 03:22:58 pm »
If you want an exercise in frustration, try and play Mario 64 on an 8way. (:
:) That is why I said "maybe" to the N64.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 03:27:21 pm »
Sega Genesis and SNES works pretty good if you mostly play platform and arcade style games.
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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 03:42:10 pm »
I imagine it would be pretty fun to play some NES and SNES maybe even some N64 games with a joystick and arcade buttons. I can imagine Battletoads and Double Dragon (The Ultimate Team) being a fun game to play arcade style. Do many people do this? If so, what are the most fun games to play like this?

Battle toads and double dragon are arcade games why not play them in mame?

I am talking about the combined game "Battletoads and Double Dragon: The Ultimate Team". It plays more like Battletoads than like Double Dragon, but they have some enemies from both games and you can pick between the three toads or Billy and Jimmy. I personally think it is more fun than Battletoads. Also though, the NES Battletoads and arcade Battletoads are different games.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 04:17:26 pm »
Sometime if you played a game too much on a gamepad, you end up hating everything but the gamepad you played it on, and that is mostly out of habit. Most older games seem to be at least decent on joystick though.

Certain N64 games do work as well. Games that you do not need to do any precision aiming on, and never need to have the thumbstick at anything but full force often translate well. I remember the first N64 game I tried on arcade controls was Battletanx, and was actually presently surprised that it played OK.

Battle toads and double dragon are arcade games why not play them in mame?

Battletoads is really different from the console to arcade, they are both well worth playing. Double Dragon is different too, but the NES one isn't as good as the arcade version. Double Dragon II on the other hand, I personally think is better on the NES.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 04:28:55 pm »
The Nes games will probably play well, there was play choice after all, same with the snes ones, but really most people prefer to play them on a pad, it just doesn't feel right to play some of them with arcade controls.

The N64 is not good on a cab, really, you can't play it with anything other than n64 controllers.  It doesn't work on a cab because most of the fun games have analog controls.  I use xbox controllers to play console games on my cab, and even then its hard to play N64 games, the xbox controllers have analog sticks, but don't have 6 buttons on the face like the n64 controllers do.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 04:38:34 pm »
Agreed, a ton of N64 games, including a majority of the best ones, do not play the best. So many games are only playable on the 64 controller. If you are thinking N64 games, start with trying games like Dr. Mario 64 and experiment outward.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 04:49:27 pm »
Buy a X Arcade and you can play nearly all the consoles better.  :P
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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 05:03:53 pm »
The U360, if installed, will allow more use of N64 and other modern games from consoles. The caveat being, the more modern the console game, the more layers of menu crap you typically have to wade through in order to get to the game. (OK maybe not the MOST modern... it may have peaked at some point). I enjoy Mario Kart 64 and Big Mountain on my cab fairly regularly.

As for Mario 64? Yep, it's a super pain with an 8-way. Try it with a good flightstick though, and be amazed. Seriously.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 08:21:24 pm »
Ive got Nes, Snes, Master System, Genesis on my MAME cab and i can play all the games great, I actually prefer playing the SNES games over most of the MAME games. I did have N64 as well but it got too frustrating to play so I removed it.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 10:22:33 pm »
The U360, if installed, will allow more use of N64 and other modern games from consoles. The caveat being, the more modern the console game, the more layers of menu crap you typically have to wade through in order to get to the game. (OK maybe not the MOST modern... it may have peaked at some point). I enjoy Mario Kart 64 and Big Mountain on my cab fairly regularly.

As for Mario 64? Yep, it's a super pain with an 8-way. Try it with a good flightstick though, and be amazed. Seriously.

I don't even care much for the u360 and the N64.  For non analog games, you'll want a restrictor.  And it does not come out once installed.  So once you have it set up, the limited range of movement in the U360 makes it hard to control analog games like the N64.

I think the flightstick idea is a good one if you want to do N64 gaming.  A cab with two-4 of those would be sweet for N64 support.  That would be a pure N64 build though.  Maybe good for a handful of arcade games.
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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2011, 12:10:52 am »
I think most first person shooters (WASD and mouse controls) would work okay with a trigger joystick and a trackball.
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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2011, 03:29:55 am »
IMO it goes very well. Never had any problems with it, except the standing part... 2 hours standing is nothing for me.
Mario64 sucks anyway, so don't bother about that. I think it is the most overrated game ever (some even say it IS the best game ever... geeeezzz!). It might have been a game changer, 2D to 3D, but the gameplay is SO SLOW and boring, I think we might say it sucks in 2011.

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Re: Playing non-arcade games with arcade controls
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2011, 08:55:40 am »
I pretty much concur with what everyone else has said so far.   I have Atari 2600, NES, SNES, Genesis, Gameboy, and Gameboy Advance on my arcade.   I find that they all play pretty well.  Anything newer than that and it's tough, like we've already covered, because of the 8 ways and limited buttons.  Even SNES sometimes it hard for me, just because I have to think of where I have the L and R buttons assigned to, but it's not too bad.

What I do on my machine is that I have two USB NES controllers that I keep inside my control panel.   I have my cab configured so that I could either use the normal arcade controls, or else I can pull out the NES controllers and use those instead.   I have chairs for my cab, so the standing part is not an issue for me.  But some people said it's hard for them to control Mario is Super Mario Bros 3 with arcade controls.  I do not find it to be difficult, but I guess others do.  I guess when you've played something your whole life on the original controllers, trying to switch to something else is hard for some people.   Anyway, I only have NES controllers because that's the system I grew up playing, and it's very near and dear to me.   You could have a similar setup for probably any other type of controller, or even all of them if you wanted to.