Any interest in original cab dimensions

[Jakobud]

Yeah... I did some similar things except it involved mirroring the leftside vertically (since the leftside is closer to the camera) and then scaling the image accurately in Autocad and then making the measurements.  I do stuff like this alot.  I think my measurements are more accurate but it's up to you.

[Jakobud]

I'm having some trouble getting the plans into CorelDRAW or Illustrator. Apparently both programs only support the other formats of Autocad and not the DWF format. The only converters I could find need Autocad to work. Since the PDF and JPG both are bitmaps they don't convert to either vector program very well either.

I found that I could copy the drawing from the Autodesk Viewer, but that only copies the current view. Trouble is that when the current view is the entire image then the accuracy of the drawing is reduced. And if you zoom in you get the accuray, but then the image is of course cut off.

Am I missing something obvious here?

I'm not sure why you are trying to take it into Illustrator.  You can easily print out the PDF or JPG's to use when constructing or designing...

[patrickl]

I'm having some trouble getting the plans into CorelDRAW or Illustrator. Apparently both programs only support the other formats of Autocad and not the DWF format. The only converters I could find need Autocad to work. Since the PDF and JPG both are bitmaps they don't convert to either vector program very well either.

I found that I could copy the drawing from the Autodesk Viewer, but that only copies the current view. Trouble is that when the current view is the entire image then the accuracy of the drawing is reduced. And if you zoom in you get the accuray, but then the image is of course cut off.

Am I missing something obvious here?

I'm not sure why you are trying to take it into Illustrator.  You can easily print out the PDF or JPG's to use when constructing or designing...

If I was buliding an exact duplicate of the plans perhaps I could yes. Allthough both are bitmap formats and they don't print realy well. Thing is, the files (or at least the Galaga one I'm working with) basicaly only contain the exterior dimensions. I need to add a monitor shelf, a back door, a drawer, replacable control panels etc etc ... i.e. take the exterior design and then work with it. I'm working with the copy I took from the Autodesk Viewer and I guess it's usable enough anyway.

ps I hope I don't come over as being disrespective, I'm really appreciative of your work. It's just that I'm trying to use the files as a base for desiging a full cab and using the files directly would help me not to have to redraw them. I guess there would be others too not just using the files "as is".

[Jakobud]

No disrespect taken don't worry about it.  I'm just trying to figure out how I can help you.  I understand what your saying about wanting to just 'edit' the plans as they are.  You are also saying that they don't print very well?  Even the PDF file??

[patrickl]

I'm having some trouble getting the plans into CorelDRAW or Illustrator. Apparently both programs only support the other formats of Autocad and not the DWF format. The only converters I could find need Autocad to work. Since the PDF and JPG both are bitmaps they don't convert to either vector program very well either.

I found that I could copy the drawing from the Autodesk Viewer, but that only copies the current view. Trouble is that when the current view is the entire image then the accuracy of the drawing is reduced. And if you zoom in you get the accuray, but then the image is of course cut off.

Am I missing something obvious here?

I'm not sure why you are trying to take it into Illustrator.  You can easily print out the PDF or JPG's to use when constructing or designing...

If I was buliding an exact duplicate of the plans perhaps I could yes. Allthough both are bitmap formats and they don't print realy well. Thing is, the files (or at least the Galaga one I'm working with) basicaly only contain the exterior dimensions. I need to add a monitor shelf, a back door, a drawer, replacable control panels etc etc ... i.e. take the exterior design and then work with it. I'm working with the copy I took from the Autodesk Viewer and I guess it's usable enough anyway.

ps I hope I don't come over as being disrespective, I'm really appreciative of your work. It's just that I'm trying to use the files as a base for desiging a full cab and using the files directly would help me not to have to redraw them. I guess there would be others too not just using the files "as is".

No disrespect taken don't worry about it.  I'm just trying to figure out how I can help you.  I understand what your saying about wanting to just 'edit' the plans as they are.  You are also saying that they don't print very well?  Even the PDF file??

OK, thanks.
The thing with the PDF file is that it contains a bitmap image. Try zooming in and you'll see the pixels. So it's basically the same image as the JPG. It might also be my printer, but the combination of a bitmap image and the gray coloring makes the lettering sometimes hard to read. Bits of the letters are not printed. The print I got from the Autodesk viewer looks a lot better.

[Jakobud]

Finally an update.  These plans are a long time coming.  They were difficult to aquire and even more difficult to draft. Anyways I know a lot of people want these:

Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong 3
Donkey Kong Jr.
Mario Bros. (non-widebody)
Nintendo .VS
Pong (model 320)
Popeye


www.jakobud.com for the plans

[zorg]

just a note to say thank's for your great contribution.
thank's for the effort, time involved in this project
thank's for sharing with everybody

this is a great ressources for all of us.

thank's

[nosaj55]

thx alot jakobud.

[Jakobud]

Brought to my attention that there were a couple missing dimensions on those Nintendo (DK, DK3, DKJr, etc) plans.  I will get updated versions up tonight.  Note: None of the current dimensions will be changed.  Only a few extra's will be added.

UPDATED:  Done!  Changed plans:

DK
DK3
DKJr.
MarioBros(nonWB)
Nintendo Vs
Popeye

[neogeofan]

Hi guys.  I am looking for absolutely authentic dimensions and layout
information for the Neo-Geo arcade control panel.  I'm not an expert,
so if there were different SNK authorized layouts throughout the years
I would like to find out about that.  I am only interested in the
layouts for machines that SNK produced, I don't want dimensions from
hacked up Neo-Geo conversions.  In particular I would like to know the
EXACT measurements for spacing and button and joystick placement.
Width of the whole panel, slant angle of the panel, and if there was a
curviture where the slanted part meets the vertical front face of the
machine, what the radius of curviture might be.  I need this info
because I am attempting to produce authentic arcade Neo-Geo
controllers for me and my buds.  I would also appreciate seeing photos
of the panels if anyone has them.  I appreciate any help that can be
offered, thanks!

-Neogeofan

[Jakobud]

Neogeofan, there was a similar thread about this only last week you should be able to easily find.  It didn't have dimensions listed but it talked about the variatious button configurations and stuff.

[JoyMonkey]

First off, well done Jakobud! The plans rock! But I wonder if this guy on Ebay has ripped them off:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3281570595&category=13716

I know PartickL has been asking about this too, but has anyone found an easy way to open the DWF files in Illustrator or Corel Draw?
I'd like to get the file as an editable vector image so I can do a full size plot of the necessary cabinet parts, or if I'm feeling particularly lazy I could CNC some.

I've tried using AutoCAD2000 and FlexiSign, but neither supports DWF.

Any ideas?

[Jakobud]

First off, well done Jakobud! The plans rock! But I wonder if this guy on Ebay has ripped them off:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3281570595&category=13716

I know PartickL has been asking about this too, but has anyone found an easy way to open the DWF files in Illustrator or Corel Draw?
I'd like to get the file as an editable vector image so I can do a full size plot of the necessary cabinet parts, or if I'm feeling particularly lazy I could CNC some.

I've tried using AutoCAD2000 and FlexiSign, but neither supports DWF.

Any ideas?

I am currently redoing all my cabinet plans at the moment.  I'm splitting them up into multiple pages per cabinet to show them larger and in more detail.  I am also figuring out some different file formats that people can download and use for the very reason you asked about.  Expect an update within a couple weeks with a whole new format.

Regarding people ripping off my plans... i dunno what I can do about it.    Anyone can open up my plans and sit down and copy the dimensions onto a piece of paper in front of them, and presto... a copy of my plans and all they have to say is that they went and measured a real cabinet.  I'll throw on a disclaimer on there someday soon, but still its not like its gonna help much.

The fact is, that I am here doing this so I can give freely to this community.  If 50 people get something positive from that and there are a couple of people on the side who are ripping off my stuff... no big deal.  I'm happy that those 50 people can use the plans.  I'd never think about charging for them.  I won't let a few rotten apples ruin everything.

[DrewKaree]

Hey Jakobud

two things....I didn't want to pester you about it.....did you have any luck with the 6 player X-Men cab dimensions?

Second, isn't there some way you can watermark them or embed your website's address into them?  I'm sure nobody here would mind having that on there, as you have provided us all with a free service for which we owe you a great deal.  

I, for one, can figure out how to plot the lines if your web address was listed across the image, and it wouldn't bother me in the least to know that someone's gonna have a harder time stealing your time and effort and claiming it as their own.

[teetu]

ooooooooh! I'd love to see some Street Fighter II dimensions! Or any other SF2 cab (CE, Turbo, SSF2, SSF2T).  

And not some conversion cab dimensions either! The real deal oneS!

thanks!

[Jakobud]

ooooooooh! I'd love to see some Street Fighter II dimensions! Or any other SF2 cab (CE, Turbo, SSF2, SSF2T).  

And not some conversion cab dimensions either! The real deal oneS!

thanks!

No guys I'm sorry I haven't had much luck finding a 6 player XMen cabinet.  They are around I think but I just can't seem to find one.

And regarding the SF2 cabinets... wow there were so many conversions of those games I have no idea what the true original cabinets looked like... but I will keep my eyes open.

And regarding the watermarks and stuff, yeah I'm thinking about stuff like that and taking it all into consideration on my redesign of it all.

[macattack]

I just so happen to have a 6 player xmen machine!!  I would be more than happy to measure it up (when i can get to the darn thing) and send the dimensions over to Jakobud for his expert drafting.

So whats the plan for a 6 player xmen cabinet build? someone got a couple of spare monitors?? I know its emulated in mame, but not sure you can do the trick with 2 monitors as the original board does...

Gotta say it is a beast of a cabinet!!
(pic does not show the 30" of control surface that goes on the front of the cabinet)

[Jakobud]

Cool mac, I will be in touch with you about this.  Its on the way drewkaree.

[DrewKaree]

MUCHAS Gracias!  

No, actually, the plan is to use that cab and have two separate setups i.e. one computer running whatever you wish, with the other running whatever THEY wish with two separate monitors (I'm the local "give your old puter to this guy" guy, so hardware isn't an issue).  

Basically, two two-person cabs, and that's the ONLY cab I saw that I like the design on.  I take that back, there WAS a football game (mebbe John Elway?  Don't remember) I saw where each player had their own setup, but that looked even bigger than the X-men cab!

[Adam T]

I am in the process of restoring three Tempest uprights so if someone is interested in the dementions of it let me know if not Iwon't go threw the trouble. If so the measurements will be exact to the T.

[Jakobud]

I am in the process of restoring three Tempest uprights so if someone is interested in the dementions of it let me know if not Iwon't go threw the trouble. If so the measurements will be exact to the T.

Okay Adam I'll be in touch with you on this.  There were some Tempest measurements provided a while back but they were incomplete and I never got anyone to finish them.

[Adam T]

This is how I will give you the measurements if you want them I will make you some stincles and you pay for the shipping thats all that I ask. I'm funny about posting measurements on the web so anybody can use it to make money. I just made two control panels this week which you could not tell the differance between that and the original. If you want that I will give you that also.

[DrewKaree]

WTF are "stincles"?

What about e-mailing them to him?  I don't need these, but it doesn't seem as if Jakobud, of all people, should pay to have these shipped to him.  He's done all this stuff for FREE, fer cryin' out loud!  

He's also had the issue of someone possibily making money off of his hard work, so I bet he understands, but e-mailing them isn't the same as posting on the web.  Do it that way.

[JesterDEV]

I am in the process of restoring three Tempest uprights so if someone is interested in the dementions of it let me know if not Iwon't go threw the trouble. If so the measurements will be exact to the T.

Okay Adam I'll be in touch with you on this.  There were some Tempest measurements provided a while back but they were incomplete and I never got anyone to finish them.

I'd be interested in them.

[Adam T]

I'm not trying to be a jerk I'll send the measurements
to him if he wants them that way I didn't know he was 90% finished with it. I just figured that a stincle would be easy for him to get it exact and he will always have it to make as many as he wanted. I know projects take money already and I'm not making money off of it either
I think that $8to $15 in shipping is not bad for a entire stincle for a whole Tempest cabinet including the control panel and marquee. There is alot of work that goes into making a stincle for a cabinet and all I was asking was the cost to ship it to him. But if he wants some mesurements sent too his email OK.

[Adam T]

WTF are "stincles"?  

A stincle is a pre cut patern of what ever you are making to ensure that it is exact every time and it saves alot of time and aggrivation espesually if you are not a very good at carpentry. basicly you don't have to think just trace and cut and put together. and you can make a 1,000 Tempest cab's if you want.


Why do you have to be so rude when I'm trying to help make things easy for someone?

[Adam T]

Jacobud, I recieved the Tempest cabinet layout and I'm going to pull some measurements this Sunday and you should get them later that day. do you want the measurements for the control panel and marquee also
or do you have them?

[froggerman]

I think the word you are looking for is 'stencil'. Or template.

[Adam T]

Sorry I don't take time for spelling.

[DrewKaree]

Why do you have to be so rude when I'm trying to help make things easy for someone?

I wasn't being rude.  I have paged through this SIX page thread and viewed other threads where Jakobud offered his help for free.  I also read the thread where someone may have stolen his work to make a profit from his free service for the members on this board.  Btw, Jakobud doesn't manufacture any cabs people ask him for, he is merely offering to get (and send) dimensions to the cabinets people are asking him for.

I have NEVER seen a post where someone expected payment for offering Jakobud cab dimensions.  It seems to be a gentleman's agreement of "I'll give you the dimensions for free, you offer them to others for the same price".  The idea of HIM paying anything seems outrageous, given the idea I mentioned above.  

Regarding "stincles", I looked the word up (that's what I do when I don't understand something), and it's not even a word.  Therefore, "WTF is a stincle".  It's the kind of thing you say when assembling a million piece project and the directions tell you "insert bolt A into nut 002584" and they never includ nut 002584 i.e. "WTF, where is nut 002584"

In the future, I promise to choose my words more carefully if you promise to spell-check   equally as carefully.

I still stand by my original position.  No matter HOW cheap it is to send the stencils, the end result is that Jakobud would then have to recoup that money spent by selling those stencils, and I can hardly believe that there's a booming market for stencils.  I'd be willing to bet he'd eat a good chunk of the money spent to get those stencils.  What he's offering are exact dimensions for a cabinet.  He's not offering stencils so someone can make hundreds of thousands of Defender cabinets.

It is my hope that you realize I wish no offense to you.  I merely am posting an opinion regarding an offer requiring payment to a respected member of this board who offers that service for free to us, and genuine puzzlement at something not even Webster's can define.  

[lostboy4480]

Does anyone have any access to a sit down racer, single or double that they could sketch out some rough plans for.  I would be willing to transfer there sketches into AutoCAD and submit them to Jakobud.

BTW Thanks to Jakobud for providing this great resource for us all + big thanks to all the members that have helped him out with dimentions etc..

[mnm1200]

Any one have a "Killer Instinct" cab that'd be willing to share some dimensions?

[Jakobud]

Just an update for everyone, I am currently in the process of redrawing all my plans in more detail and making them more freely and widely available by using more common file formats that are high res.  I will let you all know when I've redone them all.  I'm a little swamped with real world stuff at the moment.

[planetjay]

I thought I had posted this. After reading through the thread again I found I haven't.

Track And Field Cocktail pictures and measured drawing in English and Metric is Here.

Also thanks to Jakobud for the Robotron Cocktail Drawing. Some ideas from it have been incorporated into my upcoming Cocktail Project.

[microwrx]

I am after dimensions for the Australian/UK style Space Invaders cocktail like the one in the link below. I hope someone can help.  I am after this exact style, with the two tiered cabinet shape. This is a pic of the back (P2) of the machine obviously.

http://www.saberknights.com/members/jj/invaders.jpg


thanks
JJ

[Jakobud]

I am after dimensions for the Australian/UK style Space Invaders cocktail like the one in the link below. I hope someone can help.  I am after this exact style, with the two tiered cabinet shape. This is a pic of the back (P2) of the machine obviously.

http://www.saberknights.com/members/jj/invaders.jpg


thanks
JJ

Shouldn't be too hard for me to track down someone on this board with that style of cocktail.

[lancelet]

I'm sorry for being lazy and not reading all six pages, but I read most of them.

I would be more than happy to help anyone undertaking such a project.  But I need a quick clarification that has probably been answered somewhere on this thread.

It seems some people are offering pics+measurements.  Is that OK?  Here's the cabs that I have to be measured.  Keep in mind this is a barn find and most are conversions, so if we are talking tape measure and digital camera I can handle that.  Or if the following list contains enough cabs that people need dimensions to I'll read up on Autocad and do my best.
Here are the cabs I believe I can measure accurately (most were exposed to the elements for several years and have bad bottoms so this is an incomplete list-plus I can't name all the cabs.
Super Pac Man
 I have 3 of these cabs but I think I only have one back, maybe none.
 Stern cab
  I have two-no backs again.  These are conversions so I don't know what they were originally.  I have been told they are a common Stern cab used by Frenzy, Turtles, etc.. Here is a pic of what one looks like-mine have the "Stern" logo down the side like the one in that link.
Bubbles?
This is a Williams cab that currently houses Yie-Ar Kung Fu.  The bottom is rough on one side so measurements might be hard, I don't know yet because I've never tried.
Centipede
Again the bottom is rough.  Currently has a Wrestling game.  But the CP is a lightly converted Centipede CP if those measurements are needed.
Pole Position UR
Empty cab but I believe I have both parts to the back.  
Game Plan
Currently houses a Mr Do's Castle.  Say's it was made in 1981 in IL.
Gorf
No CP, but otherwise in good shape for measuring.
Zaxxon/Congo Bongo
I have two.  These cabs are made of particle board and aren't worth restoring, but between the two I can get measurements.  Both are complete, lumberwise.  Lots of doors and angles on these cabs.
Universal Cab
This is exactly what I have.  Universal made a lot of conversions and this seems to be their most common cab.  Awesome design.  Two-piece back, all complete.
I have others that I either cannnot think of or haven't yet ID'ed.

LMK if I can help.

-Erik

[lancelet]

OK, I just read the entire post.  So I need to get the best measurements and drawings as possible.
And two more cabs I thought off:
Joust
Moon Cresta (I'm 85% sure it is)

[macattack]

Almost done, thought i would post a pic of my latest adventure.  DK based on Jakobud's plans.

up next Popeye (cause i got the bezel etc).

nice work on the plans Jakobud ( couple of dimensions missing that we need to include in your plans). will email you shortly.

gotta get you those plans for the 6 player xmen!

btw, anyone got a template for the speaker grill?

or a Nintendo coin door in the uk?

[Jakobud]

WOW mac, I am super stoked that you used my plans to make something that turned out so good!  Looks totally genuine! I have some information on the speaker grill pattern btw.  I will email you shortly about it.

And I will get those XMen plans soon too.