Author Topic: j pac + kick harness (Read 3707 times)

rapomstage3 · « **on:** August 01, 2011, 08:25:18 am »

This has been covered but never fully answered far enough to assist me. Where can i buy..or buy the parts to build a kick harness adapter that i can use with a j pac? I dont want to cut into original wiring. Iv'e heard fingerboards thrown out there..To me it looks like some kind of circuit board and foreign. Basically i want to plug into something..Then take the loose wires coming out the other end and screw them to the j pac terminals. Where do i get that. And who can build it for me if it takes soldering? Its an Mk4 cab.

BobA · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:03:49 pm »

You need the molex header to connect to your molex connector on the kick harness. The extra button wires can be soldered to the header and connected to your jpac. I think it is a 12 pin but have seen pictures where the connector was numbered 1 to 15. You would have to count the number to pins you need. Soldering is not all that hard and you will probably have to do it for other connectors.

Molex header

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:59:20 pm »

Would it just be the easiest if i buy another kick harness and cut that one up? I literally understand nothing about that link.Its not that i dont want to learn ..but im a hands on kind of guy and ill order all the wrong stuff if not told exactly what to buy. Im 2 weeks away from getting the j pac and arcade vga and want to avoid the disappointment of not being able to set it up immediately. I believe it's 15 not 12 from what Ive seen BTW.Thank you

BobA · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2011, 06:39:39 pm »

If you don't want to use the original kick harness then you don't need a kick harness to replace it to connect to the jpac. All you need is crimp on connectors for the switches and wires to go to you jpac terminals. I spec'd the headers because you wanted to keep the original kick harness in place.

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:15:52 pm »

Quote from: BobA on August 01, 2011, 06:39:39 pm

If you don't want to use the original kick harness then you don't need a kick harness to replace it to connect to the jpac. All you need is crimp on connectors for the switches and wires to go to you jpac terminals. I spec'd the headers because you wanted to keep the original kick harness in place.

I would do that but honestly i just don't get it. Could i double wire the buttons? for instance wire from the j pac just like you said but don't move the kick harness? So i would solder the wires into the header..then clip the header to the kick harness? Is that right? I cant find the 15 pin one that i need. Is that the only component or is there other housings and things that i need?

Nephasth · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:25:34 pm »

Your kick harness connector would plug right into that Molex header. You would need to solder wires to the back of that header to go to the jpac. That would be the best way while keeping the kick harness intact. Personally, I would cut the kick harness close to the connector and install mating Molex connectors in the harness. That way you could unplug the factory kick harness connector and plug in a new harness end that connects to the jpac and keep the original for if/when you convert it back.

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:21:56 pm »

Quote from: Nephasth on August 01, 2011, 07:25:34 pm

Your kick harness connector would plug right into that Molex header. You would need to solder wires to the back of that header to go to the jpac. That would be the best way while keeping the kick harness intact. Personally, I would cut the kick harness close to the connector and install mating Molex connectors in the harness. That way you could unplug the factory kick harness connector and plug in a new harness end that connects to the jpac and keep the original for if/when you convert it back.

I don't get this but i want to. what is a mating molex connector? Which one of these scenarios would work best for a multi jamma..one of the jammas being mame. In the future i mean. baby steps. So what do i buy and from where? I really do appreciate this help guys.Or is anyone interested in putting this together? ill pay you of course.

Nephasth · « **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:33:33 pm »

If you want to send your kick harness to me, I can install the connector I was talking about.

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2011, 09:39:22 pm »

That is awesome.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:30:12 am »

Since Kick is an MCR game, everything is on header connectors. Wide spaced for the pwr (the long red one), and narrow spaced for everything else. Its kind of a hassle to convert this over for use with anything else. You can't run a PC off the Midway linear supply. I would just start over and do it all from scratch. Besides, if you don't wanna ruin the original control panel, there's really nothing that you can play other than Kick with that ctrl panel layout. What exactly are you trying to do here?

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2011, 12:28:17 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 10:30:12 am

Since Kick is an MCR game, everything is on header connectors. Wide spaced for the pwr (the long red one), and narrow spaced for everything else. Its kind of a hassle to convert this over for use with anything else. You can't run a PC off the Midway linear supply. I would just start over and do it all from scratch. Besides, if you don't wanna ruin the original control panel, there's really nothing that you can play other than Kick with that ctrl panel layout. What exactly are you trying to do here?

I made a new cp. check it out. I dont get why your saying i cant put a pc in this cabinet. My pc plugs into the wall. I didnt plan on using the happ supply that i have. The original supply died.I most certainly wont be starting from scratch.Whats an mcr game?What im trying to do is be able to easily convert back to a dedicated mk 4 machine if i need to someday.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:19:36 pm »

Holy hell man.....learn how to properly word your questions. Kick is a game from the early 80s.
http://www.jeffsgames.com/images/arcade/games/kick/kickdone.jpg

You never mentioned *anything* about MK.

BobA · « **Reply #12 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:27:22 pm »

In the first post the OP said "Its an Mk4 cab"

Nephasth · « **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:40:23 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 05:19:36 pm

Holy hell man.....learn how to properly word your questions. Kick is a game from the early 80s.
http://www.jeffsgames.com/images/arcade/games/kick/kickdone.jpg

You never mentioned *anything* about MK.

Holy hell, you've never heard of a kick harness? BobA and I didn't have any problem understanding what he was talking about...

opt2not · « **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:43:33 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 05:19:36 pm

Holy hell man.....learn how to properly word your questions. Kick is a game from the early 80s.
http://www.jeffsgames.com/images/arcade/games/kick/kickdone.jpg

You never mentioned *anything* about MK.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick_harness

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2011, 05:48:58 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 05:19:36 pm

Holy hell man.....learn how to properly word your questions. Kick is a game from the early 80s.
http://www.jeffsgames.com/images/arcade/games/kick/kickdone.jpg

You never mentioned *anything* about MK.

So should i edit the title to say j pac + kick harness (not the game kick, but the harness for extra buttons on a jamma cabinet that 99% of the people on here have heard of and understand)..Because i think that's kind of a long title.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2011, 06:41:39 pm »

I musta glossed over that. Anyway....to me, having been involved in the arcade industry for over 20 years...."kick harness" means the wiring harness to a dedicated Kick game. I've never heard that term applied to anything else. A more accurate term would be auxiliary harness. Like the add-ons they did with the jamma setup for the SF games that didn't have enough available wires on a regular Jamma harness to deal with the extra buttons it used.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2011, 06:47:08 pm »

Quote from: Nephasth on August 02, 2011, 05:40:23 pm

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 05:19:36 pm
Holy hell man.....learn how to properly word your questions. Kick is a game from the early 80s.
http://www.jeffsgames.com/images/arcade/games/kick/kickdone.jpg

You never mentioned *anything* about MK.

Holy hell, you've never heard of a kick harness? BobA and I didn't have any problem understanding what he was talking about...

I don't give a fat rat's ass about fighting games. Hence the confusion....

Nephasth · « **Reply #18 on:** August 02, 2011, 06:54:14 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 06:47:08 pm

I don't give a fat rat's ass about fighting games.

Quote from: BobA on August 02, 2011, 05:27:22 pm

In the first post the OP said "Its an Mk4 cab"

Apparently reading entire posts either...

boardjunkie · « **Reply #19 on:** August 02, 2011, 07:11:36 pm »

That was the *very last* word in the post. I didn't read it that far 'cause I thought I already knew what he was getting at.

I'm not a "fighting game kid"....sue me....

opt2not · « **Reply #20 on:** August 02, 2011, 08:17:03 pm »

Quote from: boardjunkie on August 02, 2011, 06:41:39 pm

I musta glossed over that. Anyway....to me, having been involved in the arcade industry for over 20 years...."kick harness" means the wiring harness to a dedicated Kick game. I've never heard that term applied to anything else. A more accurate term would be auxiliary harness. Like the add-ons they did with the jamma setup for the SF games that didn't have enough available wires on a regular Jamma harness to deal with the extra buttons it used.

Perhaps you glossed over the 1990's too.

You may not be a "fighting games kid", but having been involved in the industry for 20+ years like you say, undoubtedly you've must have come across a few nicknames for an auxiliary harness. Kick harness, Jamma plus harness, Extra button harness, these are the terms most people use today. Prior to the 90's, sure, Kick Harness meant the harness for the game - Kick.

@rapomstage3
You can easily find them on ebay for cheap. Just do a search for "Kick harness" and you'll find about 10 or so listings. jammaboards.com, as well as bob roberts also have them. They're easy to make yourself, but if you're not confident with cutting/crimping wires then paying $15 or so for a pro-built one isn't a bad idea.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #21 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:47:32 pm »

JAMMA plus I've heard of. Just never "kick harness". New to me and I've build a bazillion fighting games. But....I never had to read the manuals either. Once you've built one, you just go and do it.....

Savannan · « **Reply #22 on:** August 03, 2011, 09:39:02 am »

http://www.jammaboards.com/store/mortal-kombat-killer-instinct-harness/prod_67.html?ccSID285e73f64c04744fc5f33ff68f529742=b61386a7cec2c0dec04ced61ad236af8

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:29:27 am »

Quote from: Savannan on August 03, 2011, 09:39:02 am

http://www.jammaboards.com/store/mortal-kombat-killer-instinct-harness/prod_67.html?ccSID285e73f64c04744fc5f33ff68f529742=b61386a7cec2c0dec04ced61ad236af8
Does anyone actually read the first post before posting some useless google link. I dont need a kick harness you dummy! someone is helping me out already with what I need .like I couldn't find the most popular kick harness on the planet.

boardjunkie · « **Reply #24 on:** August 03, 2011, 11:12:08 am »

Dial back the Monster intake there Scooter.....

rapomstage3 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 03, 2011, 12:44:57 pm »

No offense meant.just a little rough around the edges.


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