Slim Cab with 4 CP - Top Heavy?

[Dr. Willy]

Opinions on this? I dont really have room for a full size cab. Was going to build kneveils woody cab, but will putting a 4 player cp on it make it topple over?

[Donkbaca]

Depends on how cramped you make it.  It wouldn't be top heavy at all, it would just look weird.

Having just built a slim cab, I wouldn't recommend it.  What kind of screen are you using on it?

[Dr. Willy]

28" 16:10 ratio aspect lcd

[Donkbaca]

What viewing angles on the monitor? That is a pretty big monitor for a slim cab

[Dr. Willy]

on the particular montior i am looking at its 170 degrees horizonally and 160 degrees vertically, but this will be a horizonal mount.

[Corbo]

Could you put some brackets on and fix it to the wall if you're worried?

[TopJimmyCooks]

Make it wide, obviously, for the monitor and to keep the cp in proportion.  Remember your cp may want to be pretty deep p3 and p4 can get a good viewing distance to the opposite end of the display.  Go for at least evo depth (woody plus 4-5" of depth)  Put the pc down in the bottom of the cab, and as much other weight low as possible.  Gently test with four players yanking all at the same time.  Use levelers or a fixed wood base rather than any castors.    If it's still tippy, make a tether to the top back of the cab attached to a stud with a lag screw or something as insurance.  the leash works better than a bracket because you can still move it around a bit and won't transfer vibrations to the house walls. 

If your 3 buddies aren't total apes you should be ok.  If you're worried about it or relying on the tether it won't be fun to play.

[Dr. Willy]

Thanks for the advice i really wanted to build an Eco but can't find any plans for it did kneviel ever release them? I emailed him last night but no reply yet

[TopJimmyCooks]

There is a good sketchup file of a woody that I used for a starting point. 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/208302/RoundedWoody-NoCP.skp

Dimensionally this model is a woody but it has the evo detailing (arms under the keyboard instead of the angled/sloped front edges, some other minor changes)
This was done by EvilNuff on the forum.  Basically, if you select the whole back of the cab and pull it out 4" you have an Evo. 

Let me know if you need a sketchup of it, deepened, widened etc.  I love sketchup. 

[Donkbaca]

My slim is 25 1/2 inches wide by 16 inches deep at the base.  I think a large 4p cp would just sort of ruin the look of it.  But sketch one up and check your dimensions.  My advice would be to make the marquee area larger, that way you have less top and bottom bezel

[Dr. Willy]

topjimmycooks if you would do a sketchup that would be awsome, im not good with programs like that. IF you want to get crazy, throw a 4 player cp on there to see how it looks, im very interested to see. Im going to try and replicate the evoution from the info i am finding in random threads.

[TopJimmyCooks]

what's the out to out measurement on the case of the display?  I can take a look at it tomorrow during lunch.

[Dr. Willy]

from what i am finding on the site the diminsions of the monitor are 25.7x20.7 Here is a link to said monitor.

http://www.hannsg.com/US/EN/Products/LCD%20Monitors/Common.aspx?productId=204

Thanks again

[TopJimmyCooks]

Ok, here you go, stretched to 27" inside the sides to fit your display.  The CP is 40" wide, check with the guys with 4P to see if this is wide enough.  Cab overall is 28 1/2" by 20" at the base. 



Disclaimer, this cab was nicely sketched by Evilnuff and I very quickly went in , exploded everything and pulled it in to shape.  So it's no longer suitable for looking at individual construction components, cutlisting, etc.  Any sketchup lameness is mine alone.  If you like this and proceed I will make sure you can get a cleaner version done.

I think it looks good.  That display is huge- obviously it will have some bezel.  In the sketch the out to out of the display is shown by translucent gray. 

Looks like the .skp file won't send, it's not one of the allowed file types to attach.  PM me and I'll email it to you.

[Donkbaca]

I would make the marquee area taller, otherwise you are looking at a lot of top/bottom bezel

[TopJimmyCooks]

Since the monitor is 26" there isn't going to be a heck of a lot of bezel on the sides, but there will be some top and bottom. That 21" has to include a stand or something, since it's 16:9 aspect.  Another advantage for the evo depth is you could lean the display back as far as you want.  I would lean it back to 15 degrees, maybe 18,and then i would make the marquee taller by lowering the bottom of it 1 1/2" or so for better proportions.

[Donkbaca]

I was inspired by the woody in my build,  I am using a 4:3 21.4 inch screen, worked out pretty well bezel wise.  The problem with wise screens, htough, is the big top and bottom bezels.  To compensate, I would make the admin panel right below the screen a little larger, and bring the marquee down a few inches.  The marquee area is, what 6 inches high?  Make it 9 or nine, that will eat up a few more inches of bezel.  It will look weird with no bezel on the sides and 6 inch bezels on the top and bottom.

40 inches will be cramped.  I think my panel is 34 inches wide or something like that...

[TopJimmyCooks]

Yeah, I'm 26" to 37" depending on what swap panel is in, but always 2p only, and I feel that 40" would be tight for 4p.  If you added 2" to each end of the cp and maybe made the cab 30" instead of 27 you would have 46" or so.  And it would help make the bezel more proportional.

I don't have a good feel for sizing for 4p.  I wouldn't finalize any dims until that was settled. 

[Donkbaca]

Yeah, but once you get out to that territory, you are looking at a CP that is around 4 feet wide, which kind of goes against the whole idea of a small foot print slim...

[Dr. Willy]

I dont think that cab looks bad at all. I am compteplating going with 2p cp vs a 4p cp im not sure i will utilize a 4p cp enough to justify having one. I do think i want to stick with that display though, there is just something about having a gaint montior in your face while play lol. Thanks for the sketchup. What is the biggest monitor i could get with the woody/evo at standard width.

[Donkbaca]

Personally?  Don't go 4player.  Here is what I would do.  Build a nice, slim 2p.  Get 2 of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Tekken-Limited-Wireless-Bundle-Xbox-360/dp/B002ED4DQI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308169073&sr=8-3

and one of these:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/XBox-360-Wireless-Receiver-adapter-PC-/280696505068?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item415ad0c2ec#ht_742wt_1112


Then whenever you want to play 4 players, just turn on the 2 wireless.  I think the only time a 4p cp is worth it is if you know for sure you will have lots of friends over on a regular basis that all want to play the same 4p game. The only reason I would build a 4p is if I had kids and wanted to play with them, or have them and their buddies play

Of course, I am biased, because I am basically suggesting you do what I did.


The woody has a 19 inch 4:3 monitor, I believe the internal width on it is 22 inches.  If you look at my sig and look at my project, I have a 21.3 inch 4:3 and the internal width of my cab is 24 inches