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Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« on: May 30, 2011, 09:48:51 pm »
So am in need of any advice on how to go about building a Mini EDOT mame cab..
Am thinking Bar top size. It really is just a DOT with the extra sounds and also TRON.

As of now I would like to just collect and build the control panel so I can see what software I life for the mame.
Making it a mirrored display like the real one would be ideal.
as of now I have a Kensington Track ball that has left right mouse buttons and a scroll ring..just figure out if I can map that to be the spinner is a challenge. Totally lost..go it to be the spinner but the left button is doing the firing and the right button drops the aim down only..ball spins so I know am close but am not sure what to adjust in mame.
Been using the arrow keys for the joystick movement. Have not figured out where the deflect button is on the keyboard or how to map it to a keyboard button.

Would getting the TT2 solve the issues with the spinner?
I have a DOT joystick without the deflect button but that should just be an add correct?

After I figure out the controls I hope its just a matter of building the cab and setting up the computer in its new home.

as of now am using win 7 ultimate
latest mame
Front end is MAMEUIFX32

any pointer would be great maybe I will make a fullsize edot if I see its possible
thanks
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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 07:33:52 am »
For a dedicated DOT, you'll want a push/pull spinner.  A TT2 isn't what you want.

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 07:58:53 am »
Am kinda curious how a bartop EDOT would work.

Can only action figures play in it ?
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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 09:56:05 am »
Am kinda curious how a bartop EDOT would work.

Can only action figures play in it ?

Maybe you just stick  your head in it?

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 10:08:12 am »
Am kinda curious how a bartop EDOT would work.

Can only action figures play in it ?

Maybe you just stick  your head in it?
Just the tip?

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 10:29:35 am »
Maybe you wear it like a helmet?  ;D


In seriousness, a mini EDOT it could be done if you had it open on a hinge or break in two or something.
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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 12:36:20 pm »
Maybe it's just for gamer-Hobbits?

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 11:18:18 pm »
Will you be playing Tron also or Just DOT, the joystick is different and not just the buttons if you use a DOT joystick you have and try to play TRON it will be out of control in the light cycle stage. For spinner you need an Apache Push/Pull search in google $120 :dunno

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 04:08:36 pm »
so am wondering is it possible to us the mame spinner for DOT on a real DOT..would the spinner board from TRON work with it?

Trying to make both

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 12:19:35 pm »
Couple questions/comments

What is a "Mame spinner"? any arcade spinner can be made to use with Mame, but you will need a "Push Pull spinner for the later levels of DOT
you have two options here The Apache spinner and Groovy Game Gear's Push pull spinner
Either push pull spinner is compatible with Tron

The problem with what your trying to do is the Joystick (as mytymaus007 stated)
Tron has a very odd joystick that is unique to that game and it's game play
Basically it's an 8 way joystick with a 4-way physical restrictor which makes the diagonals hard to hit, so the light cycles and tank stages play like a 4-way and the cone and grid bugs play like 8-way
You can play DOT with a Tron joystick but it is not very good, but you cannot play Tron effectively with a DOT joystick

The only way I can see doing what you want is to hack a U360 (an analog joystick that can load custom maps) onto a DOT(8-way trrigerstick) joystick and set up the appropriate map for playing Tron... but the feel would be a little off due to the lack of physical restriction, but would definitely be playable

here is a link to an 8-way triggerstick(DOT)/U360 hack
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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 01:23:27 pm »
all the spinners I see are for MAME type set ups. I have not found any place that sale DOT arcade spinners with a arcade card ready to go. So I guess another question is can the TRON spinner card be used for the DOT? And or does anyone make an aftermarket DOT spinner card.

thanks for the link on the joystick. I already have a real DOT joystick..
am going to build both a mame version and an arcade version so need both at one point.
The mame version might just have DOT but maybe with some mods and custom mapping it can have TRON too.

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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 04:22:06 pm »
Correct me if I am wrong here, but a spinner for DOT doesn't need to be of the same quality as say a Tempest Spinner if you are making your own up.

DOT is more about aiming so you do not need a specialist spinner - any mouse hack spinner will do as long as you make the shaft of the spinner have contacts at both ends with a decent dual spring to get the same effect.

How difficult would it be to design such a device realizing that high spin rotation is not required?

You must be saving some $$$ in the process.
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Re: Mini Environmental Discs of TRON cab build
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 01:35:24 am »
When you get to variable-level levels in Discs of Tron, the up-down firing ability is sorely missed. Plus, why pass up the option to be able to bounce your disc off the ceiling!
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