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Midway Plastic Trigger Joystick Handles
« on: May 07, 2011, 07:07:34 pm »
Can someone tell me if the plastic Gorf joystick handles are exactly the same as the notoriously flimsy Tron and Satan's Hollow handles?

I'm thinking of keeping my eyes open for an extra Gorf handle to mount to a Satan's Hollow assembly. (But I may make one from scratch if I can settle on the right material).

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Re: Midway Plastic Trigger Joystick Handles
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 08:36:49 pm »
I believe they are the same handles. I've see Tron's with the black handles.


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Re: Midway Plastic Trigger Joystick Handles
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2011, 09:01:44 pm »
Can someone tell me if the plastic Gorf joystick handles are exactly the same as the notoriously flimsy Tron and Satan's Hollow handles?

I'm thinking of keeping my eyes open for an extra Gorf handle to mount to a Satan's Hollow assembly. (But I may make one from scratch if I can settle on the right material).

You don't need to get the black one to get durability.  The material the original parts were made from was indeed brittle, which is why they are found cracked so often.  Polymer tech has come a loooong way in the nearly 30 years since, and the material used in the Satan's Hollow handles we had made is much tougher.  But if you want black, that's cool too.  Just don't want you to think that you can't have the nice UV reactive red one, and still have it hold up as well a black one.

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Re: Midway Plastic Trigger Joystick Handles
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2011, 09:27:38 pm »
Can someone tell me if the plastic Gorf joystick handles are exactly the same as the notoriously flimsy Tron and Satan's Hollow handles?

I'm thinking of keeping my eyes open for an extra Gorf handle to mount to a Satan's Hollow assembly. (But I may make one from scratch if I can settle on the right material).

You don't need to get the black one to get durability.  The material the original parts were made from was indeed brittle, which is why they are found cracked so often.  Polymer tech has come a loooong way in the nearly 30 years since, and the material used in the Satan's Hollow handles we had made is much tougher.  But if you want black, that's cool too.  Just don't want you to think that you can't have the nice UV reactive red one, and still have it hold up as well a black one.


???

But I thought that your handles were exactly the same as what was produced originally, since it seems you convey that the same materials were used to make them.

This item is not a copy, reproduction or replica. It's the real deal. The actual materials and injection molds were used. The original color chip was even unearthed and meticulously matched. And, as you can see from the photo, it glows like crazy next to a black light. This is the first time anyone has seen a part like this fresh from production for over 20 years!

Wouldn't it be a good idea to mention that your handles are more durable than the original ones, as a selling point?

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Re: Midway Plastic Trigger Joystick Handles
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011, 11:05:07 pm »
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But I thought that your handles were exactly the same as what was produced originally, since it seems you convey that the same materials were used to make them.

There are different formulations of the same type of plastic.  The formulation used 30 years ago was very likely discarded in favor of what still remains material of the same name.  When I say the actual materials, I mean to convey that it is not something like acrylic or poured castable materials, but the same material type which was originally used.  As these materials have advanced, it would be impossible to use the inferior stuff from 30 years ago, nor would one want to.

Honestly, with the prior situation being that it was nearly impossible to buy even the old brittle NOS ones for less than $150 a set, it didn't occur to me that folks would be questioning the durability of a picture perfect new set with a trigger for $24.95 :).  But you are right.  I probably should draw attention to the fact that the materials no longer suffer from the issues that caused so many of the originals to suffer the damage they did.  It's also worth mentioning that the very early parts had no gussets around the screw holes.  When those original parts quickly started showing stress cracks in those areas, the gussets were added to the mold.  The new runs obviously have this improvement as well, as they are from the same mold.