Is it possible - mame cab and jukebox?

[notroubleclubber]

I have a mame cab that I have built from a generic cab in the UK. It's running a pentium 4 3.2ghz and 2gb ram. It's running a 512mb ati radeon card (this has dual dvi outputs) into a 21" CRT pc monitor. It's running win xp with maximus frontend.
I'm very happy with it as a mame cab but I have been hankering for a touchsceen jukebox build.
Due to cost, space and my lack of carpentry skills I've decided to make a combined touchscreen jukebox / mame cab with my existing cab.
My Plan is to cut a hole in the side of my cab and mount the 15" touchsceen in the side of the existing cab ( the touchscreen is thin LCD) and use my existing pc and 2.1 speaker system to run both the mame cab and the touchscreen jukebox.
My question is:
Would it be possible to setthis cab up with one output going to the CRT for gaming and maximus and have the other output on the card going to my touchscreen but also have the touchscreen only display etouch or something and vice versa for the gaming CRT.
I've never ran a dual tv setup so not sure what's possible?
I'm not too worried if the jukebox software can't run at the same time but it would be nice if it did.
And it must be easy to use for the wife!!!
I may also incorporate the touchscreen quiz games if I knew how ( like millionaire what you see in pubs in the uk)
Could I set this up so the t

[notroubleclubber]

any ideas?

[yotsuya]

As long as your video card supports two outputs, I'm sure it could be done. I'd test it out before I cut any holes, though! 

Also, what's the shape of your cab?

[whines]

If both apps want to run in full screen mode, this will not work. The'll have to tolerate windowed mode, and you'll have to tolerate them being in windowed mode.

'Full screen' will take over the primary monitor. Only one can be primary.

Hook a spare monitor up to your PC and experiment before spending money on a touchscreen.

[notroubleclubber]

already spent!!!
However if it wont work the way i want it then i will attempt a jukebox build.

[yotsuya]

If space is an issue, look at plans for wall-mounted jukeboxes. That's the route I'm currently taking.

[yotsuya]

I just saw this video on YouTube and thought about this thread. Maybe this might work for you?

[notroubleclubber]

Thanks for the link but the cab was a bit too cheesy for me!

[yotsuya]

That's what I thought, too, but it IS a space saver!

[HanoiBoi]

I'm guessing its been considered, but...you could put an additional pc in the cab dedicated to run the juke.  You'd essentially have the same, if not better, results.  I know cost is a factor, but you don't need a crazy system to run the juke.  I use an old laptop with an external 400gb hard drive.

As far as something easy for your wife, start loading and playing with jukebox software.  It could take a while to find the one you like.  I ended up with Album Player and I've been very happy with it.

Oh, and my opinion would be to not put the jukebox in the mame cab.  It's something that you might later regret. 

[notroubleclubber]

I was thinking that id be left with a big hole in the side of my cab if i decide to move the juke.

I think im gonna be better off getting a cheap pc and big hard drive and doing a seperate build - i was just hoping to save on the parts of another pc and speakers.
Programming wise i know tis will be alot easier.

[ark_ader]

You could put in an original Xbox with a modded XBMC.

XBMC for the Xbox1 is mouse friendly, and you can save some cash.

stick this on your monitor and off you go.  I'd say $100 all in.

I wouldn't bother with the disco lights though....

[notroubleclubber]

I can get a modded xbox 1 for next to nothing.Ive already got a touchscreen (15") so dont need anything else.
Does anyone use xbmc on xbox and touchscreen and does it work? The touchscreen has a usb or serial connection to pc so how would this connect to an xbox?

[ark_ader]

I get cheap USB hubs at my local crap shop for a few pennies.  Just get an old controller disconnect and rewire it and stick the usb hub under the Xbox. 

Or you can hard wire it to one of the joypad ports like port 4.  Then hook up your touch screen.  The time to get this working will be minimal, the only issue you will have will be how you want the screen layout.  But that is completely up to you.

I use CoinOPS for Mame and I launch it from XBMC so you can have a Juke/Arcade setup.   

Its so hard to believe today that such a cheap and quiet device can be so flexible compared with a $1000 media system.

[ed12]

u can spend the 125.00 to get the lcd :touch-screen: overlay from happ controls
just look up elo and trace there dist.,happ show's up
overlay the mame,then install vrockola,find that in our file's section
and u have a complete touch video-juke-game-machine
with vrockola all u need to do is have a hard-drive or a cd-rom to :point: it to
use burn's of your cd's so that native win10x will see them ,and give u there skins
plus then u can game in the foreground,and juke in the back ground
mine i install a seround sound amp system
they sound sweet

ed

[BobA]

An original xbox is a great media server or mame box but you cannot run the driver for the touchscreen on the xbox so it will probably not work even thou you can connect via modified usb.

[ed12]

lcd is usb2 overlay,make sure your mob will handle multi usb input's
will work fine with megatouch bartop machines,no resource hound's involved

ed

[ark_ader]

An original xbox is a great media server or mame box but you cannot run the driver for the touchscreen on the xbox so it will probably not work even thou you can connect via modified usb.

Sorry mate but you are wrong.

If you have a touch screen film, that is compatible with a USB mouse (I have a trashed EEEPC that has one) it just plugs in and is detected by XBMC.  I'm not sure about custom touch screens, but the one I linked works like a mouse.

I would suggest that you do some research before making such comments, as it is very unhelpful if someone is making a project on the cheap.  The only problem I saw in getting to work was getting the screen configured for a 7" work area.

I connect to the XBMC via my android and WiFI.  If I was going to do something like this I would skip the touchscreen affair and look at getting a cheap tablet.  That way you can use the tablet for home use and then dock it to your cab and use the XBMC app.

There is a new android app out that runs an app on charge event, so when you dock the tablet it will go into XBMC automatically and use it as a juke function.  I tried to make a pic of this but it is too dark. You can pick up that Apad for $99 so it would be a better option.

[BobA]

I have tried it on an xbox and it DOES NOT WORK as I am talking about an ELO driver that is needed for an ELO touchscreen not an addon film screen.  You are talking PC usage where my original post was directed at the usage on the original xbox.  A trashed eepc can load a touchscreen driver but the xbox cannot.  Anyway since the OP already has a 15 inch touchscreen we would need to know if it acts as a mouse or needs a specific driver for the touchscreen to use it with an xbox.
 
I see you made comments on both PC and xbox usage of an add on film screen working adn that will work if the screen the OP has one of those add on screens.

[ark_ader]

I have tried it on an xbox and it DOES NOT WORK as I am talking about an ELO driver that is needed for an ELO touchscreen not an addon film screen.  You are talking PC usage where my original post was directed at the usage on the original xbox.  A trashed eepc can load a touchscreen driver but the xbox cannot.  Anyway since the OP already has a 15 inch touchscreen we would need to know if it acts as a mouse or needs a specific driver for the touchscreen to use it with an xbox.

Am I discussing a ELO touchscreen?

Have I linked to a ELO Touchscreen?

No.  The Xbox XBMC loads in a driver for use with a USB mouse, which is compatible with the linked touch screen.

I dunno BobA, maybe you are trying to be helpful, but it is missing the mark. 

[BobA]

No I just said it does not work for elo since he already has a 15 inch screen and elo is the most common around.

[BobA]

Maybe the OP can specify what touchscreen he has so we can get on with helping not guessing.

[notroubleclubber]

Guys - dont start an argument!!!

The guy on ebay selling the screen says it uses ELO drivers though i dont think its an ELO screen.
Also, it looks like from the picture that it may only be serial connection though i could be wrong - i wont know until it arrives.

[BobA]

Thanks for the clarification.   Touchscreens use USB or Serial connections.   If it only has serial then you definately will not be able to get it to work with the xbox.   If it has USB we are back to my original caution that an elo driver will not work on an xbox so you would probably be better off with a separate mini itx motherboard.

[ark_ader]

Thanks for the clarification.   Touchscreens use USB or Serial connections.   If it only has serial then you definately will not be able to get it to work with the xbox.   If it has USB we are back to my original caution that an elo driver will not work on an xbox so you would probably be better off with a separate mini itx motherboard.

 

[BobA]

Thanks for the clarification.   Touchscreens use USB or Serial connections.   If it only has serial then you definately will not be able to get it to work with the xbox.   If it has USB we are back to my original caution that an elo driver will not work on an xbox so you would probably be better off with a separate mini itx motherboard.

 

[ark_ader]

Thanks for the clarification.   Touchscreens use USB or Serial connections.   If it only has serial then you definately will not be able to get it to work with the xbox.   If it has USB we are back to my original caution that an elo driver will not work on an xbox so you would probably be better off with a separate mini itx motherboard.