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Author Topic: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?  (Read 1772 times)

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U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« on: March 30, 2011, 01:58:18 pm »
Is there any reason for me to use the pin header harness as output for the four directionals - connected to an Ipac - when I plan to use the USB connection?  Any benefit to the redundancy?  I guess it would just mean not having arrow key keyboard inputs and going joystick only for that stick.

If there's no concern, I'm repurposing my harness to plug into an optiwiz for a trackball connection. 

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 02:25:01 pm »
When the U360 is connected only to the computer via usb it is seen as a gamepad by the computer. When you have the I/O header connected to an I-pac, it is seen as keystrokes, and the usb cable sends the remapping info to the stick. Gotta love options! You don't need the usb connection if you don't use the remapping feature and it is hooked up to an I-pac.
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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 02:46:13 pm »
I'm going USB only for now.  I can always fork the $12 plus shipping for the header harness if I need the keyboard input later, but hopefully not! 

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Those inputs on the ipac will be available later since I will run a separate dedicated 4 way for P1 as well. 

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 03:21:31 pm »
Well you also get the benefit of 16 buttons INPUTS if used in the reverse orientation...but maybe you are already have that covered...

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 04:08:58 pm »
Are you having a seperate dedicated 4-way just for the authentic mechanical restriction? I ask because it seems strange to spend the money on U360s, not use I/O feature, and have a seperate 4-way when the U360 can be mapped as a 4-way.

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 06:10:13 pm »
It's basically a Knievel clone cp with a mechanically restricted 4 way.  Believe it or not it's increasing the WAF.   She wants ms pac man. 

Vanilla- inputs are covered by ipac but i did use the button inputs on my first mock up CP.  I just got into a lot of trouble having 2 usb joysticks, plugging, unplugging, joystick number order, etc.  The same issue DrVenture is working on. 

With the Ipac, optiwiz, u360 I will end up with keyboard plus 1 joystick plus 1 mouse in the end. 

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 09:50:51 am »
Why not go with the top mount restrictor for the 360 . Then you can get the 4 way mechanical restriction with just a twist..and mapping

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Re: U360 - do you use the pin harness for output or just USB?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 12:04:14 pm »
I saw that come out, but I was already down the road with a recessed top mount solution.  I am interested in the product but I have two concerns:  first, strange appearance; and second, I have the habit of resting my hand on the top surface of the panel and wrapping my fingers around the joystick, instead of resting palm on top, especially when playing analog stick games. I like to keep that area streamlined - I even have done a lot of PITA work to get dustwashers under the top surface for that reason.

I think that restrictor is going to work great for undermount situations and cut down on the dedicated four/8 ways in the future.