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Author Topic: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?  (Read 4432 times)

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Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« on: March 09, 2011, 11:42:11 am »
Hi,

I have an Omega Race cabinet that is looking less and less likely to be fixable.  I'm considering making a dedicated Vector MAME cabinet out of it.  I'm not seeing any easy ways to get the monitor display to "reverse" such that it reflects into the silvered mirror correctly and displays correctly to the player.  I will be using a standard monitor LCD display on this one, so does anyone know a Windows tool that will make Windows (and therefore my front-end/games) display this way?  Failing this, is there a front-end/MAME setting(s) that achieves this result?

Any ideas for me?

Thanks very much,
Ryan

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 11:57:47 am »
yes, Mala, Maximus, and GameEx to name a few do mirroring as well as MAME
I think quite a few other FE's do mirroring too

though I'm not sure how all that works with a vector monitor

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 12:30:42 pm »
Cool, I'll check into some of those, thanks very much!
Ryan

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 02:28:12 pm »
Alternatively, see if you video card supports mirror-ing through it's software. I know a great deal of Intel based video cards do. There might be something out there that suits your card.

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 07:51:25 pm »
Hmm... are you sure. The so-called "mirror" option is a bit of a misnomer. It's actually a setting meant for dual monitor setups to display the same image across both monitors. Really should be referred to as duplicate instead. Whatever.  I think one of my systems has an Intel based card. I'll double check.

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 08:22:15 pm »
Actually, when I said mirror I was thinking of the rotate function. I don't see mirror in my laptop's options.

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 12:27:30 am »
Yeah, rotating won't work. ƨiʜƚ ɘʞil ǫniʞool ƚxɘƚ ɿuoy ƚnɒw yllɒɿɘƚil uoY If not, you'll just get gibberish.

As near as I can tell, the OP will have to settle for the following:

Use whatever options MAME and any other front ends offer. Windows will just be "reversed".

Use a CRT and switch the wiring inside.

Use UltraMon and take a performance hit.

I would opt for the first or second option.

Linux might have the capability of reversing the video output. The video options are pretty flexible given the heritage, but that would require additional research.

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 12:57:30 am »
Although it's not the "mirrored" solution, it's not the intel software that I was thinking.

Windows 7 has the rotation options natively, but they refer to it as "landscape (flipped)", even though it's just a rotation. I think that's all I was thinking about.

This still won't give your actual flipped image, though... :(

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 05:10:40 am »
I'm sortta trying to figure out something like this for a Pin2k like screen on a digital pin.  I have been told that ATI drivers have an option to flip the image, but I haven't been able to verify that since I really don't like ATI (specifically their drivers).



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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 02:20:48 pm »
Looking in a couple MAMEUI32 versions I have (Wolfmame .106 and MAMEUI32 .128), in the options, you can flip the video vertically and/or horizontally. This should work for a mirrored image (depending on which axis is mirrored. Doing both would basically rotate the screen 180 degrees)

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Re: Displaying Windows/Displaying MAME in mirror image?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2011, 10:25:08 pm »
Yeah, rotating won't work. ƨiʜƚ ɘʞil ǫniʞool ƚxɘƚ ɿuoy ƚnɒw yllɒɿɘƚil uoY If not, you'll just get gibberish.

That's looks like gibberish anyway. The font didn't even change. Funny how reading it upside down is so much easier than backwards.

I wonder, if you set the FE that way, will it effect the emulators?
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