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Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« on: December 31, 2010, 04:16:48 pm »
Hello all,

This is my first time building an an arcade-type machine and my first time posting in this forum.  Moderator, please put this in a more appropriate forum if needed.

I am putting a Golden Tee 2005 Green Board machineand I'm having a problem with the video.  In the attached picture you will see (left to right) power supply, Golden Tee 2005 PCB Green Board with attached PCI Video Card and Super Jamma Harness, Hard Drive,  and MODEL GBS-8220 CGA/EGA/YUV TO VGA CONVERTER.  Out of the picture I have a 32'' LCD TV and a 17" NEC Multisync Computer Monitor. 

I have everything hooked up right, I think  :dunno.....  I've tried:
 - Connecting the 15 pin RGB on the video card to the converter to the LCD TV (VGA) and the same with the monitor
 - Connecting the 15 pin RGB on the video card to the GT PCB and the Super Jamma Harness to the converter (using an 8 pin     
   connector that came with the converter)
Both the TV and monitor get the converter's on screen display and I am able to make adjustments, but after exiting from that the screen just flashes "no signal."

If someone could offer some suggestions or point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!  BT

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 04:32:59 pm »
What video signal are you using.  I see 2 vga connectors on your video converter.   1 to your monitor and the other from where?
I do not see a cable on the attached pci video card so I would need to know what signal you are converting and from where?

Are you sure the arcade board is working and sending out a signal.   If you are converting a signal to VGA why do you have a VGA card on the arcade board.   Are there switches to select what signal your GT board will provide?
« Last Edit: December 31, 2010, 05:18:34 pm by BobA »

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 05:52:42 pm »
The video card has an RGB 15 pin male connector.  When I got the PCB and video card there was a short cable connecting the video card to the PCB (15 pin female connector).  You can see the connectors on the video card and PCB in the lower slightly left side of the picture.  The one on the video card is blue and the one on the PCB is black.  In the picture I don't have these two hooked up with the short cable.

I have tried going directly from the video card (bypassing the PCB and Jamma Harness) to the converter and from the converter to both displays using each of the VGA outputs at different times.  See attached picture 2.

I have also tried connecting the video card to the PCB using the 15 pin connections (blue and black in the picture) and a short cable. In this case I spliced the Jamma video  wires to the 8 pin connector and plugged it into the converter in the 8 pin connector on the converter (the one right next to the single 15 pin input RGB). See attached picture 3.

As for the signal...

While researching for this project I learned that a standard LCD TV would not accept the signal from many arcade setups because it requires a different input frequency.  I assumed this was the case with mine because my TV would not initially work by simply connecting it to the PCB/Vid Card.  That's why I bought the converter.  I am not certain what type of signal I am converting from, but I did see on one of the monitors I tried it with that the output frequency was 15.7.  If anyone knows exactly what type of output this board generates maybe that would help.

Thanks again!  BT

Edit:

Here is the link to the converter manual.  It has a good picture of the converter.  http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/attachment.php?id_attachment=19

BT
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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 08:22:58 pm »
The golden tee should be able to generate a VGA signal from the attached video board.   You are attempting to generate a 15 khz signal via the jamma video connection to your video converter to to provide a 30 khz for a vga monitor.   This should not be required as the GT 2005 can generate a VGA signal without a converter as far as I knlow.

I would read up on it in your manual if you have one.  If you do not there is usually alot of info on the IT site for GT.  The newer boards can do VGA and probably CGA.  Don't know how you select if without a manual.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 09:13:30 pm »
That card you have the VGA unplugged from is the 3Dfx video card for your golden tee. You need that shorty jumper on to feed the motherboard from that.

EDIT to add... I ran that same setup Y+ VGA encoder to test my setup, so I know it will work. You may need to set your GT to standard resolution via jumpers. I couldn't get my VGA encoder to put out a stable medium resolution image.


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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 09:02:20 pm »
Thanks for your replies!

Well, I bought the PCB/Vid Card/HD on Ebay, and they were all supposed to be working... but maybe the board or graphics card is bad?  Is there any way to check this given I can't see anything on the monitor?


Also...  I have a GT 2006 Complete HD coming in the mail.  Does GT2006 Complete use the same PCB?  If the PCB/Vid Card are bad (the one that I already have) and I want to make this work, where is a good place to buy a  Golden Tee compatible PCB/Video Card as a replacement? I don't think I want to buy another one on Ebay.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 10:01:29 pm »
Just the Complete hard drive alone is not going to give you extra courses. It has to be paired with the motherboard.

I have a spare Green board packed away. I don't remember if I have a spare video card or if I swapped it over to my current machine. I'll take a look tomorrow. Did you try just skipping the video encoder and going straight to the monitor?
If the machine is putting out video, your image should change -either showing you a scrambled out of sync picture or giving you an Out Of Range type message.

www.gatorcade.com has a lot of GT parts. Some of his stuff is too expensive, other stuff is reasonable. Might be worth dropping him an email.


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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 01:13:50 am »
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I have a GT 2006 Complete HD coming in the mail.  Does GT2006 Complete use the same PCB?

without a matching security chip, just changing to a 2006 hard drive will not work...even then...

there where 2 boards, the green (which you have there) and a red board.  red board and green board drive are supposedly swapable between each other, but i have had some that wouldn't ??different revisions?? i've also tried swapping red board to red board (security chips and all) and it wouldn't work ??again different revisions??? but the security chips are not interchangeable. green and red are different.

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Re: Golden Tee 2005 Problem
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 08:19:26 pm »
Well, I bought the PCB/Vid Card/HD on Ebay, and they were all supposed to be working... but maybe the board or graphics card is bad?  Is there any way to check this given I can't see anything on the monitor?

Did you ever get this converter to work? I have an image, but it is jumpy and not usable.